One of their other hostages released Pete.
Wonderful News for every one and Sure the Foley's will celebrate the other families fortune .
However,the Barbaric nature and rawness of their emotions make It seem perverse In It's timing.
"How U.S. Interventionists Abetted the Rise of ISIS"
http://online.wsj.com/articles/rand...ntionists-abetted-the-rise-of-isis-1409178958
http://online.wsj.com/articles/rand...ntionists-abetted-the-rise-of-isis-1409178958
Yes. It's the difference between chopping someone's head off with a sabre and with a kitchen knife.
On a scale of 100 it is 2 more peaceful.
Don't worry. The US will likely arm the Kurds to their back teeth & train them up to defeat ISIS. Then flushed with victory - would it surprise anyone if they mounted an assault on Turkey to set up their own Kurdish state straddling it & Iraq?
There is no answer it seems other than leave them to sort themselves out. Painful indeed to see the slaughtering...but it has always happened on various levels & scales - & gone ignored by most. It's mainly because now it's on TV vividly bringing it to our own sitting rooms we (as a general public) feel the need to do something. BUT for every action taken there is a negative consequence of some sort.
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derbyskyblue
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all of them fookin mad easily solved just by pressing a button, good job i'm not prime minister, had a few scoops and that button would be pressed by now....
We did have that Norwegian gunman a few years ago, true. Not many people carrying out beheadings with knives and shouting 'God is great!' though.
Very true, if you have a strong stomach watch live leaks to see these cheeky chaps in action. To come to a town near you within a generation. Still so long as the people have their cheap booze and X factor, who will put up a fight
All of this slaughter over different interpretations of how to worship a fictional being. Religion and nationalism, the two biggest causes of conflict in humanity.
Good point. We got into too many wars with Scotland because we mistook kilts for something else...
A new video released showing the alleged beheading of american journalist Steven sotloff, and threatening the life of a British hostage. Killer sounding very similar to the vile scumbag that killed James Foley. I do hope this lowlife is made to suffer before they kill him.
Might wanna check out the crusades.
Writing groups off as madmen never works. For a group to be that successful they have to be offering something that at least some rational people buy into. The 21st century is scary for lots of people, especially traditionalists.
They get ISIS, we get UKIP. Same thing, differing degrees. Unless we work out how to help people adapt to the pace of change well keep seeing this in one form or another.
If Nigel starts beheading people and putting their heads on spikes I reckon he's fucked come the election
So now you're comparing something that happened in the 11th to 13th centuries to something thats happening now?
Islamic State is nowhere near the same as UKIP. What is difficult for Obama and Cameron is that fracturing powerful Arab nations like Iraq and Syria helps to preserve Israel as a dominant force in the region, and we all know what influence the pro-Israeli lobby has over British and especially American politics.
Marauding, ruinous fanatics - hell-bent on often barbaric progress toward ethic & religious cleansing.
Isn't this what ISIS is? Or is that the very foundation that the "land of the free" (US for the less informed) was built upon?
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Isn't this what ISIS is? Or is that the very foundation that the "land of the free" (US for the less informed) was built upon?
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Until it comes here to our streets, which it will, the people will continue to sleep
Not at all, I'm talking about on a regular basis, wait till these fuckers come back to the uk but hey the authorities already cover up child abuse to avoid upsetting people, what next
Good point, Jimmy Savile's crimes were hidden until he died. Close friends with the Thatcher establishment and the Royals too. Let's not pretend that child abuse cover ups are done only to protect ethnic minorities from recriminations.