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fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 5:25 PM
  • #981
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Keir Starmer does in official announcements and his performative patriotism fools no one. His MPs paint a different picture and they are the ones that will be knocking on doors for votes come the next election.

A Google search gets specific examples, but this gives a decent summary of the current state of play:

Keir Starmer faces discontent as Labour MPs reject union jack election flyers

Exclusive: Members say flag may alienate ethnic minority voters as some associate it with far right
www.theguardian.com
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All flag waving is performative though isn't it?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 6:03 PM
  • #982
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Grendel's point was that people hoist flags in public spaces aren't of the UK/home nations. Are they engaging in 'divisive' or 'intimidating' behaviour, if not, why? That's a curious double standard.

The whole business of erecting the Union Jack was in part a response to councils taking down the home nations flags whilst allowing Palestine (and others) flags to stand.

Our flags, particularly the Union Jack, is one of the most inclusive out there.
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Well it’s the Union flag when not at sea
Also it wasn’t it was to exert some kind of ownership
 
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ccfcno9

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  • Yesterday at 6:23 PM
  • #983
fernandopartridge said:
Farage would love all heath services to be provided for profit, the profit falling to

Private insurance companies
Private healthcare providers
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You don't think its like that already then.
Your Doctors surgery's are pretty much private enterprise's fund by the government under NHS banner.
Dentist's are similar.
The pharmacy at UNHCW was run by Lloyds corporate company working for profit with shareholders. Now another corporate runs it.
The hospital itself is a trust.
The booking system for blood tests is swift queue.
Need I say more
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 6:45 PM
  • #984
ccfcno9 said:
You don't think its like that already then.
Your Doctors surgery's are pretty much private enterprise's fund by the government under NHS banner.
Dentist's are similar.
The pharmacy at UNHCW was run by Lloyds corporate company working for profit with shareholders. Now another corporate runs it.
The hospital itself is a trust.
The booking system for blood tests is swift queue.
Need I say more
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Yes, for some reason I'm very very familiar with it
 

Ian1779

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  • Yesterday at 6:52 PM
  • #985
SkyBlueDom26 said:
When he gets in the first thing that should happen is she gets put in jail, a truly awful piece of work and a terrible human being
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Absolute fucking snowflake.
 
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ccfcno9

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  • Yesterday at 6:58 PM
  • #986
fernandopartridge said:
Yes, for some reason I'm very very familiar with it
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Would this be a more accurate statement?

Farage would love IMO (@fernandopartridge), like the current and previous governments that all heath services to be provided for profit, the profit falling to

Private insurance companies
Private healthcare providers

Or is your rhetoric just to diss Reform who is yet to be tested of what he may or may not achieve. I don't know myself but am willing to try somebody else.
 
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LarryGrayson

Active Member
  • Yesterday at 7:05 PM
  • #987
try summat else vote loony just in case they do a good job
 
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ccfcno9

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  • Yesterday at 7:22 PM
  • #988
LarryGrayson said:
try summat else vote loony just in case they do a good job
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Do you have learning difficulties ?
14 years of Tories didn't fair that well.
14 years practice/preparing and 16 months in government Labour not looking that great either.
To be far to Farage whether you wanted Brexit or not he doggedly campaigned for years on end to achieve it without relent. He may just have a solution.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 7:42 PM
  • #989
ccfcno9 said:
Do you have learning difficulties ?
14 years of Tories didn't fair that well.
14 years practice/preparing and 16 months in government Labour not looking that great either.
To be far to Farage whether you wanted Brexit or not he doggedly campaigned for years on end to achieve it without relent. He may just have a solution.
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He doesn’t
Brexit wasn’t a solution
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 7:50 PM
  • #990
ccfcno9 said:
To be far to Farage whether you wanted Brexit or not he doggedly campaigned for years on end to achieve it without relent. He may just have a solution.
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Given how awful Brexit has been, I'm not sure putting the man who campaigned so strongly to damage his own country into number 10 is the smart solution everyone thinks it is to solve all our problems.

It's mad how little he gets held to account for his role in the state of the country today. The fact he's potentially the next PM is absolutely mind boggling. He's very good at what he does, to be fair to him.
 
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LarryGrayson

Active Member
  • Yesterday at 7:55 PM
  • #991
ccfcno9 said:
Do you have learning difficulties ?
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yes mate i c**t always write the words i see in my head lick there supposed to be do you have any problems i only arsk cos voting for summat just because its diffrent ant the anser farage just picks on the weak and uses excuse after excuse and he dont offer the answers and if it goes wrong lick brexit he blames others he dont own it himself his a weasel
 
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ccfcno9

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 8:06 PM
  • #992
LarryGrayson said:
yes mate i c**t always write the words i see in my head lick there supposed to be do you have any problems i only arsk cos voting for summat just because its diffrent ant the anser farage just picks on the weak and uses excuse after excuse and he dont offer the answers and if it goes wrong lick brexit he blames others he dont own it himself his a weasel
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Apologies no offence meant, but I've never seen 'Summat' written before, I'll since learnt that it is mostly used in northern dialect, that and Loony in one sentence had me confused. I'll try to be more sensitive to one line reply's in future. Each point of view is valid in any debate.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 8:16 PM
  • #993
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I got told it was woke to suggest having the Union flag on corners at football grounds
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Who said that?

fernandopartridge said:
All flag waving is performative though isn't it?
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No, I don’t think it is and to make a generic statement that goes beyond the immigration debate… the civic culture of the UK as a whole needs rejuvenating.

In the context of 20-30 years of mass migration, unifying symbols and stories of the nation are much more important than before. How do you take disparate ethnic, cultural, histories and unite that society? The course of action isn’t clear.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 8:20 PM
  • #994
Sky Blue Pete said:
He doesn’t
Brexit wasn’t a solution
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With respect, Brexit has changed surprisingly little and if you think everything would be fine and dandy, perhaps look at what is actually going on in continental Europe.

Think Reform is bad? Look at Le Pen’s party, the AfD and who’s polling well in the Netherlands, Spain, Italy, Austria and so on.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 8:21 PM
  • #995
Mucca Mad Boys said:
With respect, Brexit has changed surprisingly little and if you think everything would be fine and dandy, perhaps look at what is actually going on in continental Europe.

Think Reform is bad? Look at Le Pen’s party, the AfD and who’s polling well in the Netherlands, Spain, Italy, Austria and so on.
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Brexit was a betrayal of an idea and an aspiration
It changed everything
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 8:25 PM
  • #996
LarryGrayson said:
yes mate i c**t always write the words i see in my head lick there supposed to be do you have any problems i only arsk cos voting for summat just because its diffrent ant the anser farage just picks on the weak and uses excuse after excuse and he dont offer the answers and if it goes wrong lick brexit he blames others he dont own it himself his a weasel
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Getting silly now
 
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