Forum Statement on New Stadium Announcement (1 Viewer)
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shmmeee
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But it’s so obvious. Why mention it at all? Who is suggesting such a thing? Why would Sisu agree to it anyway?
It read to me as very much the language the club uses when talking about the indemnity, hence my original question. If it’s just meaningless filler then carry on.
shmmeee
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Literally no one is arguing with that.
Philosorapter
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The way I look at this is simple.
We can't forever be in Birmingham.
There is no progress in playing in Birmingham waiting to see what happens at the Ricoh.
This is an active start on getting the club back to Coventry.
What happens from here depends on circumstances.
This is a step forward on trying to resolve the issue.
We can't forever be in Birmingham.
There is no progress in playing in Birmingham waiting to see what happens at the Ricoh.
This is an active start on getting the club back to Coventry.
What happens from here depends on circumstances.
This is a step forward on trying to resolve the issue.
Sky Blue Pete
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Wasps / ccc might not care too much about the long term future of ccfc
And I think you’re right that no one is thinking won’t sign this if sky Blues Talk don’t want us to.
However you once said you don’t want to make one point you want to change things for the better and you’ll hear me say amen!
We need a genuine supporters voice so that Sisu and ccfc genuinely seek our views before and change their opinions from having them where they can and a build up of respect and trust both ways.
If an announcement is made this week about 5 year term back at the Ricoh then great. If it’s anything else as supporters we will want to know why.
I think it’s clear they have heard our voices by seeking this partnership. Let’s see what else is possible
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee
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It. Is. Fucking. Mental.
Every fucking thread.
Nick
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At which point it would say "indemnity" then if it was just about that.
shmmeee
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Right. So to answer my original question, “no, it’s not about the indemnity”. Great. We can all move on with our lives.
Nick
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NorthernWisdom
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Forgive my cynicism, but we've seen plenty of statements from the club before. What this does have is the extra of being joint with University of Warwick (but I would wait for a few days for everything to simmer down, before accepting all is as it seems!) and yes, I remember suggesting this was the ideal partnership a long time ago 
But... I'd be happier with a forum statement that did point out we've had plenty of words over the years and yes, while encouraging, ultimately it's pointless without action.
I'd hold off on *any* response, personally, until the dust settles a little, and we get more clarity on whether what we see, is what we see.
But... I'd be happier with a forum statement that did point out we've had plenty of words over the years and yes, while encouraging, ultimately it's pointless without action.
I'd hold off on *any* response, personally, until the dust settles a little, and we get more clarity on whether what we see, is what we see.
Sky Blue Pete
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That’s fair comment. Wanted to build trust and respect with the club and this feels a bit like that so wanted to respond. Have some ready to go for when it’s decided where we will be playing home games from next seasonForgive my cynicism, but we've seen plenty of statements from the club before. What this does have is the extra of being joint with University of Warwick (but I would wait for a few days for everything to simmer down, before accepting all is as it seems!) and yes, I remember suggesting this was the ideal partnership a long time ago
But... I'd be happier with a forum statement that did point out we've had plenty of words over the years and yes, while encouraging, ultimately it's pointless without action.
I'd hold off on *any* response, personally, until the dust settles a little, and we get more clarity on whether what we see, is what we see.
duffer
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I'm struggling to see where it's possible to pick holes in that statement, as written. It's impossible to go into all of the specifics that we might consider to be the hallmarks of a bad deal at the Ricoh, and if you tried, then it would be far too complex to be used as a press release. (And likely far too open to debate around the detail to be expressed as the single view of the fans.)
The sentiment is simple and clear - as fans we want to be back at the Ricoh whilst the new stadium is (or isn't) progressed, but not in a way that damages or restricts the club. There's no point-scoring here against Wasps, the Council or the owners, just an unambiguous statement that I would imagine most fans could line up behind.
Getting this into the press before the Trust can potential muddy the water with a pro-Wasps/pro-Council/anti-SISU polemic that divides opinion, is a good bit of work, imho.
The sentiment is simple and clear - as fans we want to be back at the Ricoh whilst the new stadium is (or isn't) progressed, but not in a way that damages or restricts the club. There's no point-scoring here against Wasps, the Council or the owners, just an unambiguous statement that I would imagine most fans could line up behind.
Getting this into the press before the Trust can potential muddy the water with a pro-Wasps/pro-Council/anti-SISU polemic that divides opinion, is a good bit of work, imho.
duffer
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Forgive my cynicism, but we've seen plenty of statements from the club before. What this does have is the extra of being joint with University of Warwick (but I would wait for a few days for everything to simmer down, before accepting all is as it seems!) and yes, I remember suggesting this was the ideal partnership a long time ago
But... I'd be happier with a forum statement that did point out we've had plenty of words over the years and yes, while encouraging, ultimately it's pointless without action.
I'd hold off on *any* response, personally, until the dust settles a little, and we get more clarity on whether what we see, is what we see.
I doubt the Trust will hold off on a response for too long, NW, as least this one has the value of making the media aware that they aren't the sole source for supporters' opinions. If for no other reason, I think that's a good reason to have got this out quickly.
ajsccfc
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Coventry announce plans for new ground on Warwick University campus
Coventry, which has played at Sixfields, Ricoh Arena and St Andrew’s since leaving Highfield Road in 2005, has announced plans for a new ground
"Sky Blues Talk, an online hub for Coventry supporters, welcomed the news"
BIG TIME CHARLIES
Grendel
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You seem to be the only person who has an issue anyway
Nick
Administrator
Shock, the same time there was the last statement calling out the indemnity he was the only one against it I think.
Nick
Administrator
Coventry announce plans for new ground on Warwick University campus
Coventry, which has played at Sixfields, Ricoh Arena and St Andrew’s since leaving Highfield Road in 2005, has announced plans for a new groundwww.theguardian.com
"Sky Blues Talk, an online hub for Coventry supporters, welcomed the news"
BIG TIME CHARLIES
capel & collindridge
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Other aspects of a bad deal could harm the long term future of the club, long time without access to sufficient funding and a poorly maintained pitch are two other factors for a start. The wording of the statement is balanced, fair and to the point. It needs to be clear, not point scoring or inflammatory.
Nick
Administrator
Which is the good thing about Pete and Mark writing stuff rather than the majority of the rest of us.
Liquid Gold
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Only an absolute moron would be able to disagree with that...
shmmeee
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Sorry boss. Can you send the acceptable opinions memo out again? Must've got stuck in the spam filter.
Fucks sake you bunch of fannies really can’t take people disagreeing with you can you? And I wasn’t even disagreeing. I misinterpreted something and was set right and said “fine”.
Glad you and Grendel got a circle jerk in about it though.
Sky Blue Pete
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Looks like it’s now got the sky blues trust statement in there instead of sky Blues Talk. To be fair it’s very supportiveCoventry announce plans for new ground on Warwick University campus
Coventry, which has played at Sixfields, Ricoh Arena and St Andrew’s since leaving Highfield Road in 2005, has announced plans for a new ground
"Sky Blues Talk, an online hub for Coventry supporters, welcomed the news"
BIG TIME CHARLIES
Esoterica
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Philosorapter
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"As supporters of Coventry City we are delighted by the joint statement from CCFC and Warwick University. It is all the more pleasing given the assurances we received earlier this year from Dave Boddy & Joy Seppala on the priority that CCFC and Sisu were placing on having a stadium of our own and their desire to have continued close relationships between the supporters, the club and the owners.
In the short term, we hope that efforts to return to the Ricoh Arena in the interim period continue to be prioritised. It remains of the utmost importance to Coventry City fans for the club to be playing in the City of Coventry during this period. We continue to expect all involved parties to continue to work towards achieving this common aim. However, if this is not possible then transparency is needed as to the reasons why an agreement has not been reached. Any deal to return to the Ricoh Arena must not put the long term future of the club at risk.
We look forward to seeing further plans for the development of the stadium in the near future, and we hope that this process will be carried out in collaboration with, and support from, all fans groups.
Peter Griffin & Mark Dimmock
On behalf of the Sky Blues Talk community"
Just cleaning the statement up.
I am sure others could do a better job than I.
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mark82
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Ta. Not had a lot of time today.
RegTheDonk
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lol...but it's democracy in action Dave. Glad we have the option to give the statement a thumbs up (which I do Mark/Pete) or suggest changes. As a Trust member, I don't get a say when they put out a PR.
skybluebeast
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The announcement today changes nothing in the short term. The club are working hard to get us back to the Ricoh for next year and to cover the 3-5 years it will take to build this new stadium which again from what I understand is far from a smokescreen.
higgs
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Can you see it being built so skybluebeast? It would be great to have the long term security of owning our own stadium this uncertainty every few yrs is no good for the club
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skybluebeast
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In all honesty Higgs yes I can. The little bits I hear come from extremely close to the club and tend not to be BS due to where they come from within the club. I also can’t see why or how Warwick Uni would allow themselves to have their reputation tarnished if this didn’t go ahead. (Although I suspect the nay sayers would say that the statement didn’t really commit to anything) The whole thing is so mutually beneficial for both parties and would allow the University to establish itself as a leading player in sports science etc from the facilities that will be made available to them.
Do I have a nagging doubt that Sisu might repeat history... ofcourse old wounds die hard but I also recognise that there seems to have been a whole new approach to things the past 3/4 years. That said let’s not think this will be the clubs stadium, it will very much be Sisu’s stadium I should imagine meaning we could end up still being tenants to a third party if the club were to be sold.
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higgs
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Exciting times ahead once we see the first sod being turned we deserve a home to call home
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Nonleagueherewecome
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I'll take that bait
I don't particularly welcome it as:
1) It's probably just to "show intent" to the EFL so we don't get in trouble with them and it's a bit naive to assume that anything will actually happen given SISU's track record with building the ground they promised us years ago. If it actually starts to happen, then I might get excited.
2) It's waaaay too small. Even if it's modular and can be expanded later, why not start a bit bigger than the 48th-52nd biggest stadium in the football league and the 4th smallest in The Championship? Bear in mind that if we stay in this division, there are lots of big clubs-and Midlands clubs-with decent away followings, so I think we'd be looking at a lot of sold out matches and lost revenue potential.
I'm not sure that by definition a forum can be making statements like this as there will always be some negative bastard like me who doesn't agree.
CanadianCCFC
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You have to take it in context, the statement essentially says that the short term priority should be a return to the Ricoh BUT if a return would harm the club in the long term then don’t accept it and explain the reasons to the fans. The statement didn’t solely say “don’t accept a deal that will harm the club”.
CanadianCCFC
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Yes I agree about adding in the fact that we’ve heard about locations and plans before with no action and that this time must be differentForgive my cynicism, but we've seen plenty of statements from the club before. What this does have is the extra of being joint with University of Warwick (but I would wait for a few days for everything to simmer down, before accepting all is as it seems!) and yes, I remember suggesting this was the ideal partnership a long time ago
But... I'd be happier with a forum statement that did point out we've had plenty of words over the years and yes, while encouraging, ultimately it's pointless without action.
I'd hold off on *any* response, personally, until the dust settles a little, and we get more clarity on whether what we see, is what we see.
