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COV

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,576
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
2002 was the chance. Blew it against Brazil by backing off at 1-0. We’d have beaten Turkey and Germany
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beckham said afterwards that we were shot mentally, bottled it and wilted in the heat v Brazil
 

COV

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,577
Evo1883 said:
Is he though ? What has he actually achieved .

Is there many England managers in the last 30 years who would have struggled to get us to that semi final in 2018 with those players and that draw ?

The route was almost too easy

He gets way too much credit for that , and not enough stick for his tactical fuck ups against Croatia and then Holland in the nations league

We lost 3 matches in the 2018 world Cup , we were bang average
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my take on that is that he has potential to be one of the great England managers, but you only get so long in that zone before you move to the ”failure” category. He needs to win something.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,578
Mucca Mad Boys said:
We’ve got to two semi-finals under Southgate. First time since 1996. Even something as small as winning the first Euros game ever. All this stuff build momentum.

We lost twice to a star-studded Belgium side who were one of the favourites to win the whole thing. Had the beaten France, they’d have won it all.

It wasn’t a particularly difficult run in, but we beat the winner of Germany’s group and even had we played Germany, I have no doubt in my mind we’d have beaten them. They looked like we did in 2010.

Luka Modric won the Ballon D’or for taking Croatia to the final, beating Denmark, Russia and ourselves en route to the final...

Southgate’s achievement in 2018 is not something to be discredited at all.
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Personally the games we won were expected , the game against Croatia which knocked us out his decision making was disastrous . His inability to react and shore up the midfield when Croatia took control cost us .

We also needed pens to beat an average Colombia
 

COV

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,579
Evo1883 said:
To be honest I've not thought about it at all .
So I wouldnt be able to give you an answer off the cuff.

There are many many many managers out there better than Gareth Southgate

Marco Rose would have been a good choice from gladbach until he signed on at dortmund , I'm not arsed about where out manager is from

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yes but if there are so many options name one?

imho we’re doomed as long as the Premier League retains its absolute dominance over the game, nobody else has a similar situation.

last English manager to win the top division?Howard Wilkinson, 1992
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,580
COV said:
yes but if there are so many options name one?

imho we’re doomed as long as the Premier League retains its absolute dominance over the game, nobody else has a similar situation.

last English manager to win the top division?Howard Wilkinson, 1992
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Honestly this isn't a reason to keep him if for example we get knocked out in the round of 16 , it's the FA's job to sift through and contact clubs / managers to try and hire the correct man .

For me Southgate isn't the correct man to get the best from these players

Now watch us win it and me look like a right c**t ...which I would love to happen
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,581
Ally McCoist on co comms, excellent
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,582
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Ally McCoist on co comms, excellent
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Feel like im saying this alot tonight and you probably disagree , I quite like him
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,583
I can never hear the Dutch anthem without expecting a rendition of "Twelve Days of Christmas"
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,584
Paul Anthony said:
I can never hear the Dutch anthem without expecting a rendition of "Twelve Days of Christmas"
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Wow , I literally just thought the same hahaha
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,585
Evo1883 said:
Feel like im saying this alot tonight and you probably disagree , I quite like him
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Oh no I think he’s excellent, been impressed whenever he did the Amazon games
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,586
Was a good player too old ally
 

TomRad85

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,587
Evo1883 said:
Feel like im saying this alot tonight and you probably disagree , I quite like him
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I like McCoist too.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,588
Could be a good game this, hope they keep this up.
 

stupot07

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,589
This is a great start. Ukraine are impressive


Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,590
baldy said:
Both channels including women on their panels,again,just to tick boxes
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Some of the most knowledgeable people around are women we’ve seen on our screens in the past couple of days.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,591
Did Ukraine get their kit from sports and soccer
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,592
The Dutch kit is one of my all time favourites, love it
 

Tommo1993

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,593
McCoist is the most bearable on TalkSPORT
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,594
What a start this has been
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,595
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The Dutch kit is one of my all time favourites, love it
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Iconic
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,596
This is how I wanted England to play, fast and aggressive
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,597
This game is fabulous
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,598
That's a good save
 

Hutch11

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,599
Great start
 

COV

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,600
this could be game of the tournament if they keep this up
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,601
Come on Ukraine! Don't mind the Dutch at all just want to see plucky Ukraine do better than those shithouse Russians.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,602
Best start to a game so far, could end up 8-7
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,603
Evo1883 said:
To be honest I've not thought about it at all .
So I wouldnt be able to give you an answer off the cuff.

There are many many many managers out there better than Gareth Southgate

Marco Rose would have been a good choice from gladbach until he signed on at dortmund , I'm not arsed about where out manager is from

Aggressive high press style
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An England manager should be English. Wasn't happy when the FA appointed Wiegman and would be equally disappointed if they went down that route again. The FA have gone on and on about English clubs not giving English coaches a chance and they go and appoint someone from Holland themselves. Personally I think it should be in the rules like it is for players. Why should it be any different?
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,604
oscillatewildly said:
Kinell mate, no need to get craptic.
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Thought that was fairly straight forward
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,605
Nick said:
What happened?
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The viewers couldn’t hear the questions properly.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,606
CJ_covblaze said:
An England manager should be English. Wasn't happy when the FA appointed Wiegman and would be equally disappointed if they went down that route again. The FA have gone on and on about English clubs not giving English coaches a chance and they go and appoint someone from Holland themselves. Personally I think it should be in the rules like it is for players. Why should it be any different?
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Southgate has done as well as any England manager since Alf Ramsey and Bobby Robson. I think some England fans are utterly deluded
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,607
CJ_covblaze said:
An England manager should be English. Wasn't happy when the FA appointed Wiegman and would be equally disappointed if they went down that route again. The FA have gone on and on about English clubs not giving English coaches a chance and they go and appoint someone from Holland themselves. Personally I think it should be in the rules like it is for players. Why should it be any different?
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Because its about success , why limit yourself
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,608
Sky Blue Pete said:
Southgate has done as well as any England manager since Alf Ramsey and Bobby Robson. I think some England fans are utterly deluded
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Well he hasn't done as well as Ramsay , no one has but i get your drift
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,609
Sky Blue Pete said:
Southgate has done as well as any England manager since Alf Ramsey and Bobby Robson. I think some England fans are utterly deluded
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Not sure it's as simple as that , we beat Panama, Tunisia, Sweden and Colombia on pens .

Lost twice to Belgium and Croatia when it mattered , we were favourites for that semi .

It was a very favourable run to the final, easiest world Cup run in my lifetime to a final for an England team at a world Cup and probably won't be as easy for a very long time

That's not deluded that's talking logically.

France as an example beat

Denmark
Uruguay
Argentina
Belgium
Croatia

Now compare and contrast
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,610
Sick Boy said:
They’re a better side than England now.
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They were 3 years ago. Not sure about now.
 
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