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shmmeee

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,096
ovduk78 said:
There's also an awful lot of people who know exactly why he wants to leave and there are at least 3 different reasons why.
It's disappointing if he wants to leave but we will get over it. Last season we had plenty who thought we should get rid after his 2nd red card, now he's worth £15m, is irreplaceable and we should retire the number 38
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Anyone who thought we should get rid last season needs to hand in their football supporter card and go support Disney on Ice or something.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,097
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Because when he goes for nothing next summer you’d need to replace him and strengthen the squad elsewhere with no extra cash.
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Assuming we don’t go up.

He dragged us to the PO final and almost all the way last season.

Fact is you won’t replace him for £3M or whatever troll fee Grendel is pretending today. He’s worth more than that to us for a season.
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,098
its a buzzard said:
Not really.

Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk
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You want a fight?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,099
shmmeee said:
Assuming we don’t go up.

He dragged us to the PO final and almost all the way last season.

Fact is you won’t replace him for £3M or whatever troll fee Grendel is pretending today. He’s worth more than that to us for a season.
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Troll fee - lol - two other people mentioned the £3m not me. He’s just overvalued and that’s it but you’d clearly get money - great business plan - lose the asset for zero but don’t worry I’m buying a lottery ticket to try and win the Euromillions

Bonkers planning
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,100
shmmeee said:
Assuming we don’t go up.

He dragged us to the PO final and almost all the way last season.

Fact is you won’t replace him for £3M or whatever troll fee Grendel is pretending today. He’s worth more than that to us for a season.
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He did, but his head has been turned by something and like Brereton Diaz once he signs his pre contract somewhere else his form would probably tail off.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,101
Covcraig@bury said:
Feyenoord
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Can't afford him
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,102
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He did, but his head has been turned by something and like Brereton Diaz once he signs his pre contract somewhere else his form would probably tail off.
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I don’t think the situations are comparable TBH.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,103
shmmeee said:
I don’t think the situations are comparable TBH.
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I would say they are. Diaz wanted to move to a Spanish club for a specific reason and those teams weren’t willing to meet Blackburn’s price.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,104
Robins alluded to certain players in the squad being concerned with the state of the squad a couple of weeks ago. I do wonder if the club hopes that the recent signings (and the now-infamous ‘10 signings’ comment) can persuade Hamer that it’s worth his while to stay.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,105
SBT said:
Robins alluded to certain players in the squad being concerned with the state of the squad a couple of weeks ago. I do wonder if the club hopes that the recent signings (and the now-infamous ‘10 signings’ comment) can persuade Hamer that it’s worth his while to stay.
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You would probably need one or two more marquee signings to convince the squad never mind him.
 

SkyblueTexan

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,106
If this is still an option, let's go back to Burnley and say ok to the 8M plus 2 players and ask for McNally and Twine.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,107
SkyblueTexan said:
If this is still an option, let's go back to Burnley and say ok to the 8M plus 2 players and ask for McNally and Twine.
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I give up
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,108
Hamer hamerrrrr, don't dream it's overrr
 

Samo

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,109
SkyblueTexan said:
If this is still an option, let's go back to Burnley and say ok to the 8M plus 2 players and ask for McNally and Twine.
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But going to Burnley wouldn't solve Gus's problem would it? He wants to go back to Holland.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,110
If he does want to leave it seems like it's likely for one of two reasons.

1) He wants to play at a higher level and increase his earnings even more

That's fine. Teams at that level can afford the price we'll want for him and his wages.

2) It is domestic and he wants to move to Holland to be with his kids.

This is more problematic as it's unlikely Dutch clubs could afford those kinds of fees. So DK will have to get creative with the deal. Longer repayment terms is likely one. Having a huge sell-on clause (say 50% is another). A buy-back clause if his situation changes. Being given first dibs on some of their better talents and/or loans for any wonderkids etc.

It wouldn't be ideal but it would increase the value of the transfer from our side and allow Gus the move he wants.
 
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theferret

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,111
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Because when he goes for nothing next summer you’d need to replace him and strengthen the squad elsewhere with no extra cash.
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But it's not in our power to do anything about it (if the stories of him wanting to go home are true). If he wants to run out his contract, he can, there is fuck all we can do.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,112
I absolutely would not begrudge him wanting to be closer to his kids. Gonna be difficult as I can't see any Dutch team paying what we would want.

It is very suspicious that there have been so few bids from bigger UK based teams. He was, for a lot of people, the standout midfielder in the Championship last season and the natural progression would be a move to the Prem. Very odd there has been so little noise on that front. Feels to me like he has told his agent to make it known he wants to go back home.

If it is that then I really hope there can be a resolution, something creative that allows him more time off to travel home maybe?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,113
theferret said:
But it's not in our power to do anything about it (if the stories of him wanting to go home are true). If he wants to run out his contract, he can, there is fuck all we can do.
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If his pressing concern is to be near his lad then another 12 months away isn’t the answer.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,114
SkyblueTexan said:
If this is still an option, let's go back to Burnley and say ok to the 8M plus 2 players and ask for McNally and Twine.
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They wouldn’t offer £8m without the 2 players and don’t want him
 

Alkhen

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,115
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If his pressing concern is to be near his lad then another 12 months away isn’t the answer.
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No but long term that's probably his best chance to play for Feyenoord.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,116
Alkhen said:
No but long term that's probably his best chance to play for Feyenoord.
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Do Feyenoord even want him?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,117
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Do Feyenoord even want him?
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That seems irrelevant along with all the other holes in this theory that’s been dreamt up on here
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,118
Grendel said:
That seems irrelevant along with all the other holes in this theory that’s been dreamt up on here
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The answer to this whole scenario depends on what Hamer’s reasons are and nobody seems to know for sure.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,119
Strange to have two players who don't want to play in the prem.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,120
wingy said:
Strange to have two players who don't want to play in the prem.
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They’d have to bid first!
 
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theferret

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,121
Grendel said:
That seems irrelevant along with all the other holes in this theory that’s been dreamt up on here
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What would you do? On the one hand, you're shouting down those advocating that we let him play out his contract, for perfectly understandable reasons, but you're also acknowledging he's not worth very much right now and that we wouldn't make much from a sale - all while completely ignoring the possibility that he might not agree to a move anyway.

Everyone here is speculating, including you, but it's apparent you don't really have any idea what the club should do in this situation and you're as bereft as the rest of us, but then maybe you do?
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,122
Badge72 said:
Or a Dutch club can’t afford to buy him now but in 12 months can give him a good enough package to go back there.
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Ajax definitely can, same for PSV. Ajax spent £10mil on Tadic when he was 29/30. If Gus goes to either of them I can see him playing for the National team within a year or two.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,123
theferret said:
What would you do? On the one hand, you're shouting down those advocating that we let him play out his contract, for perfectly understandable reasons, but you're also acknowledging he's not worth very much right now and that we wouldn't make much from a sale - all while completely ignoring the possibility that he might not agree to a move anyway.

Everyone here is speculating, including you, but it's apparent you don't really have any idea what the club should do in this situation and you're as bereft as the rest of us, but then maybe you do?
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I think his point is that something now, even if not £10-15 million, is better than nothing later.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,124
The year is 2049, climate change has rendered Britain an inhospitable barren wasteland. Hundreds of thousands have lost their homes to flooding; millions more will die of starvation as crops dwindle. A last group of humans huddle for survival in a sky blue lodge in the town once known as Ryton-on-Dunsmore, where the last known bushels of wheat are stored under armed guard. On a sunless morning, a council of elders gathers in the only room with glazed windows to decide who should receive these precious grains - who shall live, who shall die, and who shall try to rebuild the society we once knew. Their mutterings are grim and weak, the men starved of energy and hope; their dreams as thin as the wispy strands of wheat on which their destiny depends. But then one voice rises from the back of the hall with a clarion call of purpose:

“What about a swap deal with Burnley for McNally and Twine”
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,125
SBT said:
The year is 2049, climate change has rendered Britain an inhospitable barren wasteland. Hundreds of thousands have lost their homes to flooding; millions more will die of starvation as crops dwindle. A last group of humans huddle for survival in a sky blue lodge in the town once known as Ryton-on-Dunsmore, where the last known bushels of wheat are stored under armed guard. On a sunless morning, a council of elders gathers in the only room with glazed windows to decide who should receive these precious grains - who shall live, who shall die, and who shall try to rebuild the society we once knew. Their mutterings are grim and weak, the men starved of energy and hope; their dreams as thin as the wispy strands of wheat on which their destiny depends. But then one voice rises from the back of the hall with a clarion call of purpose:

“What about a swap deal with Burnley for McNally and Twine”
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I now see why you became a journalist. Pulitzer Prize stuff.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,126
theferret said:
What would you do? On the one hand, you're shouting down those advocating that we let him play out his contract, for perfectly understandable reasons, but you're also acknowledging he's not worth very much right now and that we wouldn't make much from a sale - all while completely ignoring the possibility that he might not agree to a move anyway.

Everyone here is speculating, including you, but it's apparent you don't really have any idea what the club should do in this situation and you're as bereft as the rest of us, but then maybe you do?
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I find it hard to buy into a theory he just wants to go back to Holland with no evidence to support

If the club lower their expectations I think we can find a buyer
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,127
SBT said:
The year is 2049, climate change has rendered Britain an inhospitable barren wasteland. Hundreds of thousands have lost their homes to flooding; millions more will die of starvation as crops dwindle. A last group of humans huddle for survival in a sky blue lodge in the town once known as Ryton-on-Dunsmore, where the last known bushels of wheat are stored under armed guard. On a sunless morning, a council of elders gathers in the only room with glazed windows to decide who should receive these precious grains - who shall live, who shall die, and who shall try to rebuild the society we once knew. Their mutterings are grim and weak, the men starved of energy and hope; their dreams as thin as the wispy strands of wheat on which their destiny depends. But then one voice rises from the back of the hall with a clarion call of purpose:

“What about a swap deal with Burnley for McNally and Twine”
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Kelvin Mackenzie and Richard Littlejohn would be proud - “that’s our boy”
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,128
I would like this whole situation solved by this time next week. Can’t let it become as tedious as the Vik situation.
 
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Deity

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,129
I have a ITK at Leicester who told me weeks ago they wanted Hamer, had offered him £45k a week but then got relegated and Hamer wanted to move above the championship
 
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theferret

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,130
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think his point is that something now, even if not £10-15 million, is better than nothing later.
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Fine, so we accept £3 million from Luton? Your're then in to the realms of it possibly being more sensible to keep him and having a go. Making the play offs alone is worth not far off that.

Then we have to consider that he might not want to move anyway.

What do you think is the minimum amount of 'something' we should accept?
 
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