Judicial review thread - day 2 (3 Viewers)

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WiganSkyBlue

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Rob S said:
Sisu QC "ACL had been saddled with an unaffordable loan so ACL saddled the club with an unaffordable rent"
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Wasn't the rent set at a time before SISU? Should have done due diligence diligently, I think.
 
torchomatic

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Maybe so, but it the rent had to be pegged high in the first place because of the loan.

WiganSkyBlue said:
Wasn't the rent set at a time before SISU? Should have done due diligence diligently, I think.
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Rob S

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First interruption from the judge. CCC QC a lot louder and sounds more like a QC should. Which means nothing to the result of course...
 
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Coun QC "Sisu may believe they are God's gift to Coventry. Others are entitled to be sceptical."
 
Rob S

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CCC QC refers to Sisu rent & licence fee strike creating situation in which ACL was under v. real threat.

Council took action to divert that threat.
 
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Simon Gilbert@TheSimonGilbert · 32s Coun QC says Sisu engineered situation where ACL and council investment was at risk through club's rent strike.
 
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martcov

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ladespiser said:
Sisu QC says council recognised the state aid risk but thought it was OK to become a bank to ACL. This was “ridiculous,” he says.

thats the winner line from SISU and the judge cant disagree with that.
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SISU QC may say these things, but it doesn't mean it is true. Don't forget the judge will hear both sides and come to his own conclusion which may well mean disagreeing with SISU and their lawyer. I think you have an agenda and are bending the facts to push your agenda.
 
shmmeee

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martcov said:
SISU QC may say these things, but it doesn't mean it is true. Don't forget the judge will hear both sides and come to his own conclusion which may well mean disagreeing with SISU and their lawyer. I think you have an agenda and are bending the facts to push your agenda.
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Les Reid confirmed.
 
Rob S

Rob S

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Judge questioning which CCFC company was liable to ACL. CCC QC seems unsure. Lots of muttering at the back now. CCC QC gave wrong info. Sisu QC being questioned and giving correct info.

Oops for CCC QC. First mistake!
 
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Council QC says it acted within its “wide parameters of discretion” with regard to state aid.
One of ACL’s income streams was its rent and licence fees “which Sisu bought into with eyes wide open.”
Sisu created a situation in which ACL and the council’s interest in ACL were under threat
 
torchomatic

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fernandopartridge

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martcov said:
SISU QC may say these things, but it doesn't mean it is true. Don't forget the judge will hear both sides and come to his own conclusion which may well mean disagreeing with SISU and their lawyer. I think you have an agenda and are bending the facts to push your agenda.
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Where? Was that not a quote from Court then?
 
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Council QC says there are two brief answers to Sisu’s case. Council was not obliged to do a deal with Sisu. Council did explore deal with Sisu but it never came off.
In January 2013 council had to act.
 
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Simon Gilbert@TheSimonGilbert · 4m Coun QC also blames Sisu for breakdown of deal for part of ACL in 2012 for failing to meet conditions of heads of terms agreement
 
fernandopartridge

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Sub said:
Council QC says there are two brief answers to Sisu’s case. Council was not obliged to do a deal with Sisu. Council did explore deal with Sisu but it never came off.
In January 2013 council had to act.
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Why did it have to act if there was an offer on the table from YB. That is the question.
 
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Council QC points out ACL has kept up to date with the loan for the last 18 months.
 
AFCCOVENTRY

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@TheSimonGilbert: Coun QC says there was no conflict with directors of ACL also working for council as officers were used to provide advise.
 
AFCCOVENTRY

AFCCOVENTRY

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@TheSimonGilbert: Club QC accuses Sisu of ignoring fact ACL and charity are not the council and lumping everyone's views in together.
 
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