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Grendel

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  • Jun 18, 2016
  • #106
rupert_bear said:
Other clubs won't bother a jot my friend. It will only take one to complain and quote the rule book and the FL will have to act and if they act within their rule book the FA will back them.
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The rules clearly allow the club to move and there is no way the FA will force a deal to be signed. Wasps could say £10 million a year and we take all non gate receipts as well,

Hardly going to sanction that are they?
 

stupot07

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  • Jun 18, 2016
  • #107
Deleted member 5849 said:
Pressure from other clubs will be to keep us in the league.

Because once one falls, there's a danger they all do. Plus, other clubs in similar situations won't want to handicap themselves to a position where they openly have no negotiating power.
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Bang on. We might hate our owners and the ongoing situation, but I'm sure the football league community will be supportive, they have been so far. I'm confident the football league won't expelled us if wasps kick us out in 2 years time.

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 18, 2016
  • #108
rupert_bear said:
Other clubs won't bother a jot my friend.
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They will, because they recognise they weaken their own negotiating position otherwise. Self interest will have them support us, in all likelihood.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Jun 18, 2016
  • #109
Otis said:
Sisu have been talking and talking and talking and talking of building a new stadium for years and years and not a single brick to be seen, not a single plot of land to be found.
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apparently not relivent.
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • Jun 18, 2016
  • #110
Nor is the JR to the Ricoh negotiations particuarly if it's doomed to fail. Still didn't stop Wasps using it as an excuse. Surprised they didn't come out with the you told us you were moving line like the Higgs.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Jun 18, 2016
  • #111
SkyBlueZack said:
Nor is the JR to the Ricoh negotiations particuarly if it's doomed to fail. Still didn't stop Wasps using it as an excuse. Surprised they didn't come out with the you told us you were moving line like the Higgs.
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we cant determine what wasps say or do.

We can determine what our owners say and more importantly DO.

if Wasps, CCC and whoever else don't want to entertain us, we have a plan B just outside the city boundaries.

Let the fans know where it is and we can get behind it.
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • Jun 18, 2016
  • #112
ccfcway said:
we cant determine what wasps say or do. We can, if we create a movement against them, I think it would change their attitude.

We can determine what our owners say and more importantly DO. Again if the fans are together but SISU don't care much for bad press etc. It's more difficult with them. They just care for money. If we do NOPM the team will suffer.

if Wasps, CCC and whoever else don't want to entertain us, we have a plan B just outside the city boundaries.

Let the fans know where it is and we can get behind it. As long as it's the right capacity, and parking etc etc.
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Jun 19, 2016
  • #113
Grendel said:
Wasps throw a few meaningless crumbs on the floor to appease the masses and there is Otis gobbling them up.
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From the man who salivates at yhe mention of Tim Fisher..........
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 19, 2016
  • #114
letsallsingtogether said:
From the man who salivates at yhe mention of Tim Fisher..........
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I think it's you who goes all dewy eyed when he gives you some attention and throws a few titbits your way isn't it?
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jun 19, 2016
  • #115
CCFC said:
So do you actually want to be at the Ricoh or just consider it the lesser of two evils? All you've been doing lately is finding excuses as to why we should stay at the Ricoh and refuse to listen to anyone who tries to suggest an alternative.
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What is that alternative and do you actually believe it is achievable.
 
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Chipfat

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  • Jun 20, 2016
  • #116
Sisu are in a terrible bargaining position even if talks were to begin. They are the ones in need of favour's they need to fall into demands from the other parties.

The statement's made by parties mean nothing, Higgs, Wasps and CSF can say they will talk but they don't want to yet or ever need to unless it's makes business sense to them.

Sisu going to the FA is another sign they are struggling to get a foothold or any leverage with talks. Also Wasps will already know what Sisu need to gain grants and funding.

This is not about talks, common ground or compromising this is about who is controlling the situation and manipulating the press to suit or fit a plan. Unfortunately at the minute Sisu don't have one and areally running out of time, the question is not about talks, it's really about who so talks help.

Either way even if talks are held rejections will be the excuse for failure of agreement.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jun 20, 2016
  • #117
Chipfat said:
Sisu are in a terrible bargaining position even if talks were to begin. They are the ones in need of favour's they need to fall into demands from the other parties.

The statement's made by parties mean nothing, Higgs, Wasps and CSF can say they will talk but they don't want to yet or ever need to unless it's makes business sense to them.

Sisu going to the FA is another sign they are struggling to get a foothold or any leverage with talks. Also Wasps will already know what Sisu need to gain grants and funding.

This is not about talks, common ground or compromising this is about who is controlling the situation and manipulating the press to suit or fit a plan. Unfortunately at the minute Sisu don't have one and areally running out of time, the question is not about talks, it's really about who so talks help.

Either way even if talks are held rejections will be the excuse for failure of agreement.
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It's been pretty clear for a while that it isn't about talks, it's all about personal agendas. I have no doubt that if SISU were to walk out tomorrow and someone else took charge of the club, certain organisations would change their tune towards the club.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jun 20, 2016
  • #118
Credit to the Trust for making the effort by the way. Often derided, at least their trying to progress the situation.
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 20, 2016
  • #119
Skyblueweeman said:
Credit to the Trust for making the effort by the way. Often derided, at least their trying to progress the situation.
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Yep and that's all that myself and others are saying, you at least try to resolve the situation and while they are talking sat around a table it has to be better than statements back and forth and dodgy emails.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 20, 2016
  • #120
Skyblueweeman said:
It's been pretty clear for a while that it isn't about talks, it's all about personal agendas. I have no doubt that if SISU were to walk out tomorrow and someone else took charge of the club, certain organisations would change their tune towards the club.
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what do you base that on mate?
 

Otis

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  • Jun 20, 2016
  • #121
clint van damme said:
what do you base that on mate?
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The degree of hatred towards Sisu perhaps?
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jun 20, 2016
  • #122
clint van damme said:
what do you base that on mate?
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C'mon Clint...really? Otis summed it up on the post above.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 20, 2016
  • #123
Skyblueweeman said:
C'mon Clint...really? Otis summed it up on the post above.
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you'd think that would be the case but there's plenty think the agenda is as much anti CCFC as it is SISU.
I don't know what or who to believe anymore.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 20, 2016
  • #124
clint van damme said:
you'd think that would be the case but there's plenty think the agenda is as much anti CCFC as it is SISU.
I don't know what or who to believe anymore.
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Trust no-one, believe nothing.
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Jun 20, 2016
  • #125
Grendel said:
I think it's you who goes all dewy eyed when he gives you some attention and throws a few titbits your way isn't it?
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Keep kissing his hand and fighting his battles that's a good boy.
 
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