Grendel
Well-Known Member
Spot on. If we agree the deal on offer it will reduce the playing budget by 80%
That's fine as long as we stay in the third least occupied stadium as a percentage of capacity in the country,
So do you actually want to be at the Ricoh or just consider it the lesser of two evils? All you've been doing lately is finding excuses as to why we should stay at the Ricoh and refuse to listen to anyone who tries to suggest an alternative.
I think being realistic on the options available to us it only leaves the Ricoh. Unless there really is another option we need to go all out to get the best deal we can.
What's the point of suggesting an alternative if it's not being progressed.So do you actually want to be at the Ricoh or just consider it the lesser of two evils? All you've been doing lately is finding excuses as to why we should stay at the Ricoh and refuse to listen to anyone who tries to suggest an alternative.
Maybe we should be pressing the people involved to make progress on that then, what we actually want. Instead of encouraging them to enter a deal we don't want but feel forced into.What's the point of suggesting an alternative if it's not being progressed.
What's the point of suggesting an alternative if it's not being progressed.
Obviously we all want our own 30,000 stadium in the town centre but it ain't gonna happen.
The Ricoh is all we are left with so that's where we should stay.
Yes it's on hold but we have 2 years to get the Legals out the way, put the new stadium on hold for 10 years and get the best long term deal we can.
There is no deal as - if you are connected as you pretend to be - you well know.
Llb
The truth is you'd urinate on Jimmy Hills ashes if Eastwood told you to and then come on here and say you were fertilising the earth,
Only the totally deluded listen to you.
You are finished regarding any credibility on this issue.
They cross your palm with silver and you do their bidding.
Totally agree.
Now of course I will be called a Wasps fan and right up their arse!
The Ricoh is all we have.
the sooner we can as fans start to think what ( if anything ) we can do going forward.
I refuse to listen to anyone who tries to suggest an alternative?So do you actually want to be at the Ricoh or just consider it the lesser of two evils? All you've been doing lately is finding excuses as to why we should stay at the Ricoh and refuse to listen to anyone who tries to suggest an alternative.
Suicide?
I refuse to listen to anyone who tries to suggest an alternative?
Really? Really??
Would very much appreciate it if you can show me where I have refused to listen to anyone.
So do you actually want to be at the Ricoh or just consider it the lesser of two evils? All you've been doing lately is finding excuses as to why we should stay at the Ricoh and refuse to listen to anyone who tries to suggest an alternative.
Llb
The truth is you'd urinate on Jimmy Hills ashes if Eastwood told you to and then come on here and say you were fertilising the earth,
Only the totally deluded listen to you.
You are finished regarding any credibility on this issue.
They cross your palm with silver and you do their bidding.
It is amazing that someone with such self proclaimed negotiation skills doesn't want people to talk. Surely step one of a negotiation is start talking?
As for pushing our owners to do the alternatives to the Ricoh has a section of our fan base been in a coma for the last three years or have you all just turned into RFC?
If SISU come up with a solid, tangible plan there might be something to push our owners for. So far the BPA arena has just been the same wind and waffle we've had for three years. TF and CA can't even seem to get there stories straight.
Its as if they don't have a clear plan or strategy in place and there are unresolved disagreements at board level.
Who is She?Only a moron would ever think decisions are signed off by anyone other than one person.
What I think is interesting is that often when one SISU/ARVO person pipes up there is a contradictory media statement from one of the others shortly after.
Its as if they don't have a clear plan or strategy in place and there are unresolved disagreements at board level. :troll:
Quiet obvious to me TF and CA have been out manoeuvred and hamstrung by Sepalla's obsession with the law courts. Football League rules dictate all member clubs must have a10 year minimum plan on where they play their matches. Looks to me the FL have hardened up and put pressure on ccfc to come up with acceptable proposals so I believe it is now very much over to you messrs Fisher and Anderson
I keep hearing that stuff about 10 years but I don't think I've ever found it in a published document and I've looked now & then, if you or anyone else can find a reference I'd be grateful for it.
I keep hearing that stuff about 10 years but I don't think I've ever found it in a published document and I've looked now & then, if you or anyone else can find a reference I'd be grateful for it.
I'll find it later
What Rupert keeps doing is putting hope above realism howevr. He refuses to accept a narrative that would likely have to be accepted by the football league, that would allow the football club flexibility in that commitment.
(Again, I have to emphasise this narrative isn't necessarily 'truth' or one I'd agree with, but to deny its existence is madness)
The real concern will be if they allow dispensation on the mileage rule but yes they will definitely allow the club to move out of the city. Wasps have said they have suspended talks.
Yeah, the Butts notion in theory is an excellent one. City and Cov together would be fantastic for the city and could also prove to be a threat to Wasps if proved to be a success.I don't want or need to push the Ricoh for my agenda. I am just simply a realist. I agree a new stadium would be the answer but it's just not viable in my eyes. I look at it like this.
A new stadium won't have 32k seats, agree?
A new stadium needs a shit load of money. Agree?
A new stadium will have just 23-26 matches a year. Could it host other major events like the Ricoh does?
Where is this new stadium going? Outside Coventry definitely. Is this acceptable? It depends. But not really for me under any circumstances. We are Coventry city to me and many others.
So just all in all I don't get this extra pie money and beer money with the occasional conference is worth all the effort as described above?
Happy to be proved wrong and some hard facts.
My opinion is its just not worth it making butts a much more better option but just simply not realistic but I like the idea of two Cov teams using a sporting stadium and working together.
The Butts could be done I'm pretty sure, wouldn't be without its challenges, there would be many of them to overcome. But a strong willing and desire from all sides involved and I'm sure it could be possible.Yeah, the Butts notion in theory is an excellent one. City and Cov together would be fantastic for the city and could also prove to be a threat to Wasps if proved to be a success.
In an ideal world, best thing to happen would be Sisu gone, Wasps back to London and the City taking over the Ricoh.
Yes there would be challenges but it looks better prospect to me than a long term deal at the Ricoh. I'd also support the Butts move, if there is a genuine will from all sides then the problems could be overcome.I don't want or need to push the Ricoh for my agenda. I am just simply a realist. I agree a new stadium would be the answer but it's just not viable in my eyes. I look at it like this.
A new stadium won't have 32k seats, agree?Doesn't need to be
A new stadium needs a shit load of money. Agree?Yes, which is why we'd need a change of ownership. I don't know much about how stadiums are financed but if shitty clubs like Rotherham, Brentford can do it then so can we
A new stadium will have just 23-26 matches a year. Could it host other major events like the Ricoh does? Why not?
Where is this new stadium going? Outside Coventry definitely. Is this acceptable? It depends. But not really for me under any circumstances. We are Coventry city to me and many others.Would depend on the location, distance, accessibility etc. but it isn't a requirement for me that it is within the city boundary
So just all in all I don't get this extra pie money and beer money with the occasional conference is worth all the effort as described above?
Happy to be proved wrong and some hard facts.
My opinion is its just not worth it making butts a much more better option but just simply not realistic but I like the idea of two Cov teams using a sporting stadium and working together.
You can't see us being kicked out ? Well I can. This 2+2 which is effectively 4 years was a concession to appease the situation at the time, we are halfway through and there's no land been acquired, no suitable or realistic proposal of any either and nowhere to go in my opinion. There's other things the FA, FL or both have to consider and that is pressure from other clubs not just current members of the FL either, there are a number of old established football league ex members such as Tranmere Rovers, Halifax Town plus newly wannabes all likely to be nudging the FA and FL in the ribs and asking them to work to the rule book, As said I think there is a danger of loosing this Golden Share which would mean losing our FL status and if that was to happen how far down the football pyramid could we go ?It clearly means nothing, given they have allowed a year away at six fields and a 2+2 year deal at the Ricoh. I really can't see the kicking us out of the football league even if we carry on for the next 10 years on short term contracts. We're in a very unusual position and so thr FL discretion will be used.
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Could be lower than Cov United.
pressure from other clubs
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