Israel - Palestinian Conflict (2 Viewers)

[SBAndy]

I appreciate the response and nature of it, but unfortunately most of the people talking about it, and what their angle is has become increasingly tiresome. We've had people ignoring facts and then recycling the same shit.

I don't have any issue with the Maccabi fans being banned particularly, they have a lot of scumbags and my point on this isn't that I would want to be anywhere near them either, but the overlook of the fact this decision certainly has something to do with the demographics of Birmingham and the fact they're just as much likely to kick off is considerably blinkered.

That last bit, regrettably, I think is a given which is why you’re not seeing conversation on it. Clearly that’s not right but, put simply, the SAG and WMP (rightly, in my view) don’t think they can guarantee safety in either direction. Not being able to is different from not wanting to - this is why politicians should stay well away from operational decisions. If the ban is reversed and it all goes tits up then you can bet your arse that WMP are getting thrown under the bus.

Now, it’s well documented that you have an issue with Islam. The fact you labour that they are “intolerant to other religions” when you’ve got the Maccabi fans on video chanting “death to Arabs” smacks slightly of your biases leading you to conclusions.

 

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[PVA]

That last bit, regrettably, I think is a given which is why you’re not seeing conversation on it. Clearly that’s not right but, put simply, the SAG and WMP (rightly, in my view) don’t think they can guarantee safety in either direction. Not being able to is different from not wanting to - this is why politicians should stay well away from operational decisions. If the ban is reversed and it all goes tits up then you can bet your arse that WMP are getting thrown under the bus.

100% this.

The SAG and police have to be confident they can guarantee everyone's safety. That's Villa fans, Maccabi fans, stewards, local residents, protestors.

And of course the police themselves. The police are people too.

Not to mention all this costs lots of money.

Is it all worth it for a football match? Not really in my opinion.

And I agree, if it gets overturned now and kicks off (and it almost certainly will), it's going to be incredibly fucking messy with lots of mud slinging from all sides about who is to blame.

The decision has been made and whether it was the right decision or not, they should stick with it.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

That last bit, regrettably, I think is a given which is why you’re not seeing conversation on it. Clearly that’s not right but, put simply, the SAG and WMP (rightly, in my view) don’t think they can guarantee safety in either direction. Not being able to is different from not wanting to - this is why politicians should stay well away from operational decisions. If the ban is reversed and it all goes tits up then you can bet your arse that WMP are getting thrown under the bus.

Now, it’s well documented that you have an issue with Islam. The fact you labour that they are “intolerant to other religions” when you’ve got the Maccabi fans on video chanting “death to Arabs” smacks slightly of your biases leading you to conclusions.

No, we are not seeing conversation on it because whenever Islam involved people like yourself are far too nervous to criticise it. It's hardly laboured to suggest they're an intolerant faith either, nor is it that this decision isn't largely in part to do with it.

I don't really have any bias on this. I've said several times over the Maccabi fans contain a lot of twats who I would rather stay the fuck away, but it is a cowardly position to take when you only cover that and ignore the other side of it.

 

[chiefdave]

You couldn't make this shit up. Maccabi Tel Aviv have now said even if the government overturns the police decision they will reject tickets.

 

[wingy]

You couldn't make this shit up. Maccabi Tel Aviv have now said even if the government overturns the police decision they will reject tickets.

While they investigate the events of yesterday Which were not down to them apparently.

 

[dadgad]

This is just tip of the iceberg stuff but could account for the knee jerk reaction by our corrupted govt to the banning of Maccabi fans.
Then the Tel Aviv fuzz appear to back the decision of their comrades in Brum.

 

[David O'Day]

You couldn't make this shit up. Maccabi Tel Aviv have now said even if the government overturns the police decision they will reject tickets.

Because their fans will kick off with the worlds eyes on them.