Match Thread Huddersfield on saturday (2 Viewers)

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The CableGuy

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Was at the game and boy, that was disappointing, especially for my oldest nephew who was at his first football game. Loads of effort from City but the lack of quality was there for all to see. Shame really cos the fans were great and the sun was out.
 
PUSB-We_are_going_up

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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Been a cracking season and the way we lost today left a sour taste in my mouth (maybe that was my lunch though), I really doubt the penalty I think its a poor decision but we mustn’t give the referees a decision to make as it near enough always goes against us
 
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Macca

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I don’t get this arrogance every week that we haven’t beaten “that shit” . we have performed like a mid table team and funnily enough that’s where we end up. It seems these days that if you can pass the ball around in pretty patterns in non threatening positions then you can class yourselves as superior. That’s a given. My local non league side can do that. Anyone above us is a more efficient footballing unit. Definition of a better footballing side depends on your view. For me though it’s a bit simplistic, score more goals than the opposition on a regular basis. If the EFL start dishing out points for artistic impression I’ll change my mind
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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Macca said:
I don’t get this arrogance every week that we haven’t beaten “that shit” . we have performed like a mid table team and funnily enough that’s where we end up. It seems these days that if you can pass the ball around in pretty patterns in non threatening positions then you can class yourselves as superior. That’s a given. My local non league side can do that. Anyone above us is a more efficient footballing unit. Definition of a better footballing side depends on your view. For me though it’s a bit simplistic, score more goals than the opposition on a regular basis. If the EFL start dishing out points for artistic impression I’ll change my mind
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Its not arrogance when even they admit we were the better team and it was smash and grab
 
better days

better days

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Grendel said:
They looked like a team that’s only lost 2 this year - we looked like a team that’s won 2 home games this year
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The final league table doesn't often lie
We've done much better than most of us expected
But perhaps we could have been a bit more adventurous at times
Especially with subs which were too often of a defensive nature
Hopefully next season we'll have the confidence to go for it more often
 
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cc84cov

cc84cov

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better days said:
The final league table doesn't often lie
We've done much better than most of expected
But perhaps we could have been a bit more adventurous at times
Especially with subs which were too often of a defensive nature
Hopefully next season we'll have the confidence to go for it more often
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More adventure was needed from SISU in the January window instead we signed the Waghorn of LWB on Bidwell on a Pardew contract
 
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Macca

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PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Its not arrogance when even they admit we were the better team and it was smash and grab
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being susceptible, regularly, to not having an end product and be weak at the back does not make us better than these other teams.Depends what success looks like. We are oh so pretty but halfway down the table and they are awful with a shot at the premier league
 
Grendel

Grendel

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cc84cov said:
More adventure was needed from SISU in the January window instead we signed the Waghorn of LWB on Bidwell on a Pardew contract
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dare I ask what’s a Pardew contract
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Macca said:
I don’t get this arrogance every week that we haven’t beaten “that shit” . we have performed like a mid table team and funnily enough that’s where we end up. It seems these days that if you can pass the ball around in pretty patterns in non threatening positions then you can class yourselves as superior. That’s a given. My local non league side can do that. Anyone above us is a more efficient footballing unit. Definition of a better footballing side depends on your view. For me though it’s a bit simplistic, score more goals than the opposition on a regular basis. If the EFL start dishing out points for artistic impression I’ll change my mind
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We're not non threatening though. We created good chances yesterday. We just weren't clinical enough.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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You can obviously look at any stat to suit but over 30 games this is where we are. Like West Brom we’ve fell off a cliff - unlike them it’s our home record which has been the problem

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Grendel

Grendel

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cc84cov said:
Remember the 7 year contract Newcastle give him ? We went OTT with Bidwell as he was going to Boro but we came in and offered 3 & half years to get him here
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he’s 28 not 32 so it’s not a huge issue is it?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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cc84cov said:
Well no I agree he’s probably good at some stuff but not LWB his body type is all wrong for it
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He’s played there most of his career had a reasonable game yesterday
 
Philosorapter

Philosorapter

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Grendel said:
You can obviously look at any stat to suit but over 30 games this is where we are. Like West Brom we’ve fell off a cliff - unlike them it’s our home record which has been the problem
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Have to admit, over the last few days I have been doing some tests on this version of Glicko-2 which I am using compared to Elo.

I wouldn't say it's a cliff. Just the weightings of teams we have played.

Even Elo is saying City's ratings are steady.


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Grendel

Grendel

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Philosorapter said:
Have to admit, over the last few days I have been doing some tests on this version of Glicko-2 which I am using compared to Elo.

I wouldn't say it's a cliff. Just the weightings of teams we have played.

Even Elo is saying City's ratings are steady.


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We’ve got 17 points in 17 home games from achieving 18 in the first 6 - we’ve beaten 3 of the top 6 at home
 
Philosorapter

Philosorapter

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Grendel said:
We’ve got 17 points in 17 home games from achieving 18 in the first 6 - we’ve beaten 3 of the top 6 at home
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Yep, the stats above gives the expected win/draw/loss percentage and the result in the yellow box.

Elo is less accurate than Glicko-2. People in the chess world say the difference is up to 10%
 
SIR ERNIE

SIR ERNIE

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Rose, Fadz and Hyam are always at risk of being exposed when Sheaf is not playing. They certainly were yesterday. Sheaf has good defensive awareness and provides protection in front of them, something that Hamer for all his qualities, just doesn't have. Huddersfield set themselves up to be a strong, effective counter attacking side away from home and they looked dangerous every time they went forward.
 
Philosorapter

Philosorapter

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Just in case anyone wanted to know.

Here's the last two seasons in the Championship, with the match odds for the next match blacked out.

Edit - the issue with Elo, as well, has always been how it adds new players into a rating ladder. Glicko-2 solves this issue.

Some fun stat crunching for everyone :)

Much easier to look at graphs.



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