General Election 2019 thread

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  1. shmmeee

    shmmeee Well-Known Member

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    How do you boil a frog?
     
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    More importantly, 16 year olds are fucking morons.

    Joking aside, there’s a lot of science that says your decision making ability and especially the ability to see things from someone else’s POV don’t fully form until mid 20s. This drive on the left to pretend kids are adults bothers me, and it’s entirely politically motivated.
     
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    I was thinking how I could answer that post, you've done it perfectly.
     
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    I may be wrong but I don't think it's up for discussion anyway. The only amendment that's up for discussion is the date.
     
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    One thing that confused me is having the election on a Monday. I thought they were always done on Thursdays? Still yet to work out why three days makes any fucking difference.

    Winter election more likely to favour Tories IMO. Elderly may not want to get out and vote but will postal vote.

    Younger voters probably less arsed to go out into the cold and will stay home. Plus it'll be the start of Xmas party season and students may well not be in the correct place to vote at the time, as I imagine some won't realise they can't just vote anywhere in the country but have to do so at a specific polling station.
     
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    I'm voting Labour.
     
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    They brought it in for the 2014 independence referendum as it was deemed to be "their future" they were voting on.
    Don't know/care about Scottish Parliamentary elections, but they won't be allowed to vote in an election to the UK parliament.

    Woman on 5Live (Anna Foster) asked the SNP's Brexit spokesman if he knew how many EU countries allowed foreign EU nationals to vote in their general elections. He didn't know, so she enlightened him. None! "There's probably a good reason for that" she said! Top girl!
     
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    I’m voting Labour.

    Npt a massive Corbyn fan but not a massive anyone fan. The economy needs fundamental changes and we are in the middle of a climate crisis. We don’t need more business as usual from the Tories.
     
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    How many other EU countries have settled status for EU nationals?

    (genuine question. I’d have assumed we are a bit of a special case thanks to brexit)
     
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    If we just want to copy what the EU does we could have avoided all this hassle with Brexit!
     
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    I know Spain does, and France does too (but is trying to fast-track applications from UK ex-pats currently living there).
    Don't know about others, but i suspect might be the majority.
     
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    I very much doubt it. If they could choose different voting ages etc why not a completely different electoral system like PV or AV? Needs to be standardised.

    But having said that the US elections have different ways of giving out their electoral college votes for different states.
     
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    Didn’t happen obviously but more game playing from Johnson

     
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    As was my fear and why I didn't favour it. I really fear we could end up with some very shit policies in other areas due to this.
     
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    Most policies are either bad or don't happen.
     
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    Arguing about the date now. I've always been a Thursday man like my father before me and his father before him. In fact, the Tommydazzle household are Thursday through and through, always have been and always will. We will never ever vote on a Monday.
     
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    Not really, it’s the other parties looking to move goalposts to benefit themselves. Why would you allow that as government proposing bill ? Would be crazy
     
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    Because he makes a big play about wanting an election but if the representatives of the people do something he doesn’t like suddenly he doesn’t? Same as the WAB.

    It’s all political games dressed up as national interest.
     
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    After watching Despatches last night so am I and so is the wife.
     
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    Yeah, same. Labour. First time I have voted for them for a while.
     
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    It’s an election that rightly or wrongly will be about Brexit, why would you change the rules to allow millions of people to vote against you ? He’s not changing the status quo ! If he was saying all over 60s get two votes each Id understand your point shmmeee !

    Agree WAB should’ve been progressed in any event. WAB progress however was on offer in yesterday’s vote, why didn’t labour vote on that then, especially as they accepted the election vote today ??

    They’re all as bad as each other. I listed all their vested interests yesterday
     
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    I've just asked my wife if I've got any sense, she laughed. Labour it is
     
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    Maybe I’m old fashioned but I believe in winning elections because you made the best argument to the country, not because you suppressed the vote of your opposition. If Parliament passes an extension to the franchise then that should be that. Not this tin pot dictator shit.
     
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    disagree mate. As I say, other parties are trying to move away from the status quo to benefit themselves. Never even heard of MPs trying to amend who can vote right before an election
     
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    It has been confirmed that the general election will be on Thursday 12th of December. So the prime minister will be announced on Friday the 13th.

    Says it all.
     
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    not necessarily
     
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    They are and that’s their right if they can get the support of the house. Pulling bills because you don’t like the houses decision if bullshit IMO.
     
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    Not necessarily? Why is that? The shape of the moon? Nuclear war? Boris tells the truth?
     
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    Sadly for the first time in my life I probably won’t even bother voting.
     
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    Exactly how I feel mate. Totally lost faith in all politicians.
    Add the fact that this is a GE that's going to be voted solely based on brexit. Education, NHS etc will take a back seat.
    Can't be arsed with it all now.

    Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
     
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    Toss up between SNP and Labour for me.

    Depends what in each party's manifesto.
     
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    a hung parliament which would take several days to reach s conclusion
     
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    Think whatever happens Labour needs to win back a good proportion of the West of Scotland to get anywhere to tipping the balance in a General Election.
     
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    I think that they should work collaboratively to eliminate the LD’s in Scotland.... starting with Swinson.
     

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