italiahorse
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Post it again and I'll take my bullshit filter off.
The subject may be okay but it also picks up on user names.
Why do you even ask the question? I've worked on tours that involved hiring the Ricoh, I've posted that information and now you're in denial!
Post it again and I'll take my bullshit filter off.
The subject may be okay but it also picks up on user names.
You're the one blindly saying we should sign up with Wasps for decades to come no matter how bad the deal is and how little chance it gives us of progressing past our current level.
I want what is best for the club. I am not letting personal interests get in the way when saying it is the Ricoh or nothing.
If you trust Sisu you are a bigger fool than I think you are.
If you want to move without seeing any detail then it is confirmed.
http://www.ricoharena.com/documents/263/original/Ricoh-Arena-Brochure.pdf
Other than the picture of the empty bowl, not a hint of our existence in the Ricoh brochure.
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The Ricoh Arena is home to Aviva PremiershipRugby team Wasps and Coventry City FootballClub.
I need to see evidence before I see a better option than the ricoh.
I want to see evidence that we have tried to work with Wasps and failed.
In fdairness, it does say:
I don't even get mad at italias views anymore, wasn't he was on of the biggest pro sisu posters a while back?
No one is saying move without seeing any detail, they are saying don't discount the possibility that a new stadium offers a better future and that it should be fully investigated.
You're the one blindly saying we should sign up with Wasps for decades to come no matter how bad the deal is and how little chance it gives us of progressing past our current level.
In addition Sisu don't actually want to place the stadium in Coventry because they don't want Coventry to benefit.
Don't think its about trusting SISU, we all know SISU will only do stuff that further there own agenda.
What would SISU benefit from by charging the club an extortionate rent and keeping all revenues to themselves? It would just mean we go further down the pyramid and the club lose more money and SISU have to pump in more money to the club, it would make much more sense to use the revenues from the stadium to help us compete in the championship and then sell the club as a top half championship club who own there stadium.
All pointless discussion anyway as they don't look capable of producing a stadium
CCC have clearly stated there is no viable location within the city boundary for a new stadium.
But if RBC can find some green belt why can't Coventry ?
Met a lot of CCFC fans at Wasps yesterday that are sick of the matchday experience and rightly or wrongly have joined the wasps bandwagon.
Wasps moving to Saturday will mean I probably won't go to Wasps as I also go to most away matches.
A lot of people will have to make that decision.
There is already a city plan in place that covers Coventry, Cllr Maton who is responsible for planning, confirmed to the CT that there was no site in the city that could potentially be used for a new stadium.
RBC are currently working on their city plan, there is an opportunity for a new stadium to be included as part of that plan hence the September deadline. I suspect that any stadium in Rugby would likely be somewhere like Ansty or Broadstreet.
And that my ol'mucka is exactly what wasps want and why we'll be lucky to get any good long term deal off them.
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The sooner we get away from there Nd build our own stadium the better. still can't believe that some are so desperate to defend and play it down.
The next city plan for Coventry is due to be 2031. Even moving relatively quickly we'd be looking at 2035 onwards for a new ground. Personally with those time scales I don't think it's something we need to worry about just yet and makes sense to look at other options that give a more acceptable timescale.
I think it's all about ticking over in L1 at break even, waiting until Wasps fail.
Trouble is only the die hard are attending because the majority have moved on.
Met a lot of CCFC fans at Wasps yesterday that are sick of the matchday experience and rightly or wrongly have joined the wasps bandwagon.
At least I attend both at the moment and can say I will be a CCFC season ticket holder for next season.
Wasps moving to Saturday will mean I probably won't go to Wasps as I also go to most away matches.
A lot of people will have to make that decision.
It's more to do with TV incomes than Coventry City fans I believe.
Love it how instantly you suggest it effects any long term deal.
More unknown reasoning from the suicidal six.
Do you think it's clever to belittle suicide the biggest killer in men aged 25-50?
If it was all down to TV revenues (which are pretty much agreed for the next few years) why the need to move? Why the need to gift thousands of tickets trying to build a fan base if having a fanbase doesn't matter?
On the current deal what do wasps make from us?
£100k rent
circa £26k F&B profit (Ave spend £2.90 per person per game based on 11/12)
Parking? 300-400 cars £17.2k - £23k (less vat and costs to administer/security)
So around £150k per annum,
Or gaining 2-3k fans. Mid price ST is £350
So £700k -£1m (less vat) for ST's
Let's say 100 come by car - £7k less vat and admin/security costs
We know there's a culture of hanging around and spending more on F&B's, as they can drink all the way through. Let's say average spend is x3 football (£8.70). Those 2-3k is worth £22.5-£33.7k.
Then let's say half bought a programme each - £42-63k
And 1/4 buy a shirt - £20- 30k.
So us renting is worth £150k pa
Them poaching 2-3k fans is worth around c£850-£1.3m
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Well said sirJimmy Hill would of approved of franchising, he was motivated by the £. Got rid of minimum wage, commercialised CCFC, jumped ship for a better contract at the BBC, came back as a director, chased the dollar in America, got rid of terracing, sold Gary Thompson and others undermining Dave Sextons promising team.
I would rather eat a jar of marmite with a spoon. He was great until he sold out to the BBC, thank god Sky were not around to fund his ego.
It's not Wasps poaching. It's Sisu making the club collateral damage in their hostile play for the Ricoh.
Underfunding the team due to the associated move to Northampton.
Resulting in fans match day experience being poor to non existent.
Wasps match day experience is all about the fans. Try it and perhaps I might value your opinion.
I am sure loads of people are bothered about if you value their opinion. At least most opinions on here aren't biased in some way so they can be judged as neutral whichever way this may be on where we play.
As for being all about the fans, if CCFC move we will see if you think moving teams for good is all about the fans and what you think then. It will be another U Turn no doubt. Like a dog chasing it's tail going round and round, and round, and round again.
the ironyThey seem bothered about my opinion otherwise they wouldn't respond to it.
All about the fans relates to the match day experience not moving the team.
Nice to do both but if CCFC move to Rugby I'll just settle for Wasps.
the irony
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Then you and them are a fucking disgrace. The post earlier about a London rugby club defacing Highfield Rd was excellent; there is no passion amongst our support and the fact that some even welcome Wasps is disgusting. Sadly we will have the club that fans like you deserve. A tin pot club going nowhere. In fact owners like sisu suit your apathetic lot perfectly.
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