Sky Blue Pete
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Not seen anyone happy to lose any of them just many realists dealing with the reality of following our club at this time with the current owners
Sorry but in the big scale of things I don't see keeping the 3 for the time being is such a huge financial risk as played out, particularly if any potential sale price is in the £5m region. I accept it limits options of bringing in new players, but even so I still think as a team we are better off with them than selling for £5m.
please tell me when we had owners who did,nt sell our best playersNot seen anyone happy to lose any of them just many realists dealing with the reality of following our club at this time with the current owners
I agree its a balancing act but I just don't buy into the argument that these players will all automatically lose their value in the next 12 months. They might, they might not. I just think the upside of keeping all 3 at the moment outweighs selling them. Of course, I accept if they become unsettled and push to leave then that dynamic changes, or if someone offers silly money, but as of now I think as a club we are better keeping all 3 and limiting any further transfer incomings to loans than selling them for £5m a piece.
Our wage bill must be now very close to 100% of turnover what happens when we run out of cash?
Literally no one has said that? It's a possibility that the club will however have to factor into their decision making as and when bids start coming in.
I've no idea whether you are right on turnover or not. I guess if you are correct then we might indeed need to sell, however if that was the case I'm not quite sure why we bothered with new contacts for these players, losing the club more money in the process, if the intention was always to sell this Summer. Sometimes you need to take a calculated risk. This appears to me to be the right moment for the club to do that. The potential upside of hanging onto these players for 6 more months to a year to my mind is a risk worth taking as injuries aside I believe their value will only increase.
As I pointed out though, an offer of silly money or one of the players wanting out automatically changes this situation, but as of now I think we should keep all 3.
The calculated risk has already been taken - unsustainable contracts resulting in uptick of transfer fee.I've no idea whether you are right on turnover or not. I guess if you are correct then we might indeed need to sell, however if that was the case I'm not quite sure why we bothered with new contacts for these players, losing the club more money in the process, if the intention was always to sell this Summer. Sometimes you need to take a calculated risk. This appears to me to be the right moment for the club to do that. The potential upside of hanging onto these players for 6 more months to a year to my mind is a risk worth taking as injuries aside I believe their value will only increase.
As I pointed out though, an offer of silly money or one of the players wanting out automatically changes this situation, but as of now I think we should keep all 3.
Well they would lose value. A player with 2 years is worth more than a player with 12 months as at the end of the season he goes for 0. We’re not in a position to risk that. O’Hare, Hamer and Gyokeres currently are at their best value to us.Literally no one has said that? It's a possibility that the club will however have to factor into their decision making as and when bids start coming in.
Well... depends if you think they're now at their peak or not.Well they would lose value. A player with 2 years is worth more than a player with 12 months as at the end of the season he goes for 0. We’re not in a position to risk that. O’Hare, Hamer and Gyokeres currently are at their best value to us.
Well they would lose value. A player with 2 years is worth more than a player with 12 months as at the end of the season he goes for 0. We’re not in a position to risk that. O’Hare, Hamer and Gyokeres currently are at their best value to us.
Yes it is nearly there , this is why the club was dependent on SISU putting money into the club last season and will be this season, this has not happened for a few seasonsOur wage bill must be now very close to 100% of turnover what happens when we run out of cash?
Yes it is nearly there , this is why the club was dependent on SISU putting money into the club last season and will be this season, this has not happened for a few seasons
I'm sure I saw somewhere that it was 102% or 98%... I know it surprised me and there was a 2pc difference to TO...Our wage bill must be now very close to 100% of turnover what happens when we run out of cash?
A good point. It’s more the current owners being a bank of last resort and loaning money with big interest rates although I’m told it’s only so when the club is sold their investment is secureplease tell me when we had owners who did,nt sell our best players
Glad to see it going up in line with our revenue streams which are going up season on season. This is normal.Our wage bill is upwards of £17 million
Yes it is nearly there , this is why the club was dependent on SISU putting money into the club last season and will be this season, this has not happened for a few seasons
I Don't think so IF we could hold on to them another season their value WILL increase. Shame is I think Joy will want at least 1 gone to pay off some of the interest .Well... depends if you think they're now at their peak or not.
And the EFL covid loan!I Don't think so IF we could hold on to them another season their value WILL increase. Shame is I think Joy will want at least 1 gone to pay off some of the interest .
I think it’s Interest bearing loans , I’m not sure they could do it on a equity basis anymore , as I think it’s not SISU money they have to borrow from 3rd partiesMoney in as in equity or interest bearing loans?
How exciting for the futureI think it’s Interest bearing loans , I’m not sure they could do it on a equity basis anymore , as I think it’s not SISU money they have to borrow from 3rd parties
Glad to see it going up in line with our revenue streams which are going up season on season. This is normal.
Apologies, I was in support of you. Quoted the wrong postI mean if you bothered reading my previous posts in this thread I've already said that?
I Don't think so IF we could hold on to them another season their value WILL increase. Shame is I think Joy will want at least 1 gone to pay off some of the interest .
Yes great and we have to use 17% interest loans to fund it
Grendel laughing again for some reasonI think it’s Interest bearing loans , I’m not sure they could do it on a equity basis anymore , as I think it’s not SISU money they have to borrow from 3rd parties
Can’t stand that sour faced, miserable fuck.
Chris Wilder is it?He’s had a ginormous chip on his shoulder about Cov ever since the Sheffield United ‘protest game’ on the TV, I seem to remember he took it really personally and thought it was some pre-planned agenda against Sheffield United
Good manager though
Yes great and we have to use 17% interest loans to fund it
I love people on here that put their best Martin Lewis hat on and pretend like they know the financial position of the club (@Skybluebeliever seemingly the exception however understandably can’t say too much) and recommend they sell a player etc. Non of us have a clue what is going on behind the scenes. We should let the club worry about that instead of arguing about make belief figures on here.
Accounts are not, sustainability of certain players contracts are.Accounts are make believe figures?
Accounts are make believe figures?
Do you read only the PandL headlines?
How about Cash flow statements and Balance Sheet?
For example WASPs P+L gets boosted each year from Franchise type income which they received 4 years ago
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