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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,201
fernandopartridge said:
Love Hamer as a player but will be pretty annoyed if he's just led us to the garden path all summer

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Exactly my sentiments
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,202
Kingokings204 said:
so we accept 50% less than his real value. Utter madness
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His real value is whatever someone is prepared to pay. Its either that or nothing next summer. Madness would be keeping him around thinking we're billy big bollocks that can do without millions of pounds all of a sudden.

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Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,203
Kingokings204 said:
so we accept 50% less than his real value. Utter madness
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His real value is what someone buys him for
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,204
Grendel said:
His real value is what someone buys him for
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Yeah agreed but it’s not 6m is it. If it is and I’m wrong I would genuinely keep him for the last season.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,205
Kingokings204 said:
Yeah agreed but it’s not 6m is it. If it is and I’m wrong I would genuinely keep him for the last season.
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Well I’d be surprised if it’s any more than 8m
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,206
Grendel said:
His real value is what someone buys him for
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This is total rubbish, his value is different to different people. Same as a family heirloom would have a different value to you than it would have to someone outside your family.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,207
napolimp said:
This is total rubbish, his value is different to different people. Same as a family heirloom would have a different value to you than it would have to someone outside your family.
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His tangible value is what someone is willing to pay for him of course.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,208
TomRad85 said:
His real value is whatever someone is prepared to pay. Its either that or nothing next summer. Madness would be keeping him around thinking we're billy big bollocks that can do without millions of pounds all of a sudden.

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i get your point certainly but for 6m you are better off keeping the best midfielder in the league or one of who is on a modest contract compared to others and go for top 6.
He cost us 1.4m and had 3 good seasons and would be 4 seasons for a bargain.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,209
Kingokings204 said:
i get your point certainly but for 6m you are better off keeping the best midfielder in the league or one of who is on a modest contract compared to others and go for top 6.
He cost us 1.4m and had 3 good seasons and would be 4 seasons for a bargain.
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Unfortunately we don’t have the money to turn our noses up at 6m.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,210
Sick Boy said:
Unfortunately we don’t have the money to turn our noses up at 6m.
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no one in Holland is going to pay that, none of the 3 clubs that can pay that are likely to be interested
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,211
Sick Boy said:
Unfortunately we don’t have the money to turn our noses up at 6m.
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seems we have so far although admittedly I don’t know what these rejected bids were but I can’t see the club selling less than 10m with DK in charge.
Probably why robins said we might just run down the contract. There will be a cut off point and I would think that’s 10m. Is in my book anyway
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,212
napolimp said:
This is total rubbish, his value is different to different people. Same as a family heirloom would have a different value to you than it would have to someone outside your family.
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What are you on about. He’s a footballer not a Chinese vase
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,213
Kingokings204 said:
i get your point certainly but for 6m you are better off keeping the best midfielder in the league or one of who is on a modest contract compared to others and go for top 6.
He cost us 1.4m and had 3 good seasons and would be 4 seasons for a bargain.
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6 million is just a figure I plucked but considering we just got a player like MVE for 4ish I think we'd be bonkers to turn it down if it was the only show in town. Good chance we probably already have a replacement lined up but for that to happen we need him just go if that's what he really wants.

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WestEndAgro

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,214
AFCCOVENTRY said:
It’s becoming clearer it’s about money not family stuff. Our wage structure can’t get anywhere near what he wants. Other Champ clubs let alone Premiership offering double what we can.

King will do the right thing just like with Vik and drive a hard deal with any clubs. Sell Hamer now and reinvest in his position this August and then a healthy amount left over in the kitty for Robins to use next summer. We won’t need to sell anyone in that case unless they want to leave.
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Robins won't be here if we perform like yesterday.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,215
WestEndAgro said:
Robins won't be here if we perform like yesterday.
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What utter rubbish
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,216
fernandopartridge said:
Love Hamer as a player but will be pretty annoyed if he's just led us to the garden path all summer

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Don't think he's done it on purpose but it's annoyed me as well
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,217
WestEndAgro said:
Robins won't be here if we perform like yesterday.
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napolimp

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,218
Grendel said:
What are you on about. He’s a footballer not a Chinese vase
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They're saying Al-Hilal made an offer of €300 million for Mbappe, but obviously no one else would pay that. Does that mean he's worth 300 mil?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,219
napolimp said:
They're saying Al-Hilal made an offer of €300 million for Mbappe, but obviously no one else would pay that. Does that mean he's worth 300 mil?
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which has nothing to do with this conversation
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,220
Grendel said:
which has nothing to do with this conversation
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Weird way to admit you're wrong, but fair play for being the bigger person.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,221
napolimp said:
Weird way to admit you're wrong, but fair play for being the bigger person.
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You made a back to front comparison - he’s worth what someone will pay for him
 

Calista

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,222
Kingokings204 said:
He cost us 1.4m and had 3 good seasons and would be 4 seasons for a bargain.
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There's a guy called Antonio Vivaldi playing in Italy. Very composed on the ball, and we'd definitely get 4 good seasons out of him.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,223
If someone offers £8 million for a player

And another club offers £3 million

And the player will only go to the club who offers £3 million

Was the player worth £3 million or £8 million?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,224
Calista said:
There's a guy called Antonio Vivaldi playing in Italy. Very composed on the ball, and we'd definitely get 4 good seasons out of him.
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Maybe a bit too highbrow.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,225
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
If someone offers £8 million for a player

And another club offers £3 million

And the player will only go to the club who offers £3 million

Was the player worth £3 million or £8 million?
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The £3m offer would be rejected
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,226
Grendel said:
You made a back to front comparison - he’s worth what someone will pay for him
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So humble
 
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Gint11

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,227
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
If someone offers £8 million for a player

And another club offers £3 million

And the player will only go to the club who offers £3 million

Was the player worth £3 million or £8 million?
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Easy. £8 Million then. It’s irrelevant what the player chose. That club offered £8M. A player is worth what someone is willing to pay.
 
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Blind-Faith

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,228
PVA said:
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Doesn’t get old this GIF, does it?
 
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steve cooper

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,229
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
If someone offers £8 million for a player

And another club offers £3 million

And the player will only go to the club who offers £3 million

Was the player worth £3 million or £8 million?
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You can't really say what a footballer is worth, other than comparing what other similar players have sold for.
A club can say a price they are willing to sell the player for, and a club or clubs can say what they are willing to pay.
Vik's (notional) value is still being shown as 13m Euros on Transfer Market
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,230
Grendel said:
The £3m offer would be rejected
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And then you may risk losing him for free at the end of the players contract
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,231
We’ve seen King is a tough negotiator and will get us the best deal possible.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,232
If Hamer wants to go then the best deal for the club would be, sell him to Burnley in exchange for McNally+ cash.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,233
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
If Hamer wants to go then the best deal for the club would be, sell him to Burnley in exchange for McNally+ cash.
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Who says Burnley even want him. They've just signed a CM today.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,234
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
If Hamer wants to go then the best deal for the club would be, sell him to Burnley in exchange for McNally+ cash.
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@SBT agrees
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,235
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Not a bad idea, do you fancy being a negotiator for Doug King, if so give Doug a call.
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He's done alright so far IMO.
 
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