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Higgs vs CCFC Court Row (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Mar 26, 2014
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covspain

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  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #71
Nick said:
So what happens if the charity are found at fault? Would SISU make them pay it all or come to some "agreement"?
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SISU would claim every penny they possibly could. They batter people in court.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #72
covspain said:
SISU would claim every penny they possibly could. They batter people in court.
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Still waiting for that quote -- or have you the balls to admit you lied about that?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #73
the charity that doesn't always act like one against the football club that doesn't either
 
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covspain

New Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #74
Grendel said:
Which I am sure will be exposed in court and they will lose incurring costs.

If they win they are correct to have taken the action.

Fail to see a problem.
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So what you're saying here is that you fail to see a problem with SISU suing the charity. You either think it's right or it's wrong and it looks like you think it's right so I'm assuming you support it
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #75
covspain said:
So what you're saying here is that you fail to see a problem with SISU suing the charity. You either think it's right or it's wrong and it looks like you think it's right so I'm assuming you support it
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They are not suing they are taking counter action against a legal claim -- the courts will ultimately decide who is right and who is wrong.

Is that the best you can do?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #76
Grendel said:
The charity initiated the proceedings
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You think the counterclaim is moraly right G? Wanna put an opinion out there or just be a smug twat?
 
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diggerdaley

New Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #77
Surely Sisu have burned their boats with anything associated with Coventry ever,the very name Sisu is like a swearword now.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #78
covspain said:
So what you're saying here is that you fail to see a problem with SISU suing the charity. You either think it's right or it's wrong and it looks like you think it's right so I'm assuming you support it
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It's neither wrong nor right, it's the way things work. If you feel a charity has wronged you can you not pursue it through the courts? (that isn't me supporting SISU it's just talking about the way things are)
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #79
shmmeee said:
You think the counterclaim is moraly right G? Wanna put an opinion out there or just be a smug twat?
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What has morality to do with it? If they win they are right -- its a stupid argument to suggest otherwise.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #80
fernandopartridge said:
It's neither wrong nor right, it's the way things work. If you feel a charity has wronged you can you not pursue it through the courts? (that isn't me supporting SISU it's just talking about the way things are)
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(that isn't me supporting SISU it's just talking about the way things are)

Pop that as your signature. Might do it myself.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #81
hill83 said:
(that isn't me supporting SISU it's just talking about the way things are)

Pop that as your signature. Might do it myself.
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It won't work you will still be an apologist.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #82
£29k must be a pittance to the half shareholder in one of the most successful exhibition centres in Europe surely? Compared to a 3rd tier football club?

[puts the rod away]
 
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covspain

New Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #83
Grendel said:
They are not suing they are taking counter action against a legal claim -- the courts will ultimately decide who is right and who is wrong.

Is that the best you can do?
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That's all I need to do. I just pointed out that you support SISU's legal action (whatever you like to call it) against the charity.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #84
covspain said:
That's all I need to do. I just pointed out that you support SISU's legal action (whatever you like to call it) against the charity.
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I don't support it - its part of legal process - or are you saying charities should be above the law?
 
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covspain

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  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #85
Grendel said:
I don't support it - its part of legal process - or are you saying charities should be above the law?
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SISU don't just stumble about taking part in legal processes. They are very aggressive they attack and batter people in court. In this case a charity, a non profit making organisation which only got involved to enable the City to have a stadium to play in.
 

hill83

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  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #86
Grendel said:
I don't support it - its part of legal process - or are you saying charities should be above the law?
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Well you didn't say they are scum for doing it, or smash up a bus stop, or punch a granny. So it's quite clear to everyone here that you do in fact fully support it and will be in court by Sisus side during the proceedings. Fully dressed in cheerleader gear. Holding Fishers nutsack.
 
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lordsummerisle

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  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #87
GaryPendrysEyes said:
What are you talking about. We all know Sisu are not just defending the action but are counter-suing for 10 times costs out of spite and to bully a Coventry charity. Most normal Coventry people would be outraged by that.
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Where was the outrage when a Coventry Charity gave £6million to a failing football team to support it's millionaire owners and players?
 
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georgehudson

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #88
grendel riles, as per, about as much positive effect as . . . .
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #89
georgehudson said:
grendel riles, as per, about as much positive effect as . . . .
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Insert the attack on people for not joining in the SISU bash.

Still waiting for the quote I asked for too...
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #90
RoboCCFC90 said:
This is what I stated previously the Charity would have considered every possibility before going through with this lets just hope they come out on the positive side of things.


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When you say considered every possibility. As a charity I think if the solicitors provide the advice to sue. Then legally their are no other options for them to consider they have to do it.

(I think)
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #91
Nick said:
Insert the attack on people for not joining in the SISU bash.

Still waiting for the quote I asked for too...
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You'll get it, but in the form of a Haiku.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #92
Just waiting for a 90% now to get Bingo.

Do most people the Higgs did anything wrong? If not, nothing to worry about surely? Or am I being naive?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #93
lordsummerisle said:
Where was the outrage when a Coventry Charity gave £6million to a failing football team to support it's millionaire owners and players?
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Did they give CCFC 6 million?
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #94
dongonzalos said:
Did they give CCFC 6 million?
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Yep, for the half of ACL they own.

Got Robinson out of the shit, left everybody else in it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2014
  • #95
lordsummerisle said:
Yep, for the half of ACL they own.

Got Robinson out of the shit, left everybody else in it.
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Nothing to do with Robinson. McGinnity decided to sell the 50% stake to stave off administration which his buddy Bryan had racked up debt to achieve. Really, of all the culpable parties in this situation, the Higgs Charity isn't one of them.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2014
  • #96
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Nothing to do with Robinson. McGinnity decided to sell the 50% stake to stave off administration which his buddy Bryan had racked up debt to achieve. Really, of all the culpable parties in this situation, the Higgs Charity isn't one of them.
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How much do they want for that £6m share now?
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2014
  • #97
fernandopartridge said:
How much do they want for that £6m share now?
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I believe it was £10m


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2014
  • #98
fernandopartridge said:
How much do they want for that £6m share now?
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The deal signed with the club at the time had a pre-agreed formula that would be used for valuation of the share. It was McGinnity who got the ball rolling on this, I suggest you direct your complaints to him and the regime of the time rather than the charity which bailed out the club.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2014
  • #99
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Nothing to do with Robinson. McGinnity decided to sell the 50% stake to stave off administration which his buddy Bryan had racked up debt to achieve. Really, of all the culpable parties in this situation, the Higgs Charity isn't one of them.
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Robinson the main man behind everything the club did then, everybody else just patsys.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2014
  • #100
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The deal signed with the club at the time had a pre-agreed formula that would be used for valuation of the share. It was McGinnity who got the ball rolling on this, I suggest you direct your complaints to him and the regime of the time rather than the charity which bailed out the club.
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And should a charity apparently dedicated to the disadvantaged children of the Coventry Area be bailing out a club that had massively overspent?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2014
  • #101
stupot07 said:
I believe it was £10m
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I think you're quoting the formula price there which was of course set at the time of sale to prevent the club having to pay a huge amount if the value went up and equally prevent the charity from incurring a loss if the value went down.

Seem to recall the amount agreed when the HOT was drawn up was somewhere in the region of £4-5m.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2014
  • #102
chiefdave said:
I think you're quoting the formula price there which was of course set at the time of sale to prevent the club having to pay a huge amount if the value went up and equally prevent the charity from incurring a loss if the value went down.

Seem to recall the amount agreed when the HOT was drawn up was somewhere in the region of £4-5m.
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Wow they could have bought the Higgs share for 5 million and now we find ourselves here?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2014
  • #103
lordsummerisle said:
And should a charity apparently dedicated to the disadvantaged children of the Coventry Area be bailing out a club that had massively overspent?
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If they can make money to spend on the kids out of it then yes
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2014
  • #104
Well you wouldn't would you.



Nick said:
I can't see where he said he supports it?
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pugwash

New Member
  • Mar 27, 2014
  • #105
A couple of questions:

1) if HT win, do they automatically get costs awarded?
2) it seems a bit suspicious that Sisu's costs are precisely 10 times as much as HT's claim ... is there a multiplier cap on a countersuit? Does the countersuit amount actually mean anything at all? (ie would they only get 500 quid if that was all they could show as their own costs?)
 
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