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Nick

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  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #211
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
......ah but some people on here think the protests play into the hands of Tim Fisher, though they don't say how. If an Islamist terrorist blew up the subway in New York in protest at Trump's Muslim ban that would play into Trump's hands, but I hardly see how any of what has happened recently at our matches will help Tim Fisher.
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Read a bit better then as they have said how multiple times.
 

Wheelfass

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #212
letsallsingtogether said:
Effective protest which one was that then?
After all every protest has been slated on here as shit.
And I don't know you ether and have been in 99% of protests.
Where were you and the others when we protested.
Outside Sisus offices
Outside FL.
Outside the Council house both against the Council and Wasps.
Against Wasps first home game.
Funny but they did not disrupt games but we're all slated on here.
Nick is the worst trying to get everyone clicking on his site, but who will bother clicking next season when there will be nothing to talk about.
4000 fans sitting there quietly doesn't fill me with enthusiasm for renewingy ST next season.
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Sums it up for me LAST. Well said
 
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ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #213
Not sure how I feel about the protest itself, but I don't think they caused the goal, us being woeful defensively did. The delay in game was around the same as you'd get if someone was injured or the referee had to tell two players to stop scuffling, I find it hard to believe that'd have any great effect at all.
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #214
Nick said:
A thread was started about tennis balls, it had been on Facebook all week.

Should I delete any mention then?

Of course you didn't know anything about tennis balls, ok then
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Do or say what you want, you normally do.
 

CJ_covblaze

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #215
Nick said:
I'm not blaming them or the Trust, I am just saying maybe it needs a bit of distance from it and a bit of guidance.

There are people saying they want to get SISU loads of fines so they do it, why not point out that it's CCFC that gets fined for example? Why not point out it's only going to damage CCFC?
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I did on CWR last night. I asked for no protests on behalf of the Trust.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #216
Nick said:
Read a bit better then as they have said how multiple times.
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You're telling me to read a bit better ? You tell me in your own words how any of this plays into Fishers hands. He has no interest in protecting or enhancing the club, he is there to "balance the books" which anyone can do simply by cutting overheads. He will take us to division 4 next season and we will do well to survive there. He has no moral compass and is universally hated . Do you think that should he gleefully announce that the F.A. have fined CCFC the overwhelming majority of fans will suddenly side with Fisher ? Yes Nick, please tell me how this plays into fisher's hands. Keep it simple, because I can't read very well.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #217
Nick said:
Again Tony, did you see the reaction to the tennis balls today?
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Too busy doing DIY id guess.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #218
CJ_covblaze said:
I did on CWR last night. I asked for no protests on behalf of the Trust.
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Credit to you for doing so CJ, the protests would be a hell of a lot more effective if it was a large concerted effort on specific organised occasions, rather than a few martyrs being naughty at every given opportunity.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #219
CJ_covblaze said:
I did on CWR last night. I asked for no protests on behalf of the Trust.
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Sounds like Nick should take some of his own advice and read a bit better then as you and TJHW have said now multiple times.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #220
Grendel said:
Too busy doing DIY id guess.
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Dumber has entered the building.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #221
The most depressing thing about today is encapsulated in this thread.......fans so badly divided...almost beyond repair.......when we need unity and leadership....all we get is bitching, bullshit and an impotent and rudderless trust....

Still....kids are in bed, wife is in london and ive got the dog on my slippered feet, a big bowl of peanuts and a nice bottle of pinot noir on the go.....so it could be worse.

Peace and love my sky blue brothers....peace and love
 
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Chip Batch

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #222
Wheelfass said:
Sums it up for me LAST. Well said
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The Sheffield United protest wasn't shit.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #223
For me any protest or action has to be about quality not quantity and has to have the fanbase largely on board.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #224
Nick said:
nobody is blaming them for the second goal are they?
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Sorry for being slow with my reply but tennis balls were not being thrown when the first goal was scored the incident was over. We did not concentrate and they did next time a player gets injured and we concede are you going the blame that player for us conceding
 
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Wheelfass

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #225
Chip Batch said:
The Sheffield United protest wasn't shit.
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Who said it was. It's all good.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #226
jimchin said:
I find it extraordinary that people can complain about the protests. A protest is meant to disrupt, agitate, anger...that is surely the nature of protests. I'm sorry that you have a season ticket and consider your entertainment spoilt, but this is a democracy and protesting, in whatever form, is legitimate. To ask "but what has it achieved", misses the point. It can take weeks, months, years sometimes to alter opinion, but imagine for a moment if nobody protested, that instead everyone continued to turn up to watch a club every week, that is obviously being destroyed by an absent and ignorant owner, but nobody ever said anything. Wouldn't that be stranger? The very fact that the protests are discussed here and in other media would say they are beginning to have an effect. Just as the withdrawing of labour is the most powerful act of a union, or a worker, so disrupting the actions of a club when it's fulfilling its fixtures, is surely the most powerful action you can take. The club will be relegated this year, it has no ground and horrific owners who seem happy to continue to destroy it....why wouldn't people protest?
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Spot on.
 
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Wheelfass

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #227
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
Sorry for being slow with my reply but tennis balls were not being thrown when the first goal was scored the incident was over. We did not concentrate and they did next time a player gets injured and we concede are you going the blame that player for us conceding
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He likes to keep it riding.
Keeps the £'s rolling in for the tax man.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #228
skybluetony176 said:
Dumber has entered the building.
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You've been here a fair bit haven't you? What's the excuse today? Plumbing, gardening?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #229
Captain Dart said:
Spot on.
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Lol says the c**t whose never attended a game in his life
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #230
CJ_covblaze said:
I did on CWR last night. I asked for no protests on behalf of the Trust.
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Good job you're thick skinned
No problem with people who are massively frustrated and taking measures of their own volition but the lad on CWR last night wasn't half hostile.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #231
Skybluefaz said:
Credit to you for doing so CJ, the protests would be a hell of a lot more effective if it was a large concerted effort on specific organised occasions, rather than a few martyrs being naughty at every given opportunity.
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There lies the problem.
There are certain new groups out there who will not join TJHW as we are seen as to placid.
We do not agree with any action that is unlawful ie. Entering the field of play, Smoke Bombs violence of any nature etc.
The problem is that we are an easy target to blame everything on, and that will cause another problem.
Do we disband and then take everything underground?
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #232
Grendel said:
You've been here a fair bit haven't you? What's the excuse today? Plumbing, gardening?
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Wish I had some that instead of watching a so called game of football.
Every week get worse then the one before, I really worry about what will be left by the end of the season.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #233
skybluetony176 said:
Sounds like Nick should take some of his own advice and read a bit better then as you and TJHW have said now multiple times.
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As I said, condemn and distance and maybe educate.
 

CJ_covblaze

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #234
wingy said:
Good job you're thick skinned
No problem with people who are massively frustrated and taking measures of their own volition but the lad on CWR last night wasn't half hostile.
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Not easy but hopefully I did ok. I'm as frustrated as him. That's the worse bit.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #235
Nick said:
And that's the standard reply. Switch your brain on
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you have so many standard replies How ironic your reply
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #236
cloughie said:
Have only read the 1st page but for ffs you fucking wankers blaming tennis balls , I am more shocked by these pathetic responses than the performances on the pitch .

Why oh why is it that the protests only affect city players and never the opposition, because we are shit regardless.
The 1st goal was because of the tennis balls.?....if anyone thinks that then they are clueless. just look at burge no mans land again
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Here are the 'highlights' no tennis balls also no defence.
Coventry 0-2 Millwall
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #237
cloughie said:
you have so many standard replies How ironic your reply
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Really? So why not say what today achieved to get rid of SISU and I'll give you how it didn't help CCFC / The fans.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #238
letsallsingtogether said:
There lies the problem.
There are certain new groups out there who will not join TJHW as we are seen as to placid.
We do not agree with any action that is unlawful ie. Entering the field of play, Smoke Bombs violence of any nature etc.
The problem is that we are an easy target to blame everything on, and that will cause another problem.
Do we disband and then take everything underground?
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No, it's just pointing out to people who think it is going to be getting SISU a fine that it isn't. Educating people a bit more.

Again, I am not blaming the trust for today. More calling on them a bit to point things out in statements so people aren't throwing tennis balls on happy in the thought that Joy is going to be getting a letter fining her for example.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #239
CJ_covblaze said:
I did on CWR last night. I asked for no protests on behalf of the Trust.
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Fair play to you.

It isn't even "no protests" it is just disrupting the games, it is pointing out to people that CCFC will be fined not SISU for example. It is trying to get a bit of fan unity (which as I understand you are trying and i am fully behind!!)
 
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Chip Batch

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #240
jimchin said:
I find it extraordinary that people can complain about the protests. A protest is meant to disrupt, agitate, anger...that is surely the nature of protests. I'm sorry that you have a season ticket and consider your entertainment spoilt, but this is a democracy and protesting, in whatever form, is legitimate. To ask "but what has it achieved", misses the point. It can take weeks, months, years sometimes to alter opinion, but imagine for a moment if nobody protested, that instead everyone continued to turn up to watch a club every week, that is obviously being destroyed by an absent and ignorant owner, but nobody ever said anything. Wouldn't that be stranger? The very fact that the protests are discussed here and in other media would say they are beginning to have an effect. Just as the withdrawing of labour is the most powerful act of a union, or a worker, so disrupting the actions of a club when it's fulfilling its fixtures, is surely the most powerful action you can take. The club will be relegated this year, it has no ground and horrific owners who seem happy to continue to destroy it....why wouldn't people protest?
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I'm a season ticket holder and I'd happily have every game for the rest of the season abandoned due to protests. I haven't been on the pitch, thrown a flare and I'm not NOPM in any way. I wouldn't tell others what they should or shouldn't be doing.

It's just my opinion, but by doing nothing we would be seen as at least condoning the way the club is being run. It probably doesn't influence SISU to any extent, but people want to get their voices heard.

They will go eventually, and one way or another CCFC will not die.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #241
Captain Dart said:
Here are the 'highlights' no tennis balls also no defence.
Coventry 0-2 Millwall
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Does it show the reaction from other fans just afterwards? What did you think of when that happened?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #242
Sky Blue Harry H said:
For me any protest or action has to be about quality not quantity and has to have the fanbase largely on board.
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Totally agree. Perhaps it's time to reflect a l
Nick said:
No, it's just pointing out to people who think it is going to be getting SISU a fine that it isn't. Educating people a bit more.
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I know of no one who thinks it will be SISU who will be fined. Most people are educated enough to know that it is the club that will be fined. They are venting their anger essentially at SISU, and at Tim Fisher who is seen as the puppet of SISU . They may be doing it in a way which damages the club but I doubt it will stop them. Some people are now too angry to care . They don't need "educating", they want change.
 
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cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #243
Grendel said:
Lol says the c**t whose never attended a game in his life
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what wonderful vocabulary you have for such a high flying executive
you really are a vile and bitter man
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #244
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I know of no one who thinks it will be SISU who will be fined. Most people are educated enough to know that it is the club that will be fined. They are venting their anger essentially at SISU, and at Tim Fisher who is seen as the puppet of SISU . They may be doing it in a way which damages the club but I doubt it will stop them. Some people are now too angry to care . They don't need "educating", they want change. They feel they have absolutely nothing to lose because the club is being completely destroyed.
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 4, 2017
  • #245
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Totally agree. Perhaps it's time to reflect a l

I know of no one who thinks it will be SISU who will be fined. Most people are educated enough to know that it is the club that will be fined. They are venting their anger essentially at SISU, and at Tim Fisher who is seen as the puppet of SISU . They may be doing it in a way which damages the club but I doubt it will stop them. Some people are now too angry to care . They don't need "educating", they want change.
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So how will it get change and achieve anything?

There are plenty of people who think SISU will be fined and not CCFC. There is no logic to it or thought behind it. People were jumping around happy like it was the best thing ever. It seems to be past protest and just people seeing what they can get away with doing. There wasn't any message to it. At least with protests like the coffin they have a message behind them and some thought going into them and didn't disrupt a game.

Have you ever seen the reaction like today between fans? It's all well and good people saying nothing happened.
 
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