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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #421
SkyblueBazza said:
So now you don't want leave with a deal as an option? You change your mind as quick as Jeremy Corbyn on this don't you?
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I never said I did?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #422
SkyblueBazza said:
Maybe, but remember experts once said the earth is flat, the sun went around the earth, man could not fly...the list is endless

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Imagine if Corbyn wanted to build a £15 billion bridge to Gerry Adams’ front door
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #423
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It's not exactly the same is it.

Also when they say it can't be built they're often talking more in economic viability than technical possibility. It may be technical issues due to geology or wind during storms or something (I have no idea) Technically they could build a bridge between London and Paris - doesn't mean it makes sense to do it. Theoretically a mile high skyscraper is possible.

If you look at where Stranraer is in relation to NI t would seem an odd starting point for a bridge. For ferries it makes sense because it's in a bay and thus a bit more protected.

I wonder if his next plan to appease the DUP will be a bridge from Blackpool or Barrow-in-Furness to Belfast using the IoM as a support pillar.
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Boris first muted this idea about 18months ago and it was widely laughed at. Technically things would have to happen that have never happened before as the Irish Sea is unusually deep for a sea of its width and there’s busy shipping lanes so the two things combined means that they’d have to build the biggest pylons ever constructed and by some margin. It’s pretty unanimous that without a new technology building materiel that would have to be invented specifically for this project it isn’t going to happen and that’s if it’s at all possible. Then there’s issues like the weather. I’ve crossed by ferry enough times from Holyhead, Liverpool and Stranraer to Dublin, Belfast, Larne and the IOM for that matter to know that it’s a rough old sea at the best of times and the best of times are far outweighed by the worst of times. Then there’s the issue that the sea between Scotland and Northern Ireland has been a dump for scrap ammunition’s for decades.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #424
skybluetony176 said:
Boris first muted this idea about 18months ago and it was widely laughed at. Technically things would have to happen that have never happened before as the Irish Sea is unusually deep for a sea of its width and there’s busy shipping lanes so the two things combined means that they’d have to build the biggest pylons ever constructed and by some margin. It’s pretty unanimous that without a new technology building materiel that would have to be invented specifically for this project it isn’t going to happen and that’s if it’s at all possible. Then there’s issues like the weather. I’ve crossed by ferry enough times from Holyhead, Liverpool and Stranraer to Dublin, Belfast, Larne and the IOM for that matter to know that it’s a rough old sea at the best of times and the best of times are far outweighed by the worst of times. Then there’s the issue that the sea between Scotland and Northern Ireland has been a dump for scrap ammunition’s for decades.
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Come on stop being negative
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #425
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Come on stop being negative
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Sorry. Positive thinking will invent it.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #426
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I never said I did?
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Well you have suddenly taken it off or omitted it from your ballot slip options

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #427
skybluetony176 said:
We live in an era where the longest bridges, tallest bridges, deepest tunnels, longest tunnels, tallest buildings are being built. The suggestion that it can’t be built is in an era where construction technology has been pushed to the absolute limits. The people saying this are experts in their field not members of flat earth society using the tensile strength of wood to form an opinion on wether it’s possible or not.
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And all the limiting factors were there for the channel tunnel, & man on the moon, & the light bulb, & world-wide web...man is a determined beast when he dreams of something. Someone from that field will be determined to prove the experts wrong!

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #428
SkyblueBazza said:
Well you have suddenly taken it off or omitted it from your ballot slip options

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It wasn’t on there to begin with? Bizarre
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #429
SkyblueBazza said:
And all the limiting factors were there for the channel tunnel, & man on the moon, & the light bulb, & world-wide web...man is a determined beast when he dreams of something. Someone from that field will be determined to prove the experts wrong!

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One limiting factor wasn’t. People saying it could be done.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #430
SkyblueBazza said:
And all the limiting factors were there for the channel tunnel, & man on the moon, & the light bulb, & world-wide web...man is a determined beast when he dreams of something. Someone from that field will be determined to prove the experts wrong!

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Cure for cancer, colonies on Mars, Star Trek style transportation devices...
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #431
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It wasn’t on there to begin with? Bizarre
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You are rather

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Grendel

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #432
Deleted member 5849 said:
Cure for cancer, colonies on Mars, Star Trek style transportation devices...
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Cure for poverty. Make a minimum wage £10 and then stealth tax the he’ll out of them to make them even poorer
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #433
skybluetony176 said:
One limiting factor wasn’t. People saying it could be done.
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And on another thread you said "as an adult"! Well as an adult, you wouldn't offer "People saying it could be done" as a limiting factor - because it is an empowering factor...it inspires people to find a way.

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #434
Deleted member 5849 said:
Cure for cancer, colonies on Mars, Star Trek style transportation devices...
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Yes...loads of proportional money, time &/or effort being spent on all of those

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #435
SkyblueBazza said:
You are rather

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Where have I argued for a 3 way referendum?
 

Astute

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #436
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Where have I argued for a 3 way referendum?
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In or out?

Went well last time didn't it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #437
Astute said:
In or out?

Went well last time didn't it.
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No Deal v Revoke with legally binding outcome. Have argued that way for months
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #438
SkyblueBazza said:
Yes...loads of proportional money, time &/or effort being spent on all of those

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And you woul;dn't offer any of them as a solution by October 31st
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #439
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No Deal v Revoke with legally binding outcome. Have argued that way for months
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A legally binding outcome - lol
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #440
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No Deal v Revoke with legally binding outcome. Have argued that way for months
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So you have answered all your own questions.

No deal or revoke. No option to leave with a deal there is there?

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #441
SkyblueBazza said:
So you have answered all your own questions.

No deal or revoke. No option to leave with a deal there is there?

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Genuinely, what are you on about?
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #442
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Genuinely, what are you on about?
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Are you in favour of leaving the EU?

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #443
SkyblueBazza said:
Are you in favour of leaving the EU?

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...no

I don't know when I last called for a 3 way vote. You seem to think otherwise but can't show where. Pretty confused if you don't mind me saying
 

Astute

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #444
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No Deal v Revoke with legally binding outcome. Have argued that way for months
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So you wouldn't want a deal?

Did I really read that right? You would be happy for us to be legally bound to leave without a deal?
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #445
Brighton Sky Blue said:
...no

I don't know when I last called for a 3 way vote. You seem to think otherwise but can't show where. Pretty confused if you don't mind me saying
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So you want to stay in the EU & put the vote to the people in a 2 option referendum...to revoke article 50 or leave without a deal?

Yep, you are pretty confused about what you want aren't you?

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Ian1779

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #446
Not really. If anything he is trying to be pragmatic about breaking the impasse.

If there was a 3 way vote, Leavers would be up in arms that the leave vote could be split, allowing remain to come through comfortably.

And I although I don’t agree with the 2 options he has proposed - he is right that there are so many entrenched positions now. A lot of leavers won’t accept any deal other than no-deal because it’s not ‘Brexity’ enough - and a lot of remainers only want another vote because they expect remain to win and then we scrap Brexit.

If anything the people in the middle that want some kind of soft/orderly exit are now in the minority... certainly the vocal minority at least.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #447
Astute said:
So you wouldn't want a deal?

Did I really read that right? You would be happy for us to be legally bound to leave without a deal?
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Fair is fair
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #448
SkyblueBazza said:
So you want to stay in the EU & put the vote to the people in a 2 option referendum...to revoke article 50 or leave without a deal?

Yep, you are pretty confused about what you want aren't you?

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What on Earth are you on about?
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #449
Astute said:
So you wouldn't want a deal?

Did I really read that right? You would be happy for us to be legally bound to leave without a deal?
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He assumes the vote would be to stay

The legally binding aspect is ridiculous
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #450
Ian1779 said:
Not really. If anything he is trying to be pragmatic about breaking the impasse.

If there was a 3 way vote, Leavers would be up in arms that the leave vote could be split, allowing remain to come through comfortably.

And I although I don’t agree with the 2 options he has proposed - he is right that there are so many entrenched positions now. A lot of leavers won’t accept any deal other than no-deal because it’s not ‘Brexity’ enough - and a lot of remainers only want another vote because they expect remain to win and then we scrap Brexit.

If anything the people in the middle that want some kind of soft/orderly exit are now in the minority... certainly the vocal minority at least.
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It’s not happening anyway

Swinson is now like a lower league football manager signing every free agent going

Two more signings last week taking the squad to 18

They have stated it’s revoke and ignore any referendum result

Game over
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #451
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No Deal v Revoke with legally binding outcome. Have argued that way for months
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Rentagob Swansong has already let it slip that the Literal Undemocrats would not respect another leave verdict in a 2nd referendum.

It’s not difficult to see why leavers don’t trust your side.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #452
SIR ERNIE said:
Rentagob Swansong has already let it slip that the Literal Undemocrats would not respect another leave verdict in a 2nd referendum.

It’s not difficult to see why leavers don’t trust your side.
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That's not quite right, is it. She's saying she'll stand in an election on a platform of revoking Article 50 without going to a referendum.

Given you righties spend your time running scared of a second referendum and wanting to deny democracy, you ought to be all for that.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #453
Deleted member 5849 said:
That's not quite right, is it. She's saying she'll stand in an election on a platform of revoking Article 50 without going to a referendum.

Given you righties spend your time running scared of a second referendum and wanting to deny democracy, you ought to be all for that.
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By definition if there is a referendum she’d ignore its validity if remain lost
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #454
Deleted member 5849 said:
That's not quite right, is it.
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Actually yes it is. She let it slip when pushed in a live interview a few weeks ago.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #455
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What on Earth are you on about?
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I give up trying understand you

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