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Evo1883

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #176
ccfctommy said:
I find the whole 'why are we playing two DMs' question a bit puzzleing to be honest. We have four attacking players and are comfortably winning. This is how we are playing in the Euros and we have one more competitive game after this.
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And its partly why we have no chance of winning it ..Good sides will exploit us with ease
 

Hutch11

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #177
Imagine Pep as England manager with the players he'd have at his disposal , I'd fancy us to win something
This big nosed clown is far too cautious and basically boring
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #178
Christ this is boring.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #179
chiefdave said:
Christ this is boring.
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Kane’s foul was hilarious
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #180
Controlled the game and the win was never in doubt. Barely got out of first gear. Once again the next task is a much bigger one. A draw wouldn’t be the worst result in the world and a win would go a long way towards qualification even this early on.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #181
Gary Lineker who has persistently been behind the notion that this team will Challenge for trophies...has now said it may be too soon for these lions..

He knows
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #182
Evo1883 said:
Gary Lineker who has persistently been behind the notion that this team will Challenge for trophies...has now said it may be too soon for these lions..

He knows
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With the right manager perhaps. Like always we'll probably breeze qualifying and come unstuck against the first decent side in the tourney
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #183
Luke Shaw turns back towards his own goal too often, due to being so one footed. As a result, he often stops any forward momentum. We had the ball for ages at one point, so determined were we not to give the ball away, yet even though we got the ball to the edge of their box, rather than be the one who risked anything, our player would happily punt it 20 yards back, and it would end up with Maguire/Stones. Yes, we were in no danger of losing, but it feels like a lot of players have been overcoached in the one on ones to not take a player on. That's where the manager needs to allow the players off the leash. Not make them frightened of playing an attempted killer pass, or dribbling.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #184
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Luke Shaw turns back towards his own goal too often, due to being so one footed. As a result, he often stops any forward momentum. We had the ball for ages at one point, so determined were we not to give the ball away, yet even though we got the ball to the edge of their box, rather than be the one who risked anything, our player would happily punt it 20 yards back, and it would end up with Maguire/Stones. Yes, we were in no danger of losing, but it feels like a lot of players have been overcoached in the one on ones to not take a player on. That's where the manager needs to allow the players off the leash. Not make them frightened of playing an attempted killer pass, or dribbling.
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Who would u play over Shaw. I like Saka
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #185
Evo1883 said:
How anybody has us favourites for the euros in never know
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To be fair we play most if not all our games at Wembley.
 

no_loyalty

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #186
Nothing changes, England games are a borefest with Southgate in charge.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #187
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
To be fair we play most if not all our games at Wembley.
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That is an advantage agreed
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #188
Evo1883 said:
That is an advantage agreed
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Not that I disagree with you point. Based on the last few tournaments and competitive games I’d put us behind France, Portugal, Holland and Belgium. It might also be that 3 of them are in the same group, so one is likely going out.

Germany aren’t what they were and Italy are rarely backed by the bookies these days.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #189
Evo1883 said:
Gary Lineker who has persistently been behind the notion that this team will Challenge for trophies...has now said it may be too soon for these lions..

He knows
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It’s always to soon at some point it has to become the right time.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #190
Just watched a bit of the under 21’s the future is not bright there. Boothroyd is well out of his depth there. Cantwell on the bench with Brewster who hasn’t scored all season and the goalie is Sheffield utds no saver.
England have played two games and not had a shot on target.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #191
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Just watched a bit of the under 21’s the future is not bright there. Boothroyd is well out of his depth there. Cantwell on the bench with Brewster who hasn’t scored all season and the goalie is Sheffield utds no saver.
England have played two games and not had a shot on target.
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Boothroyd is terrible , he has to go , can't have young developing players under his watch
 
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ccfctommy

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #192
Evo1883 said:
And its partly why we have no chance of winning it ..Good sides will exploit us with ease
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No, not really. Remember Sancho wasnt playing today. I'm not sure what side Southgate would have else picked today.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 28, 2021
  • #193
ccfctommy said:
No, not really. Remember Sancho wasnt playing today. I'm not sure what side Southgate would have else picked today.
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Personally think at the euros we play 523
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 29, 2021
  • #194
ccfctommy said:
I find the whole 'why are we playing two DMs' question a bit puzzleing to be honest. We have four attacking players and are comfortably winning. This is how we are playing in the Euros and we have one more competitive game after this.
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It's because we don't need 2 holding midfielders against teams such as Albania. The "we're playing that way at the Euros" argument doesn't really fly as we'll need more than one system at the Euros and we'll need to work on them.


This is wear Southgate falls down on tactical ability. Nice bloke who looks good in a suit but top class manager he isn't.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 29, 2021
  • #195
Think this article (and the reaction to it) is aimed at a lot of you in this thread

Southgate should ignore England critics and stay pragmatic | Jacob Steinberg

Picking a side that is solid in the middle of the field is common sense rather than negativity – this is not fantasy football
www.theguardian.com

 
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SBAndy

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  • Mar 29, 2021
  • #196
SBT said:
Think this article (and the reaction to it) is aimed at a lot of you in this thread

Southgate should ignore England critics and stay pragmatic | Jacob Steinberg

Picking a side that is solid in the middle of the field is common sense rather than negativity – this is not fantasy football
www.theguardian.com

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I largely agree with that article, but it’s a little far fetched to claim Rice couldn’t play that holding role himself in a game where we had 75% possession. I’m also not sold on Kalvin Phillips at all. Yesterday I’d have played Rice and Mount, or even just Rice and Ward-Prowse.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 29, 2021
  • #197
SBAndy said:
I largely agree with that article, but it’s a little far fetched to claim Rice couldn’t play that holding role himself in a game where we had 75% possession. I’m also not sold on Kalvin Phillips at all. Yesterday I’d have played Rice and Mount, or even just Rice and Ward-Prowse.
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I think he was saying you can't play Rice on his own this summer, which seems fair enough to me.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 29, 2021
  • #198
The press will be the first on his back when it goes wrong, the majority of people who write in the press have no more idea about football than the average man (ex players excluded).
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Mar 29, 2021
  • #199
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Not that I disagree with you point. Based on the last few tournaments and competitive games I’d put us behind France, Portugal, Holland and Belgium. It might also be that 3 of them are in the same group, so one is likely going out.

Germany aren’t what they were and Italy are rarely backed by the bookies these days.
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I would guess the France, Germany and Portugal group will be one that puts through one of the best 3rd place teams. Having said that Hungary aren't a bad side either!
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 29, 2021
  • #200
SBT said:
Think this article (and the reaction to it) is aimed at a lot of you in this thread

Southgate should ignore England critics and stay pragmatic | Jacob Steinberg

Picking a side that is solid in the middle of the field is common sense rather than negativity – this is not fantasy football
www.theguardian.com

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Come back with this after the euros ..we will see how it stacks up

His tactics knackered us against Croatia at the world Cup and against Holland in the nations league
 
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Hutch11

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  • Mar 29, 2021
  • #201
Do we think if Germany , France or Spain have the equivalent amount of attacking talent we have they'd be playing with 2 holding midfielders against Iceland, Denmark and Albania ?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Mar 29, 2021
  • #202
CJ_covblaze said:
I would guess the France, Germany and Portugal group will be one that puts through one of the best 3rd place teams. Having said that Hungary aren't a bad side either!
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Forgot 3rd qualifies. If I recall didn’t Portugal finish 3rd in 2016? To Iceland
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 29, 2021
  • #203
Haven’t got an issue with a couple of DMs (I’d imagine these will be Rice and Henderson in the summer) if we’re four at the back....two DMs when we were playing five at the back was ridiculous !

Ps more importantly, how the fuck is Boothroyd still ‘nurturing’ our best young talent ?!!
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Mar 30, 2021
  • #204
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Forgot 3rd qualifies. If I recall didn’t Portugal finish 3rd in 2016? To Iceland
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Yep. Drew all 3 group games. Only won one game all tournament (Wales). Would certainly take dull football like their fans had then if it meant winning a tournament.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2021
  • #205
The problem isn't the players Aidy

Croatia U21 v England U21: Job is 'utterly impossible' - Boothroyd - BBC Sport
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 30, 2021
  • #206
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The problem isn't the players Aidy

Croatia U21 v England U21: Job is 'utterly impossible' - Boothroyd - BBC Sport
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What a way to fire the players up. Jesus.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2021
  • #207
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What a way to fire the players up. Jesus.
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He's begging to be fired and about time, get someone who doesn't think it's 'impossible'
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 30, 2021
  • #208
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He's begging to be fired and about time, get someone who doesn't think it's 'impossible'
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It looks like his time as manager is already over. He is talking like a dead man.

I saw an interview yesterday from a while ago. Gerrard, Lampard, and Ferdinand were saying that their focus was with their clubs and not country so they didn't have the same advantages as other teams, which is why they didn't do so well. It is really ridiculous. It should be an honour but all you ever hear are excuses. The players at the U23's have been good enough not to finish rock bottom of the group too, so he is talking shite.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 30, 2021
  • #209
Luxembourg now beating Portugal at half time lol
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 30, 2021
  • #210
My bad Portugal must have literally equalised on halftime
 
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