Jodi Jones ACL (1 Viewer)

Calista · Dec 15, 2018

Jodi is easily my favourite player in the current squad, and it’s horrible that this injury has recurred. But it’s clear that he is now in absolutely the best hands.

Hard though it is on him, he may need the patience to not even think too much about next season, and set his stall out to rehabilitate very gradually, looking to come back 100% for the start of the season in August 2020. You’re still young Jodi, keep your belief!

oucho · Dec 15, 2018

speedie87 said:
I still haven’t got over lee hurst doing his knee in the 90’s he was going to be a top player.

Same can be said for the injury prone David Hirst. Fergie nearly signed him rather than Cantona but pulled out due to concerns over Hirst's fitness. How different football might have been if that decision had gone the other way.

better days · Dec 15, 2018

Calista said:
Jodi is easily my favourite player in the current squad, and it’s horrible that this injury has recurred. But it’s clear that he is now in absolutely the best hands.

Hard though it is on him, he may need the patience to not even think too much about next season, and set his stall out to rehabilitate very gradually, looking to come back 100% for the start of the season in August 2020. You’re still young Jodi, keep your belief!

He was very down about it when it was first diagnosed as a recurrence especially as the initial assessment indicated it might be a cartilage
However once he got a second opinion and it was decided that Andy Williams would do the op he became more positive
If anyone can recover from this setback it's JJ

higgs · Dec 15, 2018

Has it anything to do with the pitch at the Ricoh since wasps did it is half grass half artificial? Just throwing it out there were our 4 acl injuries picked up at the Ricoh?

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steve82 · Dec 15, 2018

higgs said:
Has it anything to do with the pitch at the Ricoh since wasps did it is half grass half artificial? Just throwing it out there were our 4 acl injuries picked up at the Ricoh?

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Joe Gomez did his ACL while playing for England U21’s

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skyblueelephant76 · Dec 15, 2018

higgs said:
Has it anything to do with the pitch at the Ricoh since wasps did it is half grass half artificial? Just throwing it out there were our 4 acl injuries picked up at the Ricoh?

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2 were at home, two away - nothing to do with the pitch.

higgs · Dec 15, 2018

skyblueelephant76 said:
2 were at home, two away - nothing to do with the pitch.

Fair enough

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steve82 · Dec 18, 2018

Magwitch said:
He will get over this, the op isn’t the problem it’s the recouperation. I would hope we extend his contract a year so he’s not racing against time for his recovery, realistically I think he will be out for more than a year and perhaps won’t be fully ready until season 20/21. As for comparing with Callum Wilson I’m certain his second ACL was the other knee.

On what basis would you justify offering him extended terms other than sentiment and a element of loyalty? If you did would it be on reduced terms or the same terms as he’s on given he was signed while we was in L1.

It’s gonna be another 12 months till he’s even considered for the 1st team so solutions down each wing has to be found before we even think about a JJ come back. Can we afford to carry him beyond his current deal and to what effect on the 1st team recruitment world it be.

Personally if your looking to kick on and be in contention to get promotion be it this year or more to the point next year you need a players who’s doing it now in L1 or L2 to arrive in the summer. All of this pushes JJ down the order likely sat on a good contract that’s needed as we’ve carried enough passengers due to bad luck with injuries.

It could easily be another 18 months or longer before he’s back up to anything near the L2 form.

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Deleted member 5849 · Dec 18, 2018

steve82 said:
On what basis would you justify offering him extended terms other than sentiment and a element of loyalty? If you did would it be on reduced terms or the same terms as he’s on given he was signed while we was in L1.

It’s gonna be another 12 months till he’s even considered for the 1st team so solutions down each wing has to be found before we even think about a JJ come back. Can we afford to carry him beyond his current deal and to what effect on the 1st team recruitment world it be.

Personally if your looking to kick on and be in contention to get promotion be it this year or more to the point next year you need a players who’s doing it now in L1 or L2 to arrive in the summer. All of this pushes JJ down the order likely sat on a good contract that’s needed as we’ve carried enough passengers due to bad luck with injuries.

It could easily be another 18 months or longer before he’s back up to anything near the L2 form.

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You give him a contract because it's the right thing to do.

It also shows we're a club who looks after our players, improving team spirit and encouraging others to join us.

Loyalty cuts two ways.

higgs · Dec 18, 2018

I'd only offer him a pay as you play deal now you couldn't justify giving him a contract extension with the type of injury he has. There is no loyalty in football these days

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steve82 · Dec 18, 2018

Deleted member 5849 said:
You give him a contract because it's the right thing to do.

It also shows we're a club who looks after our players, improving team spirit and encouraging others to join us.

Loyalty cuts two ways.

I agree partly and share your personal values but from a football club point of view the risks in entering into any possible deal before the last 3 months of his current deal ending are huge.

Massive question marks over....
Are you getting the same player again?
Can he perform in L1 given he’s yet to do it (if we’re still in L1)
With...
Who we got in the squad for the positions we need to cover now he’d play in, do we need to gamble with JJ

Loyalty in football is minimal now, it’s a business that managers are given little sentiment over the playing staff at the disposal and the question needs to be is it best for business, manager at the time and the budget to chance our arm on him beyond his current deal. We’re at a level we need to utilise all available resources to obtain promotion.

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steve82 · Dec 18, 2018

The real question is how would many feel on here if it’s was announced we’re signing a winger who has only previously shown great promise and ability at L2, but has had 2 years out from 2 ACL injuries?

The reception would be worse than Bakayoko’s.
Meltdown is a understatement

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Grendel · Dec 18, 2018

Zlobp

steve82 said:
The real question is how would many feel on here if it’s was announced we’re signing a winger who has only previously shown great promise and ability at L2, but has had 2 years out from 2 ACL injuries?

The reception would be worse than Bakayoko’s.
Meltdown is a understatement

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We’ve constantly signed players with very lengthy spells out with injury - especially recently

better days · Dec 18, 2018

It's straight-forward
If Jones comes back at 12 months he has 6 months to earn a new deal either here or elsewhere
His current deal expires in June 2020
It was the same deal he came on as an 18 year old and and is partly based on appearances I believe

Greggs · Dec 18, 2018

higgs said:
Has it anything to do with the pitch at the Ricoh since wasps did it is half grass half artificial? Just throwing it out there were our 4 acl injuries picked up at the Ricoh?

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Totally agree. Never happens in training at Ryton! Can't be blamed on intensity either, as the injury never really occurs through impact!

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 18, 2018

Grendel said:
Zlobp

Yes?

Greggs · Dec 18, 2018

skyblueelephant76 said:
2 were at home, two away - nothing to do with the pitch.

Gomez, Stokes, Andreu and Jones. All at the Ricoh on an artificial pitch!

Nick · Dec 18, 2018

Greggs said:
Gomez, Stokes, Andreu and Jones. All at the Ricoh on an artificial pitch!

As in Chris Stokes?

He did it at Blackpool didn't he, same as Biamou?

Greggs · Dec 18, 2018

Nick said:
As in Chris Stokes?

He did it at Blackpool didn't he, same as Biamou?

I thought Stokes did his at the Ricoh? My mistake, i'll get back in my hole.

Nick · Dec 18, 2018

Greggs said:
I thought Stokes did his at the Ricoh? My mistake, i'll get back in my hole.

Nah he did his knee at Blackpool, it was like a beach that day on that pitch.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 18, 2018

Grendel said:
Zlobp

At last he's talking sense

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