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Grendel

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #71
mr_monkey said:
But tbf the quality of opposition was a lot worse back then, the money in the championship now is so so much more than it was when we were last in it
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Was it? Doyle was in £16k a week wasn’t he?
 

mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #72
Grendel said:
Was it? Doyle was in £16k a week wasn’t he?
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Which to most clubs in the championship now is peanuts
 
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steve cooper

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #73
cc84cov said:
We’re on 8 we could be 7 behind after the next games
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Actually looking at the next set of fixtures, if we can beat Birmingham we would still be 21st, but we could be 1 win away from lower mid table.
Most of the teams around us have a tough game coming up next.
2 points separate the 8 clubs above us, if we can beat Brum we should be looking at tagging onto the end of that group.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #74
Blues are a decent side, we will still have to be on our game to get a result. They have 1 less point than Blackburn
 

cc84cov

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #75
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Blues are a decent side, we will still have to be on our game to get a result. They have 1 less point than Blackburn
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Some people think we should just be beating them easily
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #76
covcity4life said:
No i didn't. I am open to it staying low as much as I understand it could be high. Silly to pretend its set in 1st week of november

Judt searching for doom and gloom I feel
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How? I just went with what most people accept as the total you need to get to have a shout. Believe it or not with this being such a shit year with everything else I’m not sat here begging for a defeat every week.
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #77
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How? I just went with what most people accept as the total you need to get to have a shout. Believe it or not with this being such a shit year with everything else I’m not sat here begging for a defeat every week.
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Way too early to look at what totals will be required.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #78
covcity4life said:
Way too early to look at what totals will be required.
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Whatever
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #79
Grendel said:
We had a far better defence and people drooled over our diamond formation
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Defence was better but we still had Clive Platt, David Bell, Nathan Cameron, Connor Thomas and Gary Deegan among many more garbage.

We were down before we'd even started. This season we are performing okay, just the simple mistakes. Surely it's easier to cut out mistakes than it is to beging performing well?
 
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covcity4life

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #80
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Whatever
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Good one
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #81
pusbccfc said:
Defence was better but we still had Clive Platt, David Bell, Nathan Cameron, Connor Thomas and Gary Deegan among many more garbage.

We were down before we'd even started. This season we are performing okay, just the simple mistakes. Surely it's easier to cut out mistakes than it is to beging performing well?
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That doesn’t seem to be the case as the defence have showed little signs of improving over 11 games - it may be the mistakes are the norm rather than something they can cut out.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #82
covcity4life said:
Good one
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Well no it's just you seem determined to close down discussion by calling people negative or miserable
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #83
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well no it's just you seem determined to close down discussion by calling people negative or miserable
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And you just don't like anyone with an opposing view. I come up with counters for yours you come up with whatever
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #84
covcity4life said:
And you just don't like anyone with an opposing view. I come up with counters for yours you come up with whatever
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Not true you go on about how if it stays as it is we'll be OK when the PPG would have us overtaken. You then say we can't assume the PPG will be constant. Make your mind up they're contradictory
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #85
Don’t understand how you can see us run the league favourites close away and come out all doom and gloom.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #86
shmmeee said:
Don’t understand how you can see us run the league favourites close away and come out all doom and gloom.
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I guess because it's been two sucker punches in a week
 
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cc84cov

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #87
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I guess because it's been two sucker punches in a week
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More case of most wrote us off yesterday to play so well in phases and come away with nothing after what happened mid week
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #88
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not true you go on about how if it stays as it is we'll be OK when the PPG would have us overtaken. You then say we can't assume the PPG will be constant. Make your mind up they're contradictory
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Ppg can change for many teams and still have a low overall pt tally to stay up

9 Games in and we are not in relegation zone. Let's see where we are after 18
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #89
mr_monkey said:
Which to most clubs in the championship now is peanuts
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No it isn’t. Millwall have a similar wage bill to ours in the championship last time if you factor in the additional TV revenue which is much higher now
 

mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #90
Grendel said:
No it isn’t. Millwall have a similar wage bill to ours in the championship last time if you factor in the additional TV revenue which is much higher now
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That's why I said most
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #91
cc84cov said:
More case of most wrote us off yesterday to play so well in phases and come away with nothing after what happened mid week
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It was criminal not to win on Tuesday never mind lose it. Yesterday on the balance of play and chances a draw would have been fair but O'Hare's moment of madness in the box late on costs it. Pretty disheartening but the bigger overriding concern is we can't stop conceding silly goals
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #92
mr_monkey said:
That's why I said most
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It isn’t though is it?

Brentford had a fairly modest wage bill when in the top 6, Barnsley, Rotherham and Luton certainly won’t be high either

Out if interest how did we manage to beat Sunderland and Ipswich in the league last season when they have a 6 fold greater wage bill than ours?
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #93
Grendel said:
It isn’t though is it?

Brentford had a fairly modest wage bill when in the top 6, Barnsley, Rotherham and Luton certainly won’t be high either

Out if interest how did we manage to beat Sunderland and Ipswich in the league last season when they have a 6 fold greater wage bill than ours?
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Brentford, really

Wycombe, Luton, Barnsley and Rotherham would be similar to us but I would guess Luton and Barnsley have players earning more than any of our players

And then you have the rest of the clubs with players earning ridiculous amounts of money

The league is so so different to what it was last time we were in it, which is why if we stay up it will be the best season we have had under robins
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #94
mr_monkey said:
Brentford, really
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Brentford haven't finished outside the top half since they entered this division
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #95
mr_monkey said:
Brentford, really
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Brentford had a wage bill Jess than Sunderland and I’d guess less than Ipswich last season.

How did we finish above them?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #96
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Brentford haven't finished outside the top half since they entered this division
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He’s having a nightmare
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #97
Grendel said:
Brentford had a wage bill Jess than Sunderland and I’d guess less than Ipswich last season.

How did we finish above them?
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Honestly you think Brentford had less of a wage bill than Ipswich and Sunderland last season, I'd be shocked if that was the case
 

cc84cov

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #98
mr_monkey said:
Honestly you think Brentford had less of a wage bill than Ipswich and Sunderland last season, I'd be shocked if that was the case
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Find out before posting like you knew then maybe would of been an idea ?
 

mr_monkey

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #99
cc84cov said:
Find out before posting like you knew then maybe would of been an idea ?
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Just using logic seeing that Brentford did so well, have been in the league for a while and have multi million pound players in their squad

Anyway I thought you didnt speak to "people like me"
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #100
mr_monkey said:
Just using logic seeing that Brentford did so well, have been in the league for a while and have multi million pound players in their squad

Anyway I thought you didnt speak to "people like me"
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Haha I know I just couldn’t resist that one
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #101
Adge said:
Yes the “guidelines” are from the armpit down constitutes hand ball.
In real time 99% of referees will give that penalty yesterday because of the arms in the air.
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Yeah, looked nailed on. Just wasn't sure on the new rule. Thanks.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #102
mr_monkey said:
Just using logic seeing that Brentford did so well, have been in the league for a while and have multi million pound players in their squad

Anyway I thought you didnt speak to "people like me"
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Brentford's wage bill last season was £17m, Sunderland's was £12.5m going down to £10m if you take out people being paid who aren't at the club.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #103
mr_monkey said:
Just using logic seeing that Brentford did so well, have been in the league for a while and have multi million pound players in their squad

Anyway I thought you didnt speak to "people like me"
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #104
Grendel said:
He’s having a nightmare
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Stoke's was a monstrous £94 million-ouch
 

mr_monkey

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  • Nov 8, 2020
  • #105
Grendel said:
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Fair play, I stand corrected on them, still think the division is more insane than when we were in it before which was my point
 
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