skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
The unionist in Northern Ireland certainly think it about Boris. He’s deal is being labelled the betrayal deal by them.
The unionist in Northern Ireland certainly think it about Boris. He’s deal is being labelled the betrayal deal by them.By that logic, Mr Johnson does not either - as David Cameron seems to think.
Like or loath her I find Nicola Sturgeon the most accomplished politician of all the leaders. Corbyn had a terrible interview tonight imo. He seemed rattled and his calmness entirely strained and overacted. I'm looking forward to the buffoon Johnson being grilled but Andrew Neil needs to pin him down and prevent the usual waffle and sound bites. Depressing stuff really.
He was rattled and calm at the same time? It was Neil blatantly going for the sound bites and trying to play gotcha
I know what Tommy means to be fair BSB. Corbyn was trying to convey calmness (which he was reasonably successful with for a majority of the interview) but was rattled
He was asked some pretty decent questions to be fair and struggled to give clear/honest responses, partly due to Neil only really wanting straight to the point answers (Johnson will also struggle !) but also because he couldn’t.
I have to be honest here and say I agree with this on the funding of WASPI when he took too long to give an answer. But the first half on the anti Semitism claims was ridiculous from Neil. They were lazy questions that Corbyn has faced dozens of times. From where I was sat he answered them as reasonably as he could but lost his restraint in the latter part.
I look forward to seeing 15 minutes of Johnson having to defend his own racist comments.
yeah, the paying out of reserves and not really being clear that he knew the higher rate of tax (more because he was under pressure) wasn’t good. Would’ve been better to say borrow more to pay for it as it’s the right thing but couldn’t really win. He needed calling out as it’s a semi bribe really (was reactive and not in ‘costed’ manifesto)
I’ve not heard the lower income pensions tax argument point before to be fair (decent question) and the nationalisations being cost neutral is, in my view, just wrong...it would still add to government debt.
Previous nationalisations have been of loss making industries. The nationalisation of profitable enterprises could well pay back more in the long run. Our rail franchises are largely awarded to companies ultimately run by foreign, state owned rail companies, chiefly the Dutch and Germans. I just wish the whole thing was policy based rather than indulging in this portrayal of Corbyn as a pseudo Nazi
The big difference though is that the people in the Labour Party that are saying things that could/have been deemed anti-Semitic aren’t the people at the top however the person at the Top of the Tory Party is the person saying things that could/have been deemed racist and islamaphobic. That’s not a poor judgement on how to deal with other people’s behaviour, it’s poor judgement on how to behave yourself and that’s considerably worse as it should be something that you have complete personal control over.Agreed that in long run some might be profitable but there’s a massive cost (initial debt).
As I’ve said before I don’t believe Corbyn’s and anti Semite (nor do I believe Johnsons a racist) but his lack of leadership/judgment on the matter is what’s causing him issues. Neil flagged this with the fact that a female Holocaust denier (appreciate that’s maybe a touch strong but can’t recall the exact wording) just got a warning letter, then he refused to apologise for how he’s handled it (which is what will hit the headlines) Also bizarre that there were apparently candidates with questionable past comments on the stage at the unveiling of the race and faith manifesto. Not ideal when you’re trying to put an issue to bed
The backstop was invented after the vote.It wasn't though really, was it. No-one even knew what a Northern Ireland backstop was. There was no talk of differing deals.
It made it sound all so simple, when the truth was, it was nothing but simple.
The backstop was invented after the vote.
Did you vote leave or remain?But how is that possible if people knew what they were voting for?
Agreed that in long run some might be profitable but there’s a massive cost (initial debt).
As I’ve said before I don’t believe Corbyn’s and anti Semite (nor do I believe Johnsons a racist) but his lack of leadership/judgment on the matter is what’s causing him issues. Neil flagged this with the fact that a female Holocaust denier (appreciate that’s maybe a touch strong but can’t recall the exact wording) just got a warning letter, then he refused to apologise for how he’s handled it (which is what will hit the headlines) Also bizarre that there were apparently candidates with questionable past comments on the stage at the unveiling of the race and faith manifesto. Not ideal when you’re trying to put an issue to bed
Did you vote leave or remain?
People voting leave wanted to leave. People voting remain wanted to remain. It was never going to be how we left.
The EU has made it hard. Remainers have made it hard. Was any of this on the ballot paper?
I didn't say he was. He said he believed that most Jews would be voting Tory. If you are unhappy with racism and believe the Labour Party to be antisemitic and the Tories to be Islamophobic, they surely should be voting for some other party entirely.
Or is racism towards one particular race okay?
He said there was a problem with racism with both main parties.
I can't help that. You suggested Priti's comments were vile. I agree(d)Didn’t realise we were agreeing.
They need our money. We need the EU for ease of trade.How have the EU done that? Not hired useless pricks as negotiators?
...he/Labour is definitely anti-wealthy, but only in the same extreme the Tories are anti-unwealthy (let's face it they tolerate & encourage them...and feed off their efforts)Its not crap when its the truth, thats why Corbyn is being called anti semetic
Eeeuuuurrrrrgghhhhhhh!I'd love to see Boris Johnson's.
Probably notFront page news tomorrow?
They need our money. We need the EU for ease of trade.
But what has that got to do with a yes/No question?
Any chance of less remain propaganda?
all this racist bollocks. can someone please tell me what boris said that’s racist?
term racist is banded about far too easily. racist is when you hate someone purely on colour. Savid Javid not high up? surely if he believed boris was racist he would step down? Priti Patel another. How many Jews are high up in the Labour Party?
all this racist bollocks. can someone please tell me what boris said that’s racist?
term racist is banded about far too easily. racist is when you hate someone purely on colour. Savid Javid not high up? surely if he believed boris was racist he would step down? Priti Patel another. How many Jews are high up in the Labour Party?
Ah, the ‘I have brown friends’ defence.
The last leader of the Labour Party was Jewish... even that didn’t stop him being classed ‘the wrong type of Jew’
So please tell what he said that’s racist
not once did he apologise.
Watermelon smiled picaninnies
Muslim women look like burglars and postboxes
Followed by a robust defence of the latter in the Telegraph which also pays him an obscene sum to write that filth
What do you want him to apologise for?
none of that is racist. do you know what racist means? It’s a joke about religion. Some get offended but it’s not racist.
Watermelon smiled picaninnies
How?You said the EU has made it hard. I asked how.
Are you fucking serious?
Not racist?
I'm done. Ha ha
The first half of the interview was probably of benefit to Corbyn... for those who watched it. There's no way you could call him anti-semitic based on that, and he seemed genuinely hurt by the accusation. The argument of flawed process is not a great one to have to defend, and would have consequences for him as leader if substantiated later, but is the far lesser of two evils than the accusation he's an anti-semite.Agreed that in long run some might be profitable but there’s a massive cost (initial debt).
As I’ve said before I don’t believe Corbyn’s and anti Semite (nor do I believe Johnsons a racist) but his lack of leadership/judgment on the matter is what’s causing him issues. Neil flagged this with the fact that a female Holocaust denier (appreciate that’s maybe a touch strong but can’t recall the exact wording) just got a warning letter, then he refused to apologise for how he’s handled it (which is what will hit the headlines) Also bizarre that there were apparently candidates with questionable past comments on the stage at the unveiling of the race and faith manifesto. Not ideal when you’re trying to put an issue to bed
Some Tories have ther head up their own arse so far that they don't even know what racism is. So even when putting on a show to the public they make comments they shouldn't as they can't see anything wrong with it.none of that is racist. do you know what racist means? It’s a joke about religion. Some get offended but it’s not racist.
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