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Joy Seppala meeting at Ryton Report (10 Viewers)

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  • Start date Sep 25, 2013
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ccfcway

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #36
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #37
italiahorse said:
To be honest they should have draft stadium plans already for discussion. A vision for the fans ?

Are they waiting to get the land and then starting the design?

They should already at least know the capacity and have costings in place. The fact that none of these are mentioned leads me to take an educated guess that they are bullshitting us.
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not to mention they claim to be in discussion with councils despite factual evidence to contrary.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #38
skybluetony176 said:
not to mention they claim to be in discussion with councils despite factual evidence to contrary.
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That was formal discussions.

They can always have informal chats.
 
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Godiva

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #39
Deleted member 5849 said:
if the league are happy for us to be 3-5 years in Northampton, yet urge all sides to talk to get us back sooner, am sure they'd jump at a 3-5 year deal agreed in Coventry instead!
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Maybe so - they may utilize their 'discretion' option.

According to KingHarvest sisu don't rule out a return, but would they go back on short rental agreement when this would ease the pressure on CCc and ACL? I don't think so ... at least I wouldn't.
If they go back it will be as owners of either the freehold or ACL. Never as a tenant.
 

ccfcway

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #40
Deleted member 5849 said:
Given Rotherham moved out after a dispute with their landlords, and moved back relatively quickly to a new ground, I'd say they're the ideal club to take advice from!

It's a lot more reassuring they take advice from them, than Sam Hammam and Pete Winkelman!
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i can see what your saying, but every bone in my body makes me sad that CCFC are in any way, shape or form taking advise from a club who have spent pretty much their entire history in this league..

No offence to them what so ever....
 

hill83

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #41
ccfcway said:
i can see what your saying, but every bone in my body makes me sad that CCFC are in any way, shape or form taking advise from a club who have spent pretty much their entire history in this league..

No offence to them what so ever....
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I agree with you in a way, but taking advice from someone in a less well off position than yourself doesn't necessarily mean you aspire to be exactly like them.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #42
hill83 said:
I agree with you in a way, but taking advice from someone in a less well off position than yourself doesn't necessarily mean you aspire to be exactly like them.
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And given the move has re-energised them, and seen them on an upward trajectory...
 
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RFC

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #43
Nothing JS has 'reportedly' said differs that much from what has previously been said by TF at Forums and in the media.
Having spoken to TF on several occasions at Sixfields, he has confirmed 4 potential sites (3 he likes & 1 he doesn't). However he isn't going to name them whilst discussions and negotiations are taking place, is he??????????
PUSB!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #44
Ity's not about naming the sites though, you don't even have to do that to show you're serious.

Although if the new ground was the plan all along, you'd hope the sites could be named as they'd have been bought by now!

So, OK, it's plan L after the Ricoh (which they hoped to sort out) goes off limits, fair enough. I know it's not concrete, but you couldn't move for stuff about Arena 2000 when we were planning it... before we'd bought *that* land, too.

So you'd hope in a realisation that this was always going to be controversial, you'd have more information about where we were going with this, than vague references to 'modular'.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #45
So we'll get the one that he doesn't like and he can say that was his first choice usual skulduggery so they what to be better at PR ?

sorry could have fooled me nothing new.




RFC said:
Nothing JS has 'reportedly' said differs that much from what has previously been said by TF at Forums and in the media.
Having spoken to TF on several occasions at Sixfields, he has confirmed 4 potential sites (3 he likes & 1 he doesn't). However he isn't going to name them whilst discussions and negotiations are taking place, is he??????????
PUSB!
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #46
Deleted member 5849 said:
Given Rotherham moved out after a dispute with their landlords, and moved back relatively quickly to a new ground, I'd say they're the ideal club to take advice from!

It's a lot more reassuring they take advice from them, than Sam Hammam and Pete Winkelman!
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Agreed and look at Rotherham now, promoted in their first season in their new ground and now 5th in the third tier.

If the advice is worth taking in such a way that it will aid us which in this case I can understand it, we should take it with both hands.

Without disrespecting Rotherham if it could work similarly for us then potential is there for us.
 
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valiant15

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #47
I can't believe what im reading here. We should aim to be like Rotherham? I wouldn't mind if our new ground is like Shrewsburys? Is this a wind up?

Sisu really have crushed this clubs fans ambitions.
 
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Grappa

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #48
Or maybe the fans have crushed Sisu's ambitions.
 

hill83

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #49
valiant15 said:
I can't believe what im reading here. We should aim to be like Rotherham? I wouldn't mind if our new ground is like Shrewsburys? Is this a wind up?

Sisu really have crushed this clubs fans ambitions.
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So you've clearly just windmilled in without reading other people's comments as usual. Good work.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #50
Rev,

If they built a stadium with a 10,000 capacity stadium it shows no vision regarding the medium term.

I agree as most will that the sooner we are back in Coventry in a stadium that we can benefit from the better, I can't see this being the Ricoh however.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #51
valiant15 said:
I can't believe what im reading here. We should aim to be like Rotherham? I wouldn't mind if our new ground is like Shrewsburys? Is this a wind up?

Sisu really have crushed this clubs fans ambitions.
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Explain to me then why not having the same affect Rotherham have had by building a new Rotherham United owned ground is not matching anyone's ambitions, promotions, etc?
 
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valiant15

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #52
Grappa said:
Or maybe the fans have crushed Sisu's ambitions.
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Zzzzzzz.
 
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ecky

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #53
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is this our joy?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #54
Grappa said:
Or maybe the fans have crushed Sisu's ambitions.
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well it couldn't be shitsu's fault could it? i mean they cant blame ACL/CCC anymore as they have cut all ties so perhaps it is time to turn on the fans.

that's if you don't count moving the club 34miles away from its home as turning on the fans
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #55
valiant15 said:
I can't believe what im reading here. We should aim to be like Rotherham? I wouldn't mind if our new ground is like Shrewsburys? Is this a wind up?

Sisu really have crushed this clubs fans ambitions.
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100% agreed. Look at Rotherham, they got promoted in their 1st season in their new ground and are on the up.

Well we didnt. We had a home, didnt get promoted but were still in Championship, then SISU came along. We are now in League One, deducted 10 points at the start of the season and now taking advise from a team who "successfully" got promoted from League Two..

Really pleased for Rotherham..

But, to quote the great John Sillett the day after the cup win in 1987 "NOW FOR THE LEAGUE". I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about League 2. We are in this almighty mess due to SISU. We dont even play in COVENTRY any more..

Actions speak louder than words !!
 
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valiant15

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #56
hill83 said:
So you've clearly just windmilled in without reading other people's comments as usual. Good work.
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Ive read the thread quickly cos im at work. I don't see a problem with my comments.
 

italiahorse

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #57
valiant15 said:
I can't believe what im reading here. We should aim to be like Rotherham? I wouldn't mind if our new ground is like Shrewsburys? Is this a wind up?

Sisu really have crushed this clubs fans ambitions.
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If only the Ricoh was as good as these grounds FFS.

I remember the great club that was CCFC.

I don't care who owns the stadium and I don't care who the owners are, I just want to support my team. None of these things REALLY matter to us fans and with a successful team it doesn't matter to the owners either.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #58
ccfcway said:
100% agreed. Look at Rotherham, they got promoted in their 1st season in their new ground and are on the up.

Well we didnt. We had a home, didnt get promoted but were still in Championship, then SISU came along. We are now in League One, deducted 10 points at the start of the season and now taking advise from a team who "successfully" got promoted from League Two..

Really pleased for Rotherham..

But, to quote the great John Sillett the day after the cup win in 1987 "NOW FOR THE LEAGUE". I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about League 2
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We didn't have a home, we never owned our home, it wasn't ours, we were just tenants..

Different in comparison to Rotherham and their NY Stadium.
 
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ecky

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #59
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #60
Grappa said:
Or maybe the fans have crushed Sisu's ambitions.
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I'd love to think that that had been posted with a sense of irony.

However..............
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #61
valiant15 said:
Ive read the thread quickly cos im at work. I don't see a problem with my comments.
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The point being, it doesn't really matter who they take advice off about the ground. Be it Rotherham or Barcelona. If it happens, which I doubt, we'll still be Coventry City and it will be us cunts sat in it. I could take advice off a street sweeper, doesn't mean it's my intention to be one.
 

ccfcway

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #62
RoboCCFC90 said:
We didn't have a home, we never owned our home, it wasn't ours, we were just tenants..

Different in comparison to Rotherham and their NY Stadium.
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We wont own the new "home"
 
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Grappa

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #63
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
I'd love to think that that had been posted with a sense of irony.

However..............
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Or it could be read as praise for the NOPM'ers.

It works on many levels.

I'm the GOAT.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #64
RoboCCFC90 said:
We didn't have a home, we never owned our home, it wasn't ours, we were just tenants..

Different in comparison to Rotherham and their NY Stadium.
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How many more times we will not own the new ground, we will rent it just like the Ricoh. We will get the revenues from the pies and mars bars they sell bi-weekly and the parking which I mus'nt forget
Unless I've been unconscious for the last few months and Fisher has come out and said the club will own it, but i'm pretty sure I would have noticed that
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #65
ccfcway said:
We wont own the new "home"
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Still going with this conspiracy theory eh?

I suppose you have proof though that this will be the case?
 
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DaleM

New Member
  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #66
Reading some of the comments in this thread , I feel after years of achieving fuck all Cov fans are now so downtrodden and unambitious that this utter bollocks from the owners representative ( for that is all she is) is being taken and debated as gospel. Wake up FFS we have heard the same shit of Fisher. They are toeing the company line , spouting the same shit to try to increase crowds at Sixfields. Don't fall for it . We have been here before with the "we want to communicate with the fans" bollocks.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #67
The Reverend Skyblue said:
How many more times we will not own the new ground, we will rent it just like the Ricoh. We will get the revenues from the pies and mars bars they sell bi-weekly and the parking which I mus'nt forget
Unless I've been unconscious for the last few months and Fisher has come out and said the club will own it, but i'm pretty sure I would have noticed that
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I suppose seems as you and many others believe this to be truth, there will be a quote or more evidence to point me to believing this information rather than your assumption?
 

italiahorse

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  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #68
RoboCCFC90 said:
We didn't have a home, we never owned our home, it wasn't ours, we were just tenants..

Different in comparison to Rotherham and their NY Stadium.
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We will always be tenants wherever we are.
Owning a tin pot stadium or renting a world class stadium makes no difference to the fans. It's the perception on the day of the match as you watch your team perform in THE stadium that has your badge on it.
Not really interested if we are paying a mortgage or a lease.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #69
RoboCCFC90 said:
We didn't have a home, we never owned our home, it wasn't ours, we were just tenants..

Different in comparison to Rotherham and their NY Stadium.
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cough cough bullshit.

i grew up in a council house and it was always our home and for my mum still is.
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 25, 2013
  • #70
italiahorse said:
We will always be tenants wherever we are.
Owning a tin pot stadium or renting a world class stadium makes no difference to the fans. It's the perception on the day of the match as you watch your team perform on THE stadium that has your badge on it.
Not really interested if we are paying a mortgage or a lease.
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I agree that playing in Coventry for fans of this club to be able to watch is most important, however for the third time in 5 minutes another posters believes we will be charged a rental fee even if we build a new stadia. So my question is do you have any proof to suggest this will be the case?
 
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