Both have joined GTT in assuming that all Israelis are Jewish.So has Ed Davey, it seems to be deeply unpopular across most the political divide other than Islamists and fringe left wingers.
fucking horrible twatBan Muslims and those fuckin stupid Palestine marches instead. Just saying like
You tell me, your the teacherI didn't 'tell everybody', I was asked repeatedly by a poster who kept bringing it up on his own.
What separates a Jewish football team from an Israeli one? How do you tell the difference?
Keep digging this anti-Semitic hole btw.
Genocide is the intent to destroy the whole or 'substantial' part of a group.
What they did on that day was clearly horrific beyond words, but I don't think they intended or expected to wipe out a substantial part of Israel on that day.
Whereas Israel have quite clearly intended to wipe out probably all, but at the very least a substantial part of, Palestinians.
Why is it so hard for you to understand that being Israeli and being Jewish aren't the same?You tell me, your the teacher
There's Arab-Israeli players in their current squad.It's not like Muslims also play for the Israeli national team wait what
Meet the non-Jewish players on Israel's national football team - The Jewish Chronicle
The inclusion of Muslim, Druze, and Arab players challenges the oversimplified narrative that all Israelis are Jewishwww.thejc.com
I agree entirelyWith respect, anyone who calls Hamas’ attack on October 7th 2023 'genocidal' but not Israel's murder of 65,000 people lacks moral clarity or is playing with definitions.
How much of the mulim population of Tel Aviv or Israel support Macabi Tel Avi, Mr i was a teacher you know?Both have joined GTT in assuming that all Israelis are Jewish.
Where have Aston Villa said that Jews can't go to the match?
*You'reYou tell me, your the teacher
Starmer said the ban was anti semetic
With respect, anyone who calls Israel’s war ‘genocidal’ but not Hamas’ attack on October 7th 2023 lacks moral clarity or is playing with definitions.
You do realise that making something up on the back of Dom also making something up doesn't mean it happened right?How much of the mulim population of Tel Aviv or Israel support Macabi Tel Avi, Mr i was a teacher you know?
They're players not fansMeet the non-Jewish players on Israel's national football team - The Jewish Chronicle
The inclusion of Muslim, Druze, and Arab players challenges the oversimplified narrative that all Israelis are Jewishwww.thejc.com
It's not playing with the definition - it is the actual UN definition.
Take it up with them not me if you don't agree.
I recall that when other people claimed that ethnic and religious minorities in this country were recently feeling intimidated by political protests, you denied they existed - do you have any proof?I am merely relaying what the guy said on a phone in programme. It’s his thoughts and feelings.
No I havnt assumed at all thanks. Just because I wasn't a teacher like yourself (yawn) i do know the demographics of the areaYou do realise that making something up on the back of Dom also making something up doesn't mean it happened right?
There could be secular Israelis and Christian supporters as well as any Muslim supporters of the club. You have lazily assumed that every Israeli is a Jew.
Jews have not been banned from attending
You've said they have banned all Jewish people, they haven't.No I havnt assumed at all thanks. Just because I wasn't a teacher like yourself (yawn) i do know the demographics of the area
I agree entirely
No one is saying that. The impact, however, clearly felt by Jewish people the most. Ironically, the linked you shared demonstrates how Arab Israelis and the Druze are well integrated in Israeli society. I don’t think Gaza or the West Bank has the same success story.Why is it so hard for you to understand that being Israeli and being Jewish aren't the same?
Why would occupied lands be integrated into Israeli society?Can we agree that Hamas’ actions on October 7th were genocidal?
No one is saying that. The impact, however, clearly felt by Jewish people the most. Ironically, the linked you shared demonstrates how Arab Israelis and the Druze are well integrated in Israeli society. I don’t think Gaza or the West Bank has the same success story.
Hamas committed a terrorist attack, not an attempted genocide. I mean let's be clear, do you think the UN got it wrong in their report?Can we agree that Hamas’ actions on October 7th were genocidal?
No one is saying that. The impact, however, clearly felt by Jewish people the most. Ironically, the linked you shared demonstrates how Arab Israelis and the Druze are well integrated in Israeli society. I don’t think Gaza or the West Bank has the same success story.
That’s an insightful remark because you expose what many people of on the ‘Pro-Pal’ side don’t actually believe in a two solution because the view is that all of the land is occupied. Again, you see this regularly at demos where you see people wearing necklaces, hoodies, T-shirts that depicts all of Israel as Palestine (link below is one example).Why would occupied lands be integrated into Israeli society?
We suddenly quoting something Starmer has said WITHOUT ridicule for once?Starmer said the ban was anti semetic
Hamas committed a terrorist attack, not an attempted genocide. I mean let's be clear, do you think the UN got it wrong in their report?
He has said that Jews have been banned from attending, when he's referring to the fans of an Israeli football club. He's thrown them into the same category. He doubled down with 'yeah but how many Muslims support Jewish (sic) clubs' when Muslims and other non-Jews in fact play for the national team. The point of the piece was to stop assuming that all Israelis are Jews.
Why is this so hard to understand?
yep all, it is, is the fear of violenceWe suddenly quoting something Starmer has said WITHOUT ridicule for once?
I can see how he has come to that conclusion, but this was a decision between the police and the SAG wasn't it.
I do honestly believe that they made this decision because they fear it may all kick off.
It's been turned now into a debate about race and Jews etc
I do feel I could all well kick off, so part of me is a little relieved that, that is the decision as it stands right now.
It's okay saying "police it", but if it gets out of hand it could easily turn into a riot.
Great football opinions, batshit crazy political ones. Not the only poster it applies to.Why is a terrorist attack and not genocide? Hamas literally put their war crimes on social media and there were multiple examples of people celebrating that they killed Jews. They didn’t care if their victims were Arab Israelis because there is no distinction for Hamas between Jew and Israeli.
If the UN is calling it a terror attack, then I think they’re wrong.
I havnt doubled down at all Leamington Sky Blue ex teacher. If Macabi fans are allowed they will not be roaming the streets looking for Muslims to attack. It will be the other way round and with all the lefty walkers like yourself stirring troubleHamas committed a terrorist attack, not an attempted genocide. I mean let's be clear, do you think the UN got it wrong in their report?
He has said that Jews have been banned from attending, when he's referring to the fans of an Israeli football club. He's thrown them into the same category. He doubled down with 'yeah but how many Muslims support Jewish (sic) clubs' when Muslims and other non-Jews in fact play for the national team. The point of the piece was to stop assuming that all Israelis are Jews.
Why is this so hard to understand?
I recall that when other people claimed that ethnic and religious minorities in this country were recently feeling intimidated by political protests, you denied they existed - do you have any proof?
No, I just said the Gaza and the West Bank are internationally recognised occupied lands so why would they be integrated into Israeli society?That’s an insightful remark because you expose what many people of on the ‘Pro-Pal’ side don’t actually believe in a two solution because the view is that all of the land is occupied. Again, you see this regularly at demos where you see people wearing necklaces, hoodies, T-shirts that depicts all of Israel as Palestine (link below is one example).
At a v fundamental level, a lot of these people do not believe Israel should exist on a fundamental level. Frankly, there’s a people on this thread that demonstrate that train of thought.
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From my POV, the pot is calling the kettle black. With respect, I think my views are more in line with majority opinion than yourself.Great football opinions, batshit crazy political ones. Not the only poster it applies to.
Are West Ham, Chelsea, Birmingham, Manchester Utd fans banned from Villa Park. Were Celtic fans banned earlier on in the year?yep all, it is, is the fear of violence
If it does it off, is that fair on the people who live there? The people who the Police are employed to protect and serve?
I don't agree with them not being allowed to go to the game. Jews haven't been banned from going, they just literally haven't.I havnt doubled down at all Leamington Sky Blue ex teacher. If Macabi fans are allowed they will not be roaming the streets looking for Muslims to attack. It will be the other way round and with all the lefty walkers like yourself stirring trouble
Why is a terrorist attack and not genocide? Hamas literally put their war crimes on social media and there were multiple examples of people celebrating that they killed Jews. They didn’t care if their victims were Arab Israelis because there is no distinction for Hamas between Jew and Israeli.
If the UN is calling it a terror attack, then I think they’re wrong.
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