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Ince, Robins or Shaw (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Sep 17, 2012
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AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #106
Ince is a tactical genius though

[video=youtube;RsCHPEwyd9E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsCHPEwyd9E&feature=youtu.be&t=46s[/video]
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #107
Michael Appleton is now 2nd favourite at 3-1!! wtf

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/coventry-specials/next-permanent-manager
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #108
Sky Blues said:
Can't remember anyone hating Money (though I have probably just missed something), but if it is Ince, Shaw or Robins then it looks like each of them has someone on this forum ready to start the "get them out" bandwagon rolling... I hope, whoever is selected, we give them a decent chance to sort this team out.
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You missed me, I hate Money. End This Money Nightmare Now!
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #109
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Both Robins and Ince have been in comparative decline in recent years from promising starts.

Robins did well at Rotherham, but that was back in 2009; after which his record at Barnsley was indifferent and he left under somewhat of a cloud. Ince did well at both Macclesfield and in his first stint at MK Dons, but did less well at Blackburn and in his second stint at MK Dons and Notts County - both of whom were comparatively well funded compared to their peers.

Money did well at Walsall with regards record and the nurturing of talent - remember - and went on to do well at Luton, who were very much a team in turmoil at the time.

As such, for me, it's Money - his recent record is good, and he's been with clubs who's profile is closely matched to ours.

That stated, I'd be happy with he security of any permanent manager, and will get behind them fully. With a run of games, we could be back in contention by Christmas, and that's got to be the focus from now on
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He didn't do well at Luton, he was fired for failing to get them promoted and became a target of the crowd's boos every game. At Walsall, he had the best squad in the division. Who on earth at L1 level hires a failed BSP manager?!?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #110
Wasn't he fired for having a go at fans with an outburst?
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #111
Sterling Archer said:
Anybody with a brain picks Robins out of those 3. Done an absolutely fantastic job at Rotherham and my Barnsley supporting mates were gutted to see him leave (of his own accord I hasten to add) Barnsley. People forget that Barnsley were everyones favourites for relegation when Robins took over.

Ince keeps getting sacked in his last 3 jobs for poor performances as well as falling out with his own players. Shaw isn't ready for the step up.

Robins is also a striker. We have a defender and a defensive midfielder on the coaching staff so would be nice to have that aspect that we're not very good at alongside them on the training pitch.
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I think I'm warming to Robins, and the point you make about him being a former forward is a great one.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #112
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Michael Appleton is now 2nd favourite at 3-1!! wtf

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/coventry-specials/next-permanent-manager
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What?????? Eoin Jess, fair enough, but Appleton?
 

Diehard Si

New Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #113
@ccfctv: The three man shortlist for the vacant #CoventryCity manager's job has been "revealed;" Paul Ince, Mark Robbins & Richard Money.

*not currently verified by the club itself tho.

In which case my original thread title was right. What a bloody drama, wish they'd just say.
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #114
Frankly I'm puzzled by the 3 mentioned. None fit what I would consider for the managers job at this football club and at THIS time.

Out of 55+ candidates (we were told) these are the 3 favourites for the job? Mind blowing.

Now I'm realising (if true) just why we are where we are.

If true it would seem SISU are gambling yet again with the existance of our club and the 421m they have invested so far.
How many on here even had these three in their prefered list?

We need something more special and inspiring right now and any of those appintments would not do that. Many on here want Wise because he is that inspiring presence we need, at least short term to get this place buzzing again. Wise is not my first choice either but I see the benefits of such an appointment for crowd increases and a sense of uplift alone that would have brought to us at a much needed time. I certainly would have Wise ahead of Ince too. Perhaps it's come down to finances? Though I can't beleive one managers salary can't be found for the right guy out of 55+ applications.

The only way for any one of the 3 mentioned, if appointed to get this club and attendances up would be by winning games immediately. That's enormous pressure, something someone like Wise would have been given more generous leeway on I feel.

Be that as it may. I hope sincerely that I'm proved absolutely wrong.
 

Sterling Archer

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #115
wingy said:
Well either Ince or Robins should have a line into their old gaffer for a few tasty loans ,at the other end of pitch to the last one though.
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Another member of the footballing world Ince has fallen out with. Ferguson got rid of him because (in his own words) he was a "big time Charlie" (something the clubs he's managed would agree with) and a "bottler."

They hate each other.
 

Sterling Archer

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #116
PVA said:
Don't forget Luton were effectively a league club playing in non league against a lot of part time clubs.

Robins' 43% at Rotherham is better than Money's 50ish% at Luton.
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Excellent point.
 

Colonel Mustard

New Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #117
Paxman II said:
Frankly I'm puzzled by the 3 mentioned. None fit what I would consider for the managers job at this football club and at THIS time. Out of 55+ candidates (we were told) these are the 3 favourites for the job? Mind blowing.
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Every manager we have been linked with, whether it is Robins, Ince, Black, Money, Wise, Brown, Shaw, Wilder, Blackwell etc, has been meet with some opposition. The really polished candidates are out of our league. You need to let Curbishley go!
 

Colonel Mustard

New Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #118
PVA said:
Don't forget Luton were effectively a league club playing in non league against a lot of part time clubs. Robins' 43% at Rotherham is better than Money's 50ish% at Luton.
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Sure. But what I find impressive about Money is his knack of making teams competitive. He tends to move struggling teams away from relegation, and higher-calibre teams into the playoffs. What's more, he was the coach during Roland's effective spell as CCFC manager, and has a strong reputation as a former academy manager (damn useful considering our reliance on the kids).

Add all that together and you have a man who is more likely than not to get more from this underperforming team.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #119
Paxman II said:
Frankly I'm puzzled by the 3 mentioned. None fit what I would consider for the managers job at this football club and at THIS time.

Out of 55+ candidates (we were told) these are the 3 favourites for the job? Mind blowing.

Now I'm realising (if true) just why we are where we are.

If true it would seem SISU are gambling yet again with the existance of our club and the 421m they have invested so far.
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This really tickled me. 421M...will they ever realise that they are just no darn good at this?
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #120
If it was 55 applicants and these are the 3 left you can only assume it was 3 underwhelming candidates and 52 piles of shite.
 
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ccfc2011

New Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #121
paul ince ...
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #122
Not thinking of Curbishly Colonel. Not at all.

I'm thinking that what the club needs is a bit of a figure head as much as a good manager. The clubs at such a low ebb we need inspiration. Hell even Roy Keane would have had the place buzzing! You can't guarantee anything but short term this club needs a shot in the arm quickly.

Personally if those 3 are the candidates then Robbins should be clear favourite. Whoever it is needs to win immediately and keep winning more than he loses or draws. Top 6 is a minimum requirement THIS season for a playoff place. Not so sure I'd stake that on Paul Ince. Hell I'd rather drag Strachan back here and know at least we would be organised and I'd have more confidence on acheiving some results!
 
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sidskyblue1967

New Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #123
It will have to be Money

He already has a Y at the end of his name !

Can`t see InceY or RobinsY making it

Time to pack up and go home I think !!

PUSB


SID
 

@richh87

Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #124
Has to be Robins. The more I read about Ince the less I like.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #125
Me too.

 

@richh87

Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #126
Otis said:
Me too.

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Yes, you too - the more I read about you the less I like.
 

CovLis86

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #127
Just want to get tomorrow out the way to end all this crap and at least know what we are dealing with. Been most drawn out time as a Coventry fan I can remember
 

Diehard Si

New Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #128
Yes, just bloody get in with it City. So frustrating.
 

Colonel Mustard

New Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #129
Paxman II said:
I'm thinking that what the club needs is a bit of a figure head as much as a good manager. The clubs at such a low ebb we need inspiration. Hell even Roy Keane would have had the place buzzing! You can't guarantee anything but short term this club needs a shot in the arm quickly.
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But remember McGinnity went that route when he sacked Black in favour of the glitz of Peter Reid - Mr "Instant Success". Indeed, the best two managers we have had since relegation have been relatively low-key.

The problem with a lot of these 'galvanising' figures is that they are bringing the reputation from their playing days, which counts for nothing in management. The only way the players can be galvanised is with good management, and the only way the fans can be galvanised is with good performances.

It is all more random than we really want to believe.
 
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KersleyDigs

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #130
Robins was a Man Utd striker and will no doubt be a good attacking coach which is something we need badly
 

slyblue57

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #131
Has to be Robins as I bet on him at 28/1 Vic Chandler last week !!!
:claping hands:
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #132
@richh87 said:
Yes, you too - the more I read about you the less I like.
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I've always said reading is bad for you.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #133
someone mentioned Curbishley in this thread, and i may be wrong but did'nt Waggottt or Fisher once work with him at Charlton .

If they did and they wanted someone to come in and rebuild the club , surely curbs did exactly that at Charlton, so could he be a dark horse.
I know i'm clutching at straws and we certainly could'nt afford him , but he has been sat at home for the last 4 years not earning much money, so could need the work !!!
I'd seriously love it if it was him

The Rev
 

Gaz

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #134
slyblue57 said:
Has to be Robins as I bet on him at 28/1 Vic Chandler last week !!!
:claping hands:
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Got him @ 14/1 which I thought was good.
 

skybluegod

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #135
i'd go for ince he seems to know what he talking about when i've seen him analyse matches and he has a point to prove
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #136
skybluegod said:
i'd go for ince he seems to know what he talking about when i've seen him analyse matches and he has a point to prove
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Having a point to prove and being any good are two totally different things
 

skybluejack10

New Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #137
i'd choose robins! almost got rotherham to promotion after a 17 point deduction and kept a poor barnsley side up last season! he also used to score goals for fun as a player.
ince is terrible. had 1 good managerial spell and that's it, will be devastated if him!
and money sounds a top manager but played as a defender. I'd choose robins, money then ince. wish wise was on there though!
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #138
CovLis86 said:
Just want to get tomorrow out the way to end all this crap and at least know what we are dealing with. Been most drawn out time as a Coventry fan I can remember
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At least when tomorrow is out the way and the new man is named, fans who believe the club have made the wrong choice can be vocal about it even before his squad have licked a ball
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #139
skybluegod said:
i'd go for ince he seems to know what he talking about when i've seen him analyse matches and he has a point to prove
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What, when he writes 'shoot' on a bit of paper you mean?
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2012
  • #140
Otis said:
What, when he writes 'shoot' on a bit of paper you mean?
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It seems like no other coventry manager hasn't tried this tactic....
 
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