So I am wrong to know what the agenda is behind it? I could be wrong in my thinking and just being too cynical and they could be doing out of their love for CCFC and nothing else.
It is just strange that when asked about a campaign to save the academy a couple of weeks before they didn't want to know, the same with asking about promoting the Legacy Fund link to help sell some merchandise.
As for the MP's publicity, without googling can you tell me what they discussed this week in the same place they will be discussing CCFC?
So people should be shouting GO without a plan for when they do? People should be expected to boycott watching the team they have supported for years without an actual reason in how it will help or what will happen afterwards?
Not really, surely you have to wonder why are they suddenly going all out? What's behind it? Why only now?
I do not recall Nick expressing any disquiet at the news about Ryton or asking where the City would train if it were to be sold.I wish you would question some of SIS's actions in the same way.
the petition makes us feel better, the debate in the commons "might" cause seppalla some annoyance...for me the only way to hurt them is if we could expose the investors is and from what i have been told people have tried and failed....dam it we need one of them hacker people with the funny face masks
Honestly you are the most annoying poster ive ever seen, every post you write must have a question in it.
isn't that what CT did and the have been denied access to CCFC player and manager ?
That owner is a fan though. Banning the cet is the best thing that's happened imo, created much needed amunition in the sisu out campaign. Has helped unite different factions too. Can I ask you the same question I asked Nick, do you think sisu and ccfc are seperate entities ? If you do how do you separate them ?
Ironic they are therefore touting the views of a owner of another club as part of their "campaign" who also bans local media when they criticise them.
So you believe that campaigning to rid us of sisu can be done and achieved without impacting on what really is a sisu created sibsidery, Arvo, Who's sole concern is ccfc. How can that be done. Question: do you want sisu to stay or go ?
I can't actually believe given the current scenario anyone would want them to stay providing there is some form of viable alternative.
At the moment liquidation, dropping down the leagues or fan ownership appears to be the best anyone can do. If a potential buyer declared interest then that's a different matter.
This is ultimately why the councils actions are far more damaging than anyone's as the club in terms of attractiveness and appeal is nil.
People demanding twenty year deals with wasps while sisu remain in office really need to be careful what they wish for.
I don't think you have to target through CCFC though, The CT has investigative journalists, they should be investigating the companies SISU are involved in, their investors.
If we start putting them companies in a bad light then they're gonna put pressure on SISU, this would be far better than targeting through CCFC
I don't think you have to target through CCFC though, The CT has investigative journalists, they should be investigating the companies SISU are involved in, their investors.
If we start putting them companies in a bad light then they're gonna put pressure on SISU, this would be far better than targeting through CCFC
I can't actually believe given the current scenario anyone would want them to stay providing there is some form of viable alternative.
At the moment liquidation, dropping down the leagues or fan ownership appears to be the best anyone can do. If a potential buyer declared interest then that's a different matter.
This is ultimately why the councils actions are far more damaging than anyone's as the club in terms of attractiveness and appeal is nil.
People demanding twenty year deals with wasps while sisu remain in office really need to be careful what they wish for.
But that's where the CT come in, they're too busy pushing negative impact on the club, they haven't took the time to investigate alternatives, it's just laziness.Its finding out who is who which is the difficult thing. Its all nameless contributors that come together to form the fund, you would have to hack Joys computer system to find the names then put pressure on those individuals. Where's ANONYMOUS when you need them?
Is it going to be SISU actually building houses and then selling them or just getting the nod for planning and then selling the land for it?
is it going to be sisu building a new training ground and academy facility or just getting the nod to rent somewhere else ?
So you believe that campaigning to rid us of sisu can be done and achieved without impacting on what really is a sisu created sibsidery, Arvo, Who's sole concern is ccfc. How can that be done. Question: do you want sisu to stay or go ?
But any viable alternative are hardly going to shout it from the roof tops are theyI can't actually believe given the current scenario anyone would want them to stay providing there is some form of viable alternative.
At the moment liquidation, dropping down the leagues or fan ownership appears to be the best anyone can do. If a potential buyer declared interest then that's a different matter.
This is ultimately why the councils actions are far more damaging than anyone's as the club in terms of attractiveness and appeal is nil.
People demanding twenty year deals with wasps while sisu remain in office really need to be careful what they wish for.
Would you support a boycott of an FA Cup home game should we be drawn at home which you haven't pre-paid for a ticket.
well saidI don't understand the negativity towards CWR and the Telegraph in this instance. They are both doing something to try and resolve the mess we are in. They have a programme like this where people, genuine CCFC fans as far as I can make out, are asked their views on the way forward for our club and the type of model of club they would like if we ever get rid of Sisu. Several times Clive summarised what had been said and mentioned that these areas would be the basis of what would be given to Jim Cunningham before a debate about CCFC in parliament next week. For me this seems a valuable thing to do as one of the things that Seppala seems to hate is publicity. I am sure she would rather Sisu's management of our club were not discussed and publicised at all. If this programmes means that MPs have a better understanding of CCFC fans concerns before they start talking, isn't that better? As mentioned several times on the programme anyone can add to this body of opinion passed to MPs through links on Twitter and Facebook. There may have been better ways of getting fans views. However it seems that it is easy for some to snipe at those who are trying to do something to save CCFC while offering very few constructive ideas themselves.
What factions have been United?That owner is a fan though. Banning the cet is the best thing that's happened imo, created much needed amunition in the sisu out campaign. Has helped unite different factions too. Can I ask you the same question I asked Nick, do you think sisu and ccfc are seperate entities ? If you do how do you separate them ?
But any viable alternative are hardly going to shout it from the roof tops are they
It's a shame that you don't express this level of cynicism about things like having Ryton included in the RBC in the town plan. Things like that seem to just wash over you as if it will all be alright on the night. Yet you get fixated on one tiny aspect of the CT campaign. Whatever their "motive" the end game is surely just what any CCFC fan wants? You're a very odd person at times Nick.
But that's where the CT come in, they're too busy pushing negative impact on the club, they haven't took the time to investigate alternatives, it's just laziness.
It's SISUs portfolio we need to target, we need an investor to get annoyed, they don't care what we fans think. But imagine if their money men did.
Agreed. I actually feel quite angry about the boycott on the 22nd. It was the wrong game ST Holders have already paid for their tickets, tickets were already on general sale, so some would have already purchased matchday tickets. I find it a bit of a kick in the teeth for ST holders, and personally I think its going to be a bit of disaster and the crowd will still be 6k+ and not having the desired impact.As someone that'll be attending the Rochdale game.
Yes I would support a boycott a home cup fixture!
No that's why anyone with half a brain cell knew Haskell was just a publicist.
However, a serious buyer could say go to the fans trust and explain a vision and a strategy and this could be communicated if necessary anonymously.
I don't think it's difficult to see though, I've had arguments with many people on this.Been saying that for months.
You'd be supprised.What factions have been United?
You'd be supprised.
Apart from you Grendel and Torch there are other groups out there that have joined forces.
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