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...increase in migrants across the Channel. (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Dec 27, 2018
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 3, 2019
  • #316
martcov said:
Buying what? Direct Marketing by social media ( in this case by Russia ). I don’t think Russia was the main player by any means, or that social media in the short run up could have convinced 17.4 million people on it’s own. Just another influence, late in the game and not as big as others. I have not mentioned Salisbury and, yes, that is a daft theory. To say that Russia has no influence on public opinion is also not realistic.
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You really need to get out more.
 
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westcountry_skyblue

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  • Jan 3, 2019
  • #317
The Germans couldn’t get across 70+ years ago now if you have a dinghy with 20 on it it’s a piece of piss
Thing is you let one in and the whole family gets a free pass to overflowing Britain
Just hope Abbot never becomes Home Secretary as she’d supply them with boats
Then moan about the nhs and housing!!!
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 3, 2019
  • #318
fernandopartridge said:
You really need to get out more.
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What did I say to make you say that?
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jan 3, 2019
  • #319
martcov said:
What did I say to make you say that?
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Just do it Mart ! There must be some lovely walks up on that North Coast, a bit chilly though at this time of year ?!
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 3, 2019
  • #320
Ashdown said:
Just do it Mart ! There must be some lovely walks up on that North Coast, a bit chilly though at this time of year ?!
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Do what? High water. Storm yesterday and day before. Off to Stuttgart next week and Berlin the week after. Cov last week. Certainly not too much at home.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 3, 2019
  • #321
martcov said:
Do what? High water. Storm yesterday and day before. Off to Stuttgart next week and Berlin the week after. Cov last week. Certainly not too much at home.
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Careful in Berlin. Watch out for skinheads
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 3, 2019
  • #322
Grendel said:
Careful in Berlin. Watch out for skinheads
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Not where I stay. Arab area.And Turks.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #323
We stayed at hotel castor many moons ago, I think it was a bit of a gay area. Loved Berlin though, so much space !
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #324
Ashdown said:
We stayed at hotel castor many moons ago, I think it was a bit of a gay area. Loved Berlin though, so much space !
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I don’t know where that is. I stay in Neukölln with a girl I know. More personal ;-). In August I am in East Berlin at the Berliner Bierfestival.
 
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The Lurker

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  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #325
Sky Blue Pete said:
One of the reasons is English is the language of the world. A consequence of our empire. The shelter they are given are the centres not new cars
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they are not put in centres. They are put in houses. Read this! Asylum support

Yet we have homelsss people born here not given that! It’s ridiculous! Charity begins at home
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #326
The Lurker said:
they are not put in centres. They are put in houses. Read this! Asylum support

Yet we have homelsss people born here not given that! It’s ridiculous! Charity begins at home
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Pete is talking about illegal immigrants, your link is talking about asylum seekers. Two completely different things.
 
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The Lurker

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  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #327
skybluetony176 said:
Pete is talking about illegal immigrants, your link is talking about asylum seekers. Two completely different things.
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no they are not. everyone who comes here claims for asylum in the first place. illegals are the ones no one knows about. the ones who work cash in hand. the fact is this country is full, nhs is at breaking point, houses and schools the same. I can’t imagine what this country will be like in 10 years. yet brexit gets the blame for everything.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #328
The Lurker said:
no they are not. everyone who comes here claims for asylum in the first place. illegals are the ones no one knows about. the ones who work cash in hand. the fact is this country is full, nhs is at breaking point, houses and schools the same. I can’t imagine what this country will be like in 10 years. yet brexit gets the blame for everything.
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We bring asylum seekers here, not all asylum seekers arrive under their own steam. Chinese illegal immigrants arrive legally on a tourism visa (over 5000 a year) and then disappear to work illegally having never claimed asylum as do illegal immigrants from countries all around the world. You seem to be blurring the lines.
 
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Westendlad

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  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #329
skybluetony176 said:
We bring asylum seekers here, not all asylum seekers arrive under their own steam. Chinese illegal immigrants arrive legally on a tourism visa (over 5000 a year) and then disappear to work illegally having never claimed asylum as do illegal immigrants from countries all around the world. You seem to be blurring the lines.
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As i said before Tony....Plenty of room in Eire....That would be ok with you wouldn't it ? P.s Mart f off you don't even live here, concentrate on your own countries problems.
 
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The Lurker

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  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #330
skybluetony176 said:
We bring asylum seekers here, not all asylum seekers arrive under their own steam. Chinese illegal immigrants arrive legally on a tourism visa (over 5000 a year) and then disappear to work illegally having never claimed asylum as do illegal immigrants from countries all around the world. You seem to be blurring the lines.
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you born stupid? asylum seekers are what’s in the name. they are seeking asylum. Most arrive here. so your saying 5000 Chinese people each year stay here illegally?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #331
The Lurker said:
you born stupid? asylum seekers are what’s in the name. they are seeking asylum. Most arrive here. so your saying 5000 Chinese people each year stay here illegally?
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No I wasn’t born stupid. That’s how I know the difference between an asylum seeker and an illegal immigrant.

I don’t say 5000 Chinese stay here each year the government do. 15% of all Chinese who arrive in the U.K. on a tourist visa disappear. If you’re not born stupid you can find these remarkable easy things to find out, out.
 
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Westendlad

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #332
The Lurker said:
you born stupid? asylum seekers are what’s in the name. they are seeking asylum. Most arrive here. so your saying 5000 Chinese people each year stay here illegally?
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Tony only gets his 'facts' off wiki or some lefty rag......So yes he is stupid
 
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The Lurker

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #333
skybluetony176 said:
No I wasn’t born stupid. That’s how I know the difference between an asylum seeker and an illegal immigrant.

I don’t say 5000 Chinese stay here each year the government do. 15% of all Chinese who arrive in the U.K. on a tourist visa disappear. If you’re not born stupid you can find these remarkable easy things to find out, out.
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you did say 5000 why have it in brackets after saying that? so your telling me no one who arrives here illegally claims asylum?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #334
The Lurker said:
they are not put in centres. They are put in houses. Read this! Asylum support

Yet we have homelsss people born here not given that! It’s ridiculous! Charity begins at home
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It’s not lurker and all councils have a reaponsibility legally to house homeless people. Homelessness is a really complex issue not affected by asylum seekers.

If you will I can tell you how a vulnerable female with a terrible story who was part of our church was told one might she was being moved to a new property and was driven to a new ‘home’ Over 100 miles away from her friends and support. Any suggestion from you that this is better than we treat ‘our own’ is insane and inhuman too. I’m sorry I wasn’t clear that those in centres are generally people who we are aware about on arriving rather than those claiming it once here and it’s a mixture of centres and local authority housing
 

Westendlad

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #335
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s not lurker and all councils have a reaponsibility legally to house homeless people. Homelessness is a really complex issue not affected by asylum seekers.

If you will I can tell you how a vulnerable female with a terrible story who was part of our church was told one might she was being moved to a new property and was driven to a new ‘home’ Over 100 miles away from her friends and support. Any suggestion from you that this is better than we treat ‘our own’ is insane and inhuman too. I’m sorry I wasn’t clear that those in centres are generally people who we are aware about on arriving rather than those claiming it once here and it’s a mixture of centres and local authority housing
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.........Whilst you live in your leafy suburb no doubt ....
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #336
Westendlad said:
.........Whilst you live in your leafy suburb no doubt ....
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What’s that got to do with compassion and humane treatment of fellow Hunan beings?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2019
  • #337
Top 20 facts about refugees and asylum seeker

Look at 14 and 18

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/assets/0004/4618/Asylum_Support_Nov_2018.pdf

You two need to pull your head out of your arses and grow up
 
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Westendlad

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2019
  • #338
Sky Blue Pete said:
What’s that got to do with compassion and humane treatment of fellow Hunan beings?
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You pissed Pete ?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2019
  • #339
The Lurker said:
you did say 5000 why have it in brackets after saying that? so your telling me no one who arrives here illegally claims asylum?
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I was quoting official government statistics. Not my statistics.

I’ve already made the point of telling you that asylum seekers don’t all arrive under their own steam so no I’m not telling you that asylum seekers don’t arrive illegally. Doesn’t mean that they don’t have a genuine claim for asylum though.

By the way it was you’re not your. Again because I wasn’t born stupid I know these things.
 

Westendlad

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2019
  • #340
skybluetony176 said:
I was quoting official government statistics. Not my statistics.

I’ve already made the point of telling you that asylum seekers don’t all arrive under their own steam so no I’m not telling you that asylum seekers don’t arrive illegally. Doesn’t mean that they don’t have a genuine claim for asylum though.

By the way it was you’re not your. Again because I wasn’t born stupid I know these things.
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Lol
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2019
  • #341
Westendlad said:
Tony only gets his 'facts' off wiki or some lefty rag......So yes he is stupid
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Leftie rag being anything left of Mein Kampf..
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 5, 2019
  • #342
Westendlad said:
Tony only gets his 'facts' off wiki or some lefty rag......So yes he is stupid
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Where do you get yours? Breitbart, Daily Farage, Infowars or the Sun?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2019
  • #343
Westendlad said:
As i said before Tony....Plenty of room in Eire....That would be ok with you wouldn't it ? P.s Mart f off you don't even live here, concentrate on your own countries problems.
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Still a British subject though and have family in Cov. Don’t like the direction my home country, England, is going in. It’s country‘s not countries btw..
 

Otis

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  • Jan 5, 2019
  • #344
Westendlad said:
.........Whilst you live in your leafy suburb no doubt ....
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We are thinking of moving, so I just typed 'leftie suburb' into Right Move and nothing came up.

Confused.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2019
  • #345
Otis said:
We are thinking of moving, so I just typed 'leftie suburb' into Right Move and nothing came up.

Confused.
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Earlsdon would fit I would think lol
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 6, 2019
  • #346
skybluetony176 said:
What do illegal immigrants get for free exactly in this country?
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Found this quite interesting to read through : Asylum support

Assuming these people crossing the channel fleeing war are looking for Asylum?

If you’ve been refused asylum
You’ll be given:
  • somewhere to live
  • £35.39 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries
You won’t be given:
  • the payment card if you don’t take the offer of somewhere to live
  • any money
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 6, 2019
  • #347
Westendlad said:
Tony only gets his 'facts' off wiki or some lefty rag......So yes he is stupid
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Grendull fact checks my posts on Wiki. Doesn’t mean I use it. Not sure what “lefty” rags you think I read to know the difference between an asylum seeker and an illegal immigrant. Even some “righty” publications will tell you the difference.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 6, 2019
  • #348
martcov said:
Where do you get yours? Breitbart, Daily Farage, Infowars or the Sun?
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Anything printed in bold text using words no more than two syllables would be my guess. Probably printed in capitals because it’s a bit shouty and printed in red ink to match the angry faces of the target readership.
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2019
  • #349
Sky Blue Pete said:
Top 20 facts about refugees and asylum seeker

Look at 14 and 18

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/assets/0004/4618/Asylum_Support_Nov_2018.pdf

You two need to pull your head out of your arses and grow up
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They still get looked after if they're refused Asylum?

If you’ve been refused asylum
You’ll be given:
  • somewhere to live
  • £35.39 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries
You won’t be given:
  • the payment card if you don’t take the offer of somewhere to live
  • any money
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 7, 2019
  • #350
Sky Blue Pete said:
Top 20 facts about refugees and asylum seeker

Look at 14 and 18

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/assets/0004/4618/Asylum_Support_Nov_2018.pdf

You two need to pull your head out of your arses and grow up
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I did like this quote though :

This does not mean asylum seekers live in luxury; far from it; people have no say in where they live and are often left to survive on around £5 a day.
 
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