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oldfiver

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,156
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If you have a wage budget for the season and you give a player a new contract on an extra 2-3k a week then that money will come from that wage budget, meaning you can't then use it to pay another player you're looking to sign.

C'mon G. We know you're smarter than that.
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Isn't extending a player contract almost like buying a new player?
 

Frostie

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,157
Could do without the extra £11k+ for VAR this weekend too tbh, especially as it's bound to screw us somehow.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,158
Parachute payment clubs = money to throw around
A handful of clubs with owners who have deep pockets = money to throw around (Stoke, Forest, QPR, perhaps now Hull)
Other clubs who throw money around e.g. Reading, Derby, Bristol City = impending doom
Clubs who don't throw money around (having had fingers burnt) Luton, us ?

Until they deal with the top group, the rest are trying to secure one potential promotion place (if that). A team outside that top group could easily spend £10m and fail to get promoted....they need to level up the playing field.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,159
oldfiver said:
Isn't extending a player contract almost like buying a new player?
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No, because you don't have to replace said player when his contract would have run out. It does however increase his value if a buyer comes in for the player.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,160
Frostie said:
Could do without the extra £11k+ for VAR this weekend too tbh, especially as it's bound to screw us somehow.
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Is this our first VAR game?
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,161
oldfiver said:
Isn't extending a player contract almost like buying a new player?
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No as it’s a year extension on a contract
 

Sbarcher

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,162
oldfiver said:
Isn't extending a player contract almost like buying a new player?
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No just keeps the status quo, does not add improvement to the team.
 

Frostie

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,163
shmmeee said:
Is this our first VAR game?
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I believe so, unless I've forgotten something obvious?
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,164
Frostie said:
I believe so, unless I've forgotten something obvious?
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I was trying to think of another Prem team we’ve played recently. Was it on at Watford a couple of seasons back?
 

Frostie

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,165
shmmeee said:
I was trying to think of another Prem team we’ve played recently. Was it on at Watford a couple of seasons back?
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In the EFL Cup? Don't think so, believe it's only used at Wembley for the Semis & Final in that competition.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,166
Grendel said:
No as it’s a year extension on a contract
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Ah ok that makes sense sorry for making assumptions

I’m pretty certain it contained a significant increase in salary from now but again I may have assumed this
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,167
Frostie said:
In the EFL Cup? Don't think so, believe it's only used at Wembley for the Semis & Final in that competition.
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Shit yeah, forgot that was the EFL Cup. Must be then.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,168
Sbarcher said:
No just keeps the status quo, does not add improvement to the team.
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Should do if they progress and improve but take the point
 
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SSB

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,169
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ah ok that makes sense sorry for making assumptions

I’m pretty certain it contained a significant increase in salary from now but again I may have assumed this
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Did you get that from Dave?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,170
Frostie said:
Could do without the extra £11k+ for VAR this weekend too tbh, especially as it's bound to screw us somehow.
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Dont Southampton have to pay it?

They might then recover it from sales as they can deduct expenses

So we lose 45% of £11k ??
 
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oldfiver

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,171
Grendel said:
No as it’s a year extension on a contract
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Well it means at the end of Contract Year 1 you do dont have to replace him then
 

Frostie

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,172
oldfiver said:
Dont Southampton have to pay it?

They might then recover it from sales as they can deduct expenses

So we lose 45% of £11k ??
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Sorry, you're right that I quoted the total cost which is shared by the 2 clubs:

FA Cup games where VAR is used, sees a charge of £9,251 + VAT made by PGMOL.

That VAR money is deducted from the gate receipts amongst other expense, before the money left over is shared 45% for each club and 10% into the central pot to help fund the prize money.


So I guess will cost us more like £5k
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,173
SSB said:
Did you get that from Dave?
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No
 

Tommo1993

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,174
If we have to contribute towards VAR costs, then they should leave it out.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,175
Nick said:
Jesus Christ.
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Just checked their board and already debating whether he’s the best player at the club
 
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AOM

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,176
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Just checked their board and already debating whether he’s the best player at the club
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He probably is to be fair. If he actually turns up to games
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,177
Didn't realise the VAR cost, presumed the FA would pay that. Bloody hell.

Would it be cheaper to bribe the officials?
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,178
oldfiver said:
What position are we in ?
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The Twilight zone.






 
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oldfiver

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,179
At least not on the Dark Side (despite what some say)
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,180
Tommo1993 said:
If we have to contribute towards VAR costs, then they should leave it out.
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What if we refuse to pay and just say we want the game without it? If we were playing any team outside the prem we wouldn't have it anyway. Especially as chances are it'll work against us anyway.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,181
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
What if we refuse to pay and just say we want the game without it? If we were playing any team outside the prem we wouldn't have it anyway. Especially as chances are it'll work against us anyway.
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We should. Not our fault we drew Soton away!
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,182
Watching that Bushiri who we were linked to in the summer play for Hibs tonight. Good job we didn’t go in for him, he’s absolutely shite
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,183
Tea & Busquets said:
he is indeed shit but league 2 ?
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Yeah about that standard, the only reason he has hype is due to his brother Sean, who is actually a decent little player
 
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steve cooper

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,184
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ah ok that makes sense sorry for making assumptions

I’m pretty certain it contained a significant increase in salary from now but again I may have assumed this
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It says here O'Hare signed a new contract, I don't read that as an extension to an existing contract.
I think it's fair to assume an increase in pay, however that may not start until the end of his existing contract.

CONTRACT: Callum O'Hare signs new Sky Blues deal!

Coventry City are delighted to confirm that Callum O’Hare has signed a new contract with the Club!
www.ccfc.co.uk
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,185
steve cooper said:
It says here O'Hare signed a new contract, I don't read that as an extension to an existing contract.
I think it's fair to assume an increase in pay, however that may not start until the end of his existing contract.

CONTRACT: Callum O'Hare signs new Sky Blues deal!

Coventry City are delighted to confirm that Callum O’Hare has signed a new contract with the Club!
www.ccfc.co.uk
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No it would start as soon as he signed it
 
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Deity

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  • Feb 1, 2022
  • #1,186
oldfiver said:
Isn't extending a player contract almost like buying a new player?
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No not really. It doesn’t improve the quality of the team. It simply protects future value.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Feb 2, 2022
  • #1,187
Deity said:
No not really. It doesn’t improve the quality of the team. It simply protects future value.
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I believe the other word for that is "investment"
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Feb 2, 2022
  • #1,188
shmmeee said:
We need to go back to the model we had when Sisu took over which means buying the best young L1 talent really. Which you won’t do for nothing. We should be looking at the likes of Twine and Sykes in L1 to move us forward but they won’t come for free.
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Brannagan is the one we should try to sign if Oxford don’t go up - Blackpool had 3 bids turned down
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 2, 2022
  • #1,189
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Brannagan is the one we should try to sign if Oxford don’t go up - Blackpool had 3 bids turned down
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25, bit old for the model of developing players isn’t he?
 

Tea & Busquets

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  • Feb 2, 2022
  • #1,190
shmmeee said:
25, bit old for the model of developing players isn’t he?
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would be a very Jamie Allen esque transfer.
 
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