Brighton Sky Blue
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You do realise by comparison to the US states they are a lot more stringent?
Yet the police there admit that they have lost control.
Shock at murder of Dutch lawyer in gangster case
Murder of informant's lawyer raises fears of Dutch 'narco-state'
Is that right? I suppose lawyers getting murdered isn't a problem to you.
Strange way of changing the subject as you usually do.I haven’t forgotten the time you posted a lengthy BBC article that supported my position. Thanks again for that
Being turned down isn't a rejection?
What is it then? Oh yes all because of the limits set just like I said.
Strange way of changing the subject as you usually do.
So what is this latest lie you are coming out with?
Drugs in the Netherlands isn't all about a few legalised cannabis cafes. Still the irony that cafes sell cannabis that they are buying from illegal producers.The liberal approach being to be allowed to use cannabis in pre-approved places? Cannabis should be legalised and the cartels given a kicking in the process.
I have been more for legalizing certain drugs since tests can be done on the roadside quite quickly.
But a lot would have to be put in place first. Everything legally produced in the UK? How much would be counted as a legal amount? Legal places to consume?
It is a very large list.
I have been more for legalizing certain drugs since tests can be done on the roadside quite quickly.
But a lot would have to be put in place first. Everything legally produced in the UK? How much would be counted as a legal amount? Legal places to consume?
It is a very large list.
It says the opposite of what you said. So of course it doesn't say what it does.No it doesn’t say that
You clearly have experience in this are so i am curious as to how you approach it both when you offer the position and the liaison with the Home Office (which is done as I’m sure you know via HR)
What I don’t know is if your company you have done this with a sponsorship certificate or not? When you’ve recruited does the company have a certificate?
Drugs in the Netherlands isn't all about a few legalised cannabis cafes. Still the irony that cafes sell cannabis that they are buying from illegal producers.
The liberal approach (including law enforcement and govt) to drugs was intended for cannabis not the harder drugs now being produced there.
That makes it a magnet for organized crime.
Netherlands is exporting around 19 billion euros worth of illegal drugs per year.
It says the opposite of what you said. So of course it doesn't say what it does.
Do you argue with it where it says we turn down healthcare workers even though we need them because the numbers allowed is too low?
One murdered lawyer? There has been more. How many murders of officials would you like?There is no change of subject you are famously bad at comprehension of arguments and facts. One murdered lawyer does not mean the state has failed and you are also ignoring places with considerably more relaxed legislation. How did the war on drugs fare in the USA? Trillions spent and the problem is worse.
One murdered lawyer? There has been more. How many murders of officials would you like?
You are nearly as famous as Grendel for making your own facts up.
One murdered lawyer? There has been more. How many murders of officials would you like?
You are nearly as famous as Grendel for making your own facts up.
You was totally wrong. And you made loads up. Nothing unusual for you though.I deliberately made a completely incorrect statement on skilled worker visa process which if you knew any facts at all you’d have seized on
You was totally wrong. And you made loads up. Nothing unusual for you though.
How about back to how well you say Holland has coped?Let's look at a country that has tried as hard a line on drugs as possible. It failed miserably at an enormous financial and human cost. Putting people in prison for possessing something no more harmful than tobacco should be stopped at the very least.
I have dodged nothing. Just bored of you making things up all the time when wrong. Have many better things to do with my time.No - why are you dodging my questions
I have dodged nothing. Just bored of you making things up all the time when wrong. Have many better things to do with my time.
Medicinal cannabis can be grown under licence. Can also grow hemp under licence on a commercial scale but thc levels aren't suitable for drug use. Got a friend here growing a couple of hundred hectares of hemp under licence from Hungarian govt.What I find quite absurd is that the UK is the largest exporter of legal cannabis, despite is being illegal.
Medicinal cannabis can be grown under licence. Can also grow hemp under licence on a commercial scale but thc levels aren't suitable for drug use. Got a friend here growing a couple of hundred hectares of hemp under licence from Hungarian govt.
Medicinal cannabis obviously Available on prescription in UK
After you admitted you got it wrong but then tried to make out you got it wring on purpose?
You clearly have no knowledge of the subject - if you actually admit that people might start to respect to you a bit more instead of all this windmilling and diversion nonsense
But you mentioned this after we had been talking about Holland and their problems. Then BSB tried to make out they were doing well because he has visited and has friends there.I dont know why we're harping on about Holland, my example was the recent policy change in Portugal, that has reaped the rewards. And their approach wasnt just decriminalising but changing the way users were dealt with, in terms of access to treatment, support , the language they use to describe drug use, etc.
I believe this is very different from Hollands approach.
Here's an interesting articile I read about it a couple of years ago.
Portugal’s radical drugs policy is working. Why hasn’t the world copied it?
Portugal’s radical drugs policy is working. Why hasn’t the world copied it?
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After you admitted you got it wrong but then tried to make out you got it wring on purpose?
Why don't you try and show where I am wrong? But get it right this time. As in don't say a group of people where it is stated close to half of them get turned down.
You will do anything to defend the Tories.
The war on rape and murder has also failed.It's a very complex question and although I'm in favour of decriminalisation/legalalisation I'm not sure there's a one size fits all solution.
Clearly the war on drugs has failed. Though when I say failed, the penal system in the States is an industry so locking people up for possessing small amounts of cannabis is profitable but it's crimilisinf people for minor offences while the great and the good in that country Hoover up industrial amounts of cocaine. Bill Clinton is know for it.
The war on rape and murder has also failed.
Following your logic, should we legalise them too?
Can you give me an example of a country where they've legalised either of them successfully? Or where they've legalised and taxed some kinds of rape and murder and not others? Nonsensical argument.
In many countries including some in the EU consent is not required for men to have intercourse with women
which ones?
And Fatsos point is still nonsensical.
Laws change all the time as society progresses. Rape was legal in marriage in the UK up until not that long ago, being gay was illegal.
I don't think anyone can seriously argue that legalisation of rape and murder would progress society.
I oddly had a conversation with someone on it and didn’t believe it but it’s pretty backward compared to the uk
Sex without consent is rape. So why do only eight European countries recognise this?
I think, (and this relates to the rape in marriage in the UK I was on about), that it's all about lawful definition.
So, (I think), it's not that you don't need consent but what constitutes consent isn't well defined. I might be wrong on that.
Either way, you're right, it is backward in this day and age.
It’s especially true on catholic countries like Italy and Spain which are basically feudal in their attitudes
'I'm full of fear': Woman's story exposes Italy's rape law
How about back to how well you say Holland has coped?
It hasn't been doing badly. But other countries that have been even more progressive in their outlook have done better. How is the UK doing? How about Scotland in particular?
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