Would be a bit pointless to try and think up every possibility and list them all in a statement when most people would agree that any deal shouldn't harm the club long term.
"Any" covers any possibility.
Only on this forum could the idea that we "must not put the long term future of the club at risk" be something to argue about.
Wasps / ccc might not care too much about the long term future of ccfcBut wait. I thought it was very clear that it meant the indemnity.
You’re proving my point. I could argue any short term deal without another ground moving forward harms the long term future of the club. Literally no one wants a deal that harms the long term future of the club. The issue is we disagree on what deals cause what harm.
TBH it doesn’t really matter, it’s not like anyone’s going to be sat at the negotiating table going “wait, before we sign does this meet the expectations of SBT??”
It. Is. Fucking. Mental.Only on this forum could the idea that we "must not put the long term future of the club at risk" be something to argue about.
But it’s so obvious. Why mention it at all? Who is suggesting such a thing? Why would Sisu agree to it anyway?
It read to me as very much the language the club uses when talking about the indemnity, hence my original question. If it’s just meaningless filler then carry on.
At which point it would say "indemnity" then if it was just about that.
Right. So to answer my original question, “no, it’s not about the indemnity”. Great. We can all move on with our lives.
It’s reasonable to ask but I’m sure mark wasn’t and I certainly wasn’t thinking the only issue was agreeing to sign an indemnity
That’s fair comment. Wanted to build trust and respect with the club and this feels a bit like that so wanted to respond. Have some ready to go for when it’s decided where we will be playing home games from next seasonForgive my cynicism, but we've seen plenty of statements from the club before. What this does have is the extra of being joint with University of Warwick (but I would wait for a few days for everything to simmer down, before accepting all is as it seems!) and yes, I remember suggesting this was the ideal partnership a long time ago
But... I'd be happier with a forum statement that did point out we've had plenty of words over the years and yes, while encouraging, ultimately it's pointless without action.
I'd hold off on *any* response, personally, until the dust settles a little, and we get more clarity on whether what we see, is what we see.
Forgive my cynicism, but we've seen plenty of statements from the club before. What this does have is the extra of being joint with University of Warwick (but I would wait for a few days for everything to simmer down, before accepting all is as it seems!) and yes, I remember suggesting this was the ideal partnership a long time ago
But... I'd be happier with a forum statement that did point out we've had plenty of words over the years and yes, while encouraging, ultimately it's pointless without action.
I'd hold off on *any* response, personally, until the dust settles a little, and we get more clarity on whether what we see, is what we see.
Right. So to answer my original question, “no, it’s not about the indemnity”. Great. We can all move on with our lives.
You seem to be the only person who has an issue anyway
Coventry announce plans for new ground on Warwick University campus
Coventry, which has played at Sixfields, Ricoh Arena and St Andrew’s since leaving Highfield Road in 2005, has announced plans for a new groundwww.theguardian.com
"Sky Blues Talk, an online hub for Coventry supporters, welcomed the news"
BIG TIME CHARLIES
Other aspects of a bad deal could harm the long term future of the club, long time without access to sufficient funding and a poorly maintained pitch are two other factors for a start. The wording of the statement is balanced, fair and to the point. It needs to be clear, not point scoring or inflammatory.What Ricoh deal would harm the long term future of the club? Are we talking about the indemnity? Why not name it? So tired of weasel language from all sides in this. Needs transparency and clarity. Say what you mean.
Other aspects of a bad deal could harm the long term future of the club, long time without access to sufficient funding and a poorly maintained pitch are two other factors for a start. The wording of the statement is balanced, fair and to the point. It needs to be clear, not point scoring or inflammatory.
Shock, the same time there was the last statement calling out the indemnity he was the only one against it I think.
Looks like it’s now got the sky blues trust statement in there instead of sky Blues Talk. To be fair it’s very supportiveCoventry announce plans for new ground on Warwick University campus
Coventry, which has played at Sixfields, Ricoh Arena and St Andrew’s since leaving Highfield Road in 2005, has announced plans for a new groundwww.theguardian.com
"Sky Blues Talk, an online hub for Coventry supporters, welcomed the news"
BIG TIME CHARLIES
Booo. Famous for a minute though.Looks like it’s now got the sky blues trust statement in there instead of sky Blues Talk. To be fair it’s very supportive
"As supporters of Coventry City we are delighted by the joint statement from CCFC and Warwick University. It is all the more pleasing given the assurances we received earlier this year from Dave Boddy & Joy Seppala on the priority that CCFC and Sisu were placing on having a stadium of our own and their desire to have continued close relationships between the supporters, the club and the owners.
In the short term, we hope that efforts to return to the Ricoh Arena in the interim period continue to be prioritised. It remains of the utmost importance to Coventry City fans for the club to be playing in the city of Coventry during this period. We continue to expect all involved parties to continue to work towards achieving this common aim, however, if this is not possible then transparency is needed as to the reasons why an agreement has not been made. Any deal to return to the Ricoh Arena must not put the long term future of the club at risk.
We look forward to seeing further plans for the development of the stadium in the near future and we hope that this process will be carried out in collaboration with, and support from, all fans groups.
Pete Griffiths & Mark Dimmock
On behalf of the Sky Blues Talk community"
Any objections?
"As supporters of Coventry City we are delighted by the joint statement from CCFC and Warwick University. It is all the more pleasing given the assurances we received earlier this year from Dave Boddy & Joy Seppala on the priority that CCFC and Sisu were placing on having a stadium of our own and their desire to have continued close relationships between the supporters, the club and the owners.
In the short term, we hope that efforts to return to the Ricoh Arena in the interim period continue to be prioritised. It remains of the utmost importance to Coventry City fans for the club to be playing in the City of Coventry during this period. We continue to expect all involved parties to continue to work towards achieving this common aim. However, if this is not possible then transparency is needed as to the reasons why an agreement has not been reached. Any deal to return to the Ricoh Arena must not put the long term future of the club at risk.
We look forward to seeing further plans for the development of the stadium in the near future, and we hope that this process will be carried out in collaboration with, and support from, all fans groups.
Peter Griffin & Mark Dimmock
On behalf of the Sky Blues Talk community"
Just cleaning the statement up.
I am sure others could do a better job than I.
lol...but it's democracy in action Dave. Glad we have the option to give the statement a thumbs up (which I do Mark/Pete) or suggest changes. As a Trust member, I don't get a say when they put out a PR.Only on this forum could the idea that we "must not put the long term future of the club at risk" be something to argue about.
Can you see it being built so skybluebeast? It would be great to have the long term security of owning our own stadium this uncertainty every few yrs is no good for the clubThe announcement today changes nothing in the short term. The club are working hard to get us back to the Ricoh for next year and to cover the 3-5 years it will take to build this new stadium which again from what I understand is far from a smokescreen.
In all honesty Higgs yes I can. The little bits I hear come from extremely close to the club and tend not to be BS due to where they come from within the club. I also can’t see why or how Warwick Uni would allow themselves to have their reputation tarnished if this didn’t go ahead. (Although I suspect the nay sayers would say that the statement didn’t really commit to anything) The whole thing is so mutually beneficial for both parties and would allow the University to establish itself as a leading player in sports science etc from the facilities that will be made available to them.Can you see it being built so skybluebeast? It would be great to have the long term security of owning our own stadium this uncertainty every few yrs is no good for the club
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Exciting times ahead once we see the first sod being turned we deserve a home to call homeIn all honesty Higgs yes I can. The little bits I hear come from extremely close to the club and tend not to be BS due to where they come from within the club. I also can’t see why or how Warwick Uni would allow themselves to have their reputation tarnished if this didn’t go ahead. (Although I suspect the nay sayers would say that the statement didn’t really commit to anything) The whole thing is so mutually beneficial for both parties and would allow the University to establish itself as a leading player in sports science etc from the facilities that will be made available to them.
Do I have a nagging doubt that Sisu might repeat history... ofcourse old wounds die hard but I also recognise that there seems to have been a whole new approach to things the past 3/4 years. That said let’s not think this will be the clubs stadium, it will very much be Sisu’s stadium I should imagine meaning we could end up still being tenants to a third party of the club were to be sold.
I'll take that baitOnly an absolute moron would be able to disagree with that...
You have to take it in context, the statement essentially says that the short term priority should be a return to the Ricoh BUT if a return would harm the club in the long term then don’t accept it and explain the reasons to the fans. The statement didn’t solely say “don’t accept a deal that will harm the club”.I asked if that’s what it meant and thought if that’s what we want then we should mention it outright as a chance to inform people.
You may as well have put “no deals that involve Godzilla eating children” if I means what you say, which is basically nothing anyone would ever disagree with. The implication is someone is suggesting such a deal, otherwise why mention it?
Yes I agree about adding in the fact that we’ve heard about locations and plans before with no action and that this time must be differentForgive my cynicism, but we've seen plenty of statements from the club before. What this does have is the extra of being joint with University of Warwick (but I would wait for a few days for everything to simmer down, before accepting all is as it seems!) and yes, I remember suggesting this was the ideal partnership a long time ago
But... I'd be happier with a forum statement that did point out we've had plenty of words over the years and yes, while encouraging, ultimately it's pointless without action.
I'd hold off on *any* response, personally, until the dust settles a little, and we get more clarity on whether what we see, is what we see.
Is your name really Peter Griffin?"As supporters of Coventry City we are delighted by the joint statement from CCFC and Warwick University. It is all the more pleasing given the assurances we received earlier this year from Dave Boddy & Joy Seppala on the priority that CCFC and Sisu were placing on having a stadium of our own and their desire to have continued close relationships between the supporters, the club and the owners.
In the short term, we hope that efforts to return to the Ricoh Arena in the interim period continue to be prioritised. It remains of the utmost importance to Coventry City fans for the club to be playing in the City of Coventry during this period. We continue to expect all involved parties to continue to work towards achieving this common aim. However, if this is not possible then transparency is needed as to the reasons why an agreement has not been reached. Any deal to return to the Ricoh Arena must not put the long term future of the club at risk.
We look forward to seeing further plans for the development of the stadium in the near future, and we hope that this process will be carried out in collaboration with, and support from, all fans groups.
Peter Griffin & Mark Dimmock
On behalf of the Sky Blues Talk community"
Just cleaning the statement up.
I am sure others could do a better job than I.
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