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mark82

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #71
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Not sure. He played 17 league games before the new year at Zwolle in 19/20 and 18 here (suspended 4 games) from what I can tell. Minutes played would be similar as he was a regular starter there too.
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Was in a condensed period though. Season started much later this year.
 

Hobo

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #72
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I didn’t post it. He has 3 goals in 18 appearances, you don’t need to name a player to suggest there’s someone who can perform better than him?
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Someone said we could do better. He might not cost that much at all out of contract and might avoid all the normal future clauses.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • May 6, 2021
  • #73
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I didn’t post it. He has 3 goals in 18 appearances, you don’t need to name a player to suggest there’s someone who can perform better than him?
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I wouldn't pay over a million but you're buying potential rather than finished article. It's the market we're shopping in. Yes, there may be others who are better that are available, but wouldn't be upset if the club decided to bring him in permanently. Think he suffered for the lack of playing time.
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2021
  • #74
Hobo said:
Someone said we could do better. He might not cost that much at all out of contract and might avoid all the normal future clauses.
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Hes under contract until 2022

Viktor Gyokeres signs new three-year Brighton deal - WeAreBrighton.com

Brighton and Hove Albion Under 23 forward Viktor Gyokeres has signed a new three year deal with the Albion following a brilliant 2018-19 campaign
www.wearebrighton.com

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better days

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2021
  • #75
Have no idea what's planned for Hamer but I suspect that whatever happens will be decided by Mark Robins

We really didn't want to lose Marc McNulty and did everything we could to keep him
After a rocky start McNulty was an ever-present and scored heaps of goals which is always going to get you noticed
But once the player made it clear he wanted to leave we did the sensible thing and got the best deal possible with the money being given to MR to reinvest

Hamer in contrast came out with all guns blazing and was being talked about in the game as a player who could possibly play at a higher level
We all know that the relentless season probably took a toll on him and after a few indifferent performances he stopped being an automatic starter
Hamer probably wasn't as important to the team as McNulty was
If there is a bidding war for him it might suit Robins & Viveash to cash in and get the best deal possible if he's allowed to reinvest the money again


It's going to be interesting
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #76
Why are people quick to question Walsh’s injuries and experience at this level, yet are happy to ignore Jodi Jones’ ACL injuries and no real experience at this level or the one below.

I don’t want to sell Hamer, but if it led to us getting Ostigard and money in return whilst getting Walsh I would really consider it
 
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Hobo

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #77
stupot07 said:
Hes under contract until 2022

Viktor Gyokeres signs new three-year Brighton deal - WeAreBrighton.com

Brighton and Hove Albion Under 23 forward Viktor Gyokeres has signed a new three year deal with the Albion following a brilliant 2018-19 campaign
www.wearebrighton.com

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I didn't realise that. Then the obvious deal would be a loan and tgat could be a good deal also.
 

Hobo

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #78
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Why are people quick to question Walsh’s injuries and experience at this level, yet are happy to ignore Jodi Jones’ ACL injuries and no real experience at this level or the one below.

I don’t want to sell Hamer, but if it led to us getting Ostigard and money in return whilst getting Walsh I would really consider it
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Jodi jones would be cheaper than Walsh. Walsh on a free might be a good punt and back up to O'Hare... but thats what it would be a punt, he would need to reduce his wages.
 

Alkhen

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2021
  • #79
I hope we can keep Hamer, I feel he will thrive with a crowd behind him. He was excellent when he first came in and with the weird season and move to a new country you cant blame him for a dip in form.

I'd happily take Gyo next season depending on cost. But can't really see how we could get Osti
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #80
Hobo said:
Jodi jones would be cheaper than Walsh. Walsh on a free might be a good punt and back up to O'Hare... but tgats what it would be a punt he would need to rexuce his wages.
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What makes you think Walsh’s wages would be high, he’s never consistently played at this level and has come off a bad injury. He’s definitely going to be in our price range.
 
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Hobo

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #81
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
What makes you think Walsh’s wages would be high, he’s never consistently played at this level and has come off a bad injury. He’s definitely going to be in our price range.
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Walsh will be on far higher wages at Bristol City than Jodi Jones renegotiating a Lge 2 contract. Both are untested at this level.
 
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stupot07

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #82
Hobo said:
Walsh will be on far higher wages at Bristol City than Jodi Jones renegotiating a Lge 2 contract. Both are untested at this level.
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100%, plus if we keep hamer, extend Kelly, sign James and Sheaf (which is an obligation), we don't need another cm in that mould.

According to this Walsh is on £6k pw

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I doubt Jones is on much more than £2k pw if that.

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SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2021
  • #83
Hobo said:
Who? And you dont even know what price we can get him for?
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We need to be setting our sights on bringing in a first choice striker and actually improving what we offer. Gyokeres is not an improvement on Godden or Walker. Whilst he’s young, he’s not exactly a baby either and I’ve not seen anything to suggest he’s going to become a star.

stupot07 said:
Blackburn paid around £1.75m for Armstrong from Newcastle, he had played more games but only scored 7 in 56 in the champions before signing permanently. Gyorkeres is 20 and already a full Swedish international. He's going to cost us at least £1.5m as you're also paying for potential.

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Respectfully, you’re fucking mental if you think Gyokeres would cost £1.5m.
 

SleepyGinger

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #84
SlowerThanPlatt said:
What’s the need to say who? It’s not wild to suggest Gyokeres isn’t the best striker we could get
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He was brought in because we needed a striker, had very limited budget and not a lot of options. Robins quickly decided he was below Biamou in the pecking order. He’s done OK towards the end of the season but I’d be suprised if he was number 1 target this summer.
 

mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2021
  • #85
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I’m of the opinion it was partly down to James’ arrival, certainly it coincides. Doesn’t take set pieces anymore and having less touches of the ball as they take up similar positions on the pitch.
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James got more minutes and set play deliveries as a result of Hamer's form dip. The fall of Hamer came first.
 
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kg82

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2021
  • #86
I wouldn’t let Hamer go. I’d like to see him next season. He was the standout player for the first half of the season this year, knows the game here now and there are other players we could improve significantly on first. Saying that, might not be up to us in the end.
 
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rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2021
  • #87
better days said:
Have no idea what's planned for Hamer but I suspect that whatever happens will be decided by Mark Robins

We really didn't want to lose Marc McNulty and did everything we could to keep him
After a rocky start McNulty was an ever-present and scored heaps of goals which is always going to get you noticed
But once the player made it clear he wanted to leave we did the sensible thing and got the best deal possible with the money being given to MR to reinvest

Hamer in contrast came out with all guns blazing and was being talked about in the game as a player who could possibly play at a higher level
We all know that the relentless season probably took a toll on him and after a few indifferent performances he stopped being an automatic starter
Hamer probably wasn't as important to the team as McNulty was
If there is a bidding war for him it might suit Robins & Viveash to cash in and get the best deal possible if he's allowed to reinvest the money again


It's going to be interesting
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We were never in the game to compete with MM and could only offer half of what Reading paid paid him, without the chunky signing on fee.
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2021
  • #88
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I didn’t post it. He has 3 goals in 18 appearances, you don’t need to name a player to suggest there’s someone who can perform better than him?
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Of course you do. You’re not allowed to pass a less than delighted opinion about someone unless you yourself are a fully qualified scout or director of football! What do you think this is, some kind of fans discussion forum????

WHO IZ BETTA THEN TELL ME
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2021
  • #89
It would depend on what we could get for him. If selling him would give us the scope to bring in 3 players, esp someone like osti, it becomes a tantalising deal. But if it only going to be enough to replace like with like I think we may as well stick with what we've got. Hopefully a rest over summer will see him back to his better form.
 

Langers70

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2021
  • #90
The only thing Rangers are missing is a bit of steel in midfield.If he got that streak back in his game he would thrive up there.Let him go...and go for Osti and a decent keeper.
 
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skybluereeve

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2021
  • #91
Anyone take Collins on a free from Luton rather than Gyo?
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 7, 2021
  • #92
skybluereeve said:
Anyone take Collins on a free from Luton rather than Gyo?
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It wouldn’t be in place of him, he would expect to be starting every game.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2021
  • #93
Think he’s gone on record saying the club have messed him about before, anyway.
 
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skybluereeve

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2021
  • #94
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Think he’s gone on record saying the club have messed him about before, anyway.
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Oh really? Must have missed that. Shame he’s decent and a different option.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2021
  • #95
Honest question - if someone else in our division signs Gyokeres in the summer, are you nervous to go up against him next season?
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2021
  • #96
SBT said:
Honest question - if someone else in our division signs Gyokeres in the summer, are you nervous to go up against him next season?
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Yes
 
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skyblueinBaku

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  • May 7, 2021
  • #97
SBT said:
Honest question - if someone else in our division signs Gyokeres in the summer, are you nervous to go up against him next season?
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I'm nervous before every game.
 
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skyblueelephant76

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2021
  • #98
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Think he’s gone on record saying the club have messed him about before, anyway.
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James Collins reveals he spoke to CCFC and why he opted for Luton We spoke to him but didn't follow up with a bid. Robins said we couldn't afford him at the time.
 
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skybluereeve

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2021
  • #99
skyblueelephant76 said:
James Collins reveals he spoke to CCFC and why he opted for Luton We spoke to him but didn't follow up with a bid. Robins said we couldn't afford him at the time.
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Argh I see thanks for that. Interesting we have looked at him though. Maybe in a better position now with no fee attached.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • May 7, 2021
  • #100
skybluereeve said:
Argh I see thanks for that. Interesting we have looked at him though. Maybe in a better position now with no fee attached.
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He's probably slightly too old for what we normally look at. Would never rule anything out but would guess it's unlikely.
 

higgs

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2021
  • #101
If Robins rates him he would be an upgrade on Max but would his wages be too much for us to match

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skyblue025

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #102
higgs said:
If Robins rates him he would be an upgrade on Max but would his wages be too much for us to match

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He's on 4k a week currently at Luton. You would hope that's within reach.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #103
skyblue025 said:
He's on 4k a week currently at Luton. You would hope that's within reach.
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That’s plenty in reach I’d assume we’d be able to double it if Robins wants him
 

higgs

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #104
Could Collins and walker play together?

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Perryccfc

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #105
The team should be built around Hamer, I wouldn’t sell him unless it was obscene money. He has serious potential to be a top top player in my opinion.
 
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