fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
All flag waving is performative though isn't it?
All flag waving is performative though isn't it?Keir Starmer does in official announcements and his performative patriotism fools no one. His MPs paint a different picture and they are the ones that will be knocking on doors for votes come the next election.
A Google search gets specific examples, but this gives a decent summary of the current state of play:
Keir Starmer faces discontent as Labour MPs reject union jack election flyers
Exclusive: Members say flag may alienate ethnic minority voters as some associate it with far rightwww.theguardian.com
Well it’s the Union flag when not at seaGrendel's point was that people hoist flags in public spaces aren't of the UK/home nations. Are they engaging in 'divisive' or 'intimidating' behaviour, if not, why? That's a curious double standard.
The whole business of erecting the Union Jack was in part a response to councils taking down the home nations flags whilst allowing Palestine (and others) flags to stand.
Our flags, particularly the Union Jack, is one of the most inclusive out there.
You don't think its like that already then.Farage would love all heath services to be provided for profit, the profit falling to
Private insurance companies
Private healthcare providers
Yes, for some reason I'm very very familiar with itYou don't think its like that already then.
Your Doctors surgery's are pretty much private enterprise's fund by the government under NHS banner.
Dentist's are similar.
The pharmacy at UNHCW was run by Lloyds corporate company working for profit with shareholders. Now another corporate runs it.
The hospital itself is a trust.
The booking system for blood tests is swift queue.
Need I say more
Absolute fucking snowflake.When he gets in the first thing that should happen is she gets put in jail, a truly awful piece of work and a terrible human being
Would this be a more accurate statement?Yes, for some reason I'm very very familiar with it
Do you have learning difficulties ?try summat else vote loony just in case they do a good job
He doesn’tDo you have learning difficulties ?
14 years of Tories didn't fair that well.
14 years practice/preparing and 16 months in government Labour not looking that great either.
To be far to Farage whether you wanted Brexit or not he doggedly campaigned for years on end to achieve it without relent. He may just have a solution.
To be far to Farage whether you wanted Brexit or not he doggedly campaigned for years on end to achieve it without relent. He may just have a solution.
yes mate i c**t always write the words i see in my head lick there supposed to be do you have any problems i only arsk cos voting for summat just because its diffrent ant the anser farage just picks on the weak and uses excuse after excuse and he dont offer the answers and if it goes wrong lick brexit he blames others he dont own it himself his a weaselDo you have learning difficulties ?
Apologies no offence meant, but I've never seen 'Summat' written before, I'll since learnt that it is mostly used in northern dialect, that and Loony in one sentence had me confused. I'll try to be more sensitive to one line reply's in future. Each point of view is valid in any debate.yes mate i c**t always write the words i see in my head lick there supposed to be do you have any problems i only arsk cos voting for summat just because its diffrent ant the anser farage just picks on the weak and uses excuse after excuse and he dont offer the answers and if it goes wrong lick brexit he blames others he dont own it himself his a weasel
Who said that?I got told it was woke to suggest having the Union flag on corners at football grounds
All flag waving is performative though isn't it?
With respect, Brexit has changed surprisingly little and if you think everything would be fine and dandy, perhaps look at what is actually going on in continental Europe.He doesn’t
Brexit wasn’t a solution
Brexit was a betrayal of an idea and an aspirationWith respect, Brexit has changed surprisingly little and if you think everything would be fine and dandy, perhaps look at what is actually going on in continental Europe.
Think Reform is bad? Look at Le Pen’s party, the AfD and who’s polling well in the Netherlands, Spain, Italy, Austria and so on.
yes mate i c**t always write the words i see in my head lick there supposed to be do you have any problems i only arsk cos voting for summat just because its diffrent ant the anser farage just picks on the weak and uses excuse after excuse and he dont offer the answers and if it goes wrong lick brexit he blames others he dont own it himself his a weasel
Assume you work for UHCW? I did my training with your CEO, not seen him for years other than on tv, but was a good lad back when I knew him. Always knew he was destined to go far.Yes, for some reason I'm very very familiar with it
Assume you work for UHCW? I did my training with your CEO, not seen him for years other than on tv, but was a good lad back when I knew him. Always knew he was destined to go far.
Some yes majority noToday in ‘Is this really what we want in the UK’ news
LA father separated from toddler by federal agents outside Home Depot: Here's why
In response, DHS said the suspect threw rocks at law enforcement while wielding a hammer with his child in the car. They added the operation resulted in the arrest of five undocumented immigrants from Mexico and Guatemala.www.foxla.com
So this time as it suits the race baiting narrative you don't want to wait for the facts to emerge?Today in ‘Is this really what we want in the UK’ news
LA father separated from toddler by federal agents outside Home Depot: Here's why
In response, DHS said the suspect threw rocks at law enforcement while wielding a hammer with his child in the car. They added the operation resulted in the arrest of five undocumented immigrants from Mexico and Guatemala.www.foxla.com
Sure, we don't want to see law enforcement officials attacked like that. We also don't want to see masked goons snatching whoever they want and targeting specific communities in which to do it.So this time as it suits the race baiting narrative you don't want to wait for the facts to emerge?
The other side (as yet unfounded and unproven), said the below:
"During a targeted immigration enforcement operation, a U.S. citizen exited his vehicle WIELDING A HAMMER and THREW ROCKS at law enforcement while he had a child in his car. He was arrested for assault and during his arrest a pistol was found in his car that was reported stolen out of the state of New York. The individual has an active warrant for property damage. We refuse to apologize for enforcing the law. The operation resulted in the arrest of 5 [undocumented immigrants] from Mexico and Guatemala who were all breaking our nation’s immigration laws. Their criminal histories include DUI, driving without a license, and previous removal, which is a felony."
Now as I say, unfounded allegations at this stage (and we know this USA ICE movement are cunts who go ott), but if that were true, then absolutely we would want the law to take action in the UK, wouldn't you?
If they were wearing body cams it shouldn't be difficult to verify. But these are masked criminals who know full well what they're doing.I would like to see proof of the hammer wielding and rock throwing.
Because they have form for massively over egging things to justify their actions.
Previously they accused some people of ATTACKING OFFICERS WITH EXPLOSIVES which makes you think they were lobbing petrol bombs or something horrendous, but actually they were just lighting some fireworks in the street.
Amazes me nobody has been shot yet. a country where everyone seems to be armed and you're allowing masked people not in any identifiable uniform or vehicle to go round grabbing people off the street. Recipe for disaster.If they were wearing body cams it shouldn't be difficult to verify. But these are masked criminals who know full well what they're doing.
Funnily enough they have rocked up and started brandishing their firearms in some places. Only ever in cities that are politically opposed to Trump of course.Amazes me nobody has been shot yet. a country where everyone seems to be armed and you're allowing masked people not in any identifiable uniform or vehicle to go round grabbing people off the street. Recipe for disaster.
Agree and I'd like to see evidence of it too as I don't necessarily believe it. I was more at the angle of the usual 'wait for the facts' line until it isn't the case.I would like to see proof of the hammer wielding and rock throwing.
Because they have form for massively over egging things to justify their actions.
Previously they accused some people of ATTACKING OFFICERS WITH EXPLOSIVES which makes you think they were lobbing petrol bombs or something horrendous, but actually they were just lighting some fireworks in the street.
I acknowledged the methods were wrong and that ICE are cunts, my point was more about if those facts were true, then all bets are off and he'd have deserved whatever was coming to him, it was a response to 'is this what we want in the UK' with as yet no corroboration from either side available.Sure, we don't want to see law enforcement officials attacked like that. We also don't want to see masked goons snatching whoever they want and targeting specific communities in which to do it.
We don't know what the circumstances were for this person, but if masked goons came and tried to snatch friends of yours and bundle them into the back of a van, you wouldn't do nothing presumably?
Fair enoughI acknowledged the methods were wrong and that ICE are cunts, my point was more about if those facts were true, then all bets are off and he'd have deserved whatever was coming to him, it was a response to 'is this what we want in the UK' with as yet no corroboration from either side available.
Saw a video from a I guess citizen reporter or could have been a mainstream one, first guy going back in, popping out for a fag during the process, systems a joke,do you suspect a link to someone or,collusion of some sort, I wouldn't be surprised by anything at this point, media input or anything?Algerian released prisoner rearrested... a 3 minute walk away from the other one....
That's not in anyway suspicious at all? The prisons are 48 miles apart, why would they both go to the same area?
Saw a video from a I guess citizen reporter or could have been a mainstream one, first guy going back in, popping out for a fag during the process, systems a joke,do you suspect a link to someone or,collusion of some sort, I wouldn't be surprised by anything at this point, media input or anything?
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