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Fans back in stadia by Xmas? (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Nov 17, 2020
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 15, 2020
  • #316
baldy said:
I'm not into conspiracy theories at all,I hate all that crap,plus I've said before,I know corona exists & it is a tragedy & I really am sorry if any of you have experienced it etc...I just don't quite think it's as bad as we're led to believe that's all - that's just my personal opinion
Certainly leads to a good debate anyway,sorry if I've caused offence etc PUSB
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Why would they make out its worse than it really is? Think about what you're saying
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 15, 2020
  • #317
baldy said:
I'm not into conspiracy theories at all,I hate all that crap,plus I've said before,I know corona exists & it is a tragedy & I really am sorry if any of you have experienced it etc...I just don't quite think it's as bad as we're led to believe that's all - that's just my personal opinion
Certainly leads to a good debate anyway,sorry if I've caused offence etc PUSB
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The reality is that it is worse. The excess death rate is higher than the number of official deaths from Covid. I accept that some of this may be people not seeking treatment for other conditions through fear of getting covid but we also have the long covid cases.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #318
Never has there been a more apt username than baldy.
 
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bawtryneal

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #319
Liquid Gold said:
Never has there been a more apt username than baldy.
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I could suggest some even more apt usernames but it's nearly Xmas and peace to all men !
 
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Magwitch

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #320
I know of a lady, under 50 no known health issues came home from working in a local care home with all the symptoms, cough, temperature etc, etc. collapsed and died two days later, they don’t know if it was covid related or not basically put down as heart problem, but this virus can and does attack organs sometimes a few sometimes just one. Anyone not taking this pandemic seriously are mugs.
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #321
baldy said:
I'm not into conspiracy theories at all,I hate all that crap,plus I've said before,I know corona exists & it is a tragedy & I really am sorry if any of you have experienced it etc...I just don't quite think it's as bad as we're led to believe that's all - that's just my personal opinion
Certainly leads to a good debate anyway,sorry if I've caused offence etc PUSB
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And that's the root of the problem with all of this, people think that their uneducated, uninformed personal opinion is valid when it's really not.

What are your facts that prove it's not as bad as we are led to believe? I bet you have fuck all
 
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Otis

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #322
We also know that China and Russia are vastly underreporting their cases.

It does indeed seem to be worse than it seems and only later down the line will we see the true level of devastation it has caused.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #323
Otis said:
We also know that China and Russia are vastly underreporting their cases.

It does indeed seem to be worse than it seems and only later down the line will we see the true level of devastation it has caused.
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Some seem to be missing the fact, also, that it's not as bad as it could be because we're not all doing normal things!
 
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Otis

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  • Dec 16, 2020
  • #324
Deleted member 5849 said:
Some seem to be missing the fact, also, that it's not as bad as it could be because we're not all doing normal things!
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Exactly! It is really bad now, WITH all the restrictions in place. Without them, the cases and death toll would be truly horrendous.
 
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bawtryneal

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #325
Corrado said:
what crap
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Hhmmmm !!
 
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Magwitch

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #326
Let alone allow more in the way things are going I can see the couple of thousand allowed in now being stopped.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #327
Otis said:
Exactly! It is really bad now, WITH all the restrictions in place. Without them, the cases and death toll would be truly horrendous.
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BBC News - Coronavirus: Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf says coronavirus approach 'has failed'

Coronavirus: Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf says coronavirus approach 'has failed'

Sweden has been criticised for its more relaxed approach to handling the pandemic.
www.bbc.co.uk


Sweden took much more of a lax approach and as a result, their deaths are much higher than their neighbours.
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #328
baldy said:
All this absolute insane tiering/lockdown bollocks over a virus that’s got a 98% recovery rate & since February has ‘only’ killed 300 odd people under the age of 60....it’s totally over the top
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So for every crowd of 15,000 we have only 300 would die? Sounds like a great deal
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #329
Liquid Gold said:
Never has there been a more apt username than baldy.
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Fatso?
 

hill83

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #330
mr_monkey said:
And that's the root of the problem with all of this, people think that their uneducated, uninformed personal opinion is valid when it's really not.
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Post of the year in my opinion.

While we are at it, the very second someone says it's their opinion I immediately dismiss it as nonsense not worth listening to.
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #331
hill83 said:
Post of the year in my opinion.

While we are at it, the very second someone says it's their opinion I immediately dismiss it as nonsense not worth listening to.
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If I want someone's opinion I'll give it to them
 
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Hobo

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #332
There is also growing evidence that even people who have had covid and survived are going to have some long term health issues. It leaves a lasting effect on the lungs and other organs. Increases the chances of strokes.
 
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Otis

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #333
Hobo said:
There is also growing evidence that even people who have had covid and survived are going to have some long term health issues. It leaves a lasting effect on the lungs and other organs. Increases the chances of strokes.
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Yup. Exactly that.

It is believed that it can cause long term health conditions.

We have to be very careful in using the word "recovery". That's just not dying.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 17, 2020
  • #334
Hobo said:
There is also growing evidence that even people who have had covid and survived are going to have some long term health issues. It leaves a lasting effect on the lungs and other organs. Increases the chances of strokes.
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Scary
 

Corrado

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  • Dec 18, 2020
  • #335
bawtryneal said:
Hhmmmm !!
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?? The thread was about fans being allowed back in stadiums..... Correct me if i'm wrong but have fans been let back in some areas before Xmas? Your stab in the dark percentages were just wrong
 
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Magwitch

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  • Dec 18, 2020
  • #336
If as being reported we go into a stricter lock down after Christmas could football and other sports be halted as it was last March. Northern Ireland are going into a strict lockdown from Boxing Day talk of Wales doing the same. I think it’s a definite case of wait and see anything is possible.
 

bawtryneal

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2020
  • #337
Corrado said:
?? The thread was about fans being allowed back in stadiums..... Correct me if i'm wrong but have fans been let back in some areas before Xmas? Your stab in the dark percentages were just wrong
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Okay mate. You were right and I was wrong.
Obviously at cross purposes regarding that element of the thread being about St Andrews.
Nice one.
Have a nice Xmas and PUSB.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2020
  • #338
I just hope there will be a hospital bed for me if i get Covid.
 
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Paxman II

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  • Dec 18, 2020
  • #339
fernandopartridge said:
About as likely to happen as one of your match score predictions
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LOL
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 21, 2020
  • #340
Magwitch said:
If as being reported we go into a stricter lock down after Christmas could football and other sports be halted as it was last March. Northern Ireland are going into a strict lockdown from Boxing Day talk of Wales doing the same. I think it’s a definite case of wait and see anything is possible.
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With the fixtures as congested as they are, it would only take a couple of teams to suffer outbreaks to completely screw the calendar. Who knows about European games. Given that UEFA aren't going to move Euro 2020 again on England's account, it could be a nervy few months for the FA.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2020
  • #341
Magwitch said:
If as being reported we go into a stricter lock down after Christmas could football and other sports be halted as it was last March. Northern Ireland are going into a strict lockdown from Boxing Day talk of Wales doing the same. I think it’s a definite case of wait and see anything is possible.
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Anything is possible. Best thing is to finish the season with the league standings as they are and see you next August.
 

ceetee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2020
  • #342
My daughter (mid 40s) had Covid in April. She was I'll but not bad enough to go to hospital although she did see the doctor as she was left weak and tired. She would think she was OK for a few days but then she would lose all energy and have to stay in bed for a couple of days. This cycle continued so the doctor sent her to hospital for tests. She was there all day and had several tests. She had what is now known as Long Covid and was put into a clinic programme for similar sufferers, so has been tested and monitored. She is mostly recovered but who knows what lasting damage.

Last week she felt Ill and had a temperature. She tested positive for Covid.
On BBC breakfast this morning an expert admitted that people were being reinfected

So much for herd immunity
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 21, 2020
  • #343
ceetee said:
My daughter (mid 40s) had Covid in April. She was I'll but not bad enough to go to hospital although she did see the doctor as she was left weak and tired. She would think she was OK for a few days but then she would lose all energy and have to stay in bed for a couple of days. This cycle continued so the doctor sent her to hospital for tests. She was there all day and had several tests. She had what is now known as Long Covid and was put into a clinic programme for similar sufferers, so has been tested and monitored. She is mostly recovered but who knows what lasting damage.

Last week she felt Ill and had a temperature. She tested positive for Covid.
On BBC breakfast this morning an expert admitted that people were being reinfected

So much for herd immunity
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That sounds horrendous and a similar story, though in your daughters case far worse, to someone I know.
Fingers crossed she makes a full recovery.
 
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Otis

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  • Dec 21, 2020
  • #344
Echo that. Best wishes and fingers crossed
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Dec 21, 2020
  • #345
SBT said:
With the fixtures as congested as they are, it would only take a couple of teams to suffer outbreaks to completely screw the calendar. Who knows about European games. Given that UEFA aren't going to move Euro 2020 again on England's account, it could be a nervy few months for the FA.
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need to stay out of the PPG bottom 3
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2020
  • #346
And here we go!

Millwall: Games with Bournemouth and Watford off after Covid-19 outbreak

Millwall's next two Championship fixtures against Bournemouth and Watford are postponed after an outbreak of Covid-19.
www.bbc.co.uk

Millwall's next two games are off. I'm sure their fans are furious, they hate anything to do with politics.
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2020
  • #347
I’m getting the feeling football could be knocked on the head for a while, more games are starting to get postponed because of the virus and we now have that strict lockdown in Wales what affect will that have on the Welsh teams travelling ?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2020
  • #348
SBT said:
And here we go!

Millwall: Games with Bournemouth and Watford off after Covid-19 outbreak

Millwall's next two Championship fixtures against Bournemouth and Watford are postponed after an outbreak of Covid-19.
www.bbc.co.uk

Millwall's next two games are off. I'm sure their fans are furious, they hate anything to do with politics.
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Peterborough have had 3 games called off. Their owner must unhappy, he was insisting games should go ahead no matter what last season.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 21, 2020
  • #349
chiefdave said:
Peterborough have had 3 games called off. Their owner must unhappy, he was insisting games should go ahead no matter what last season.
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Yes but he's a complete twat isn't he?
 
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edgy

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  • Dec 21, 2020
  • #350
Clubs using COVID as an excuse for a break now. Everyone is knackered. One case and they "lock the club down".
 
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