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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #106
tisza said:
wood a knee jerk reaction. Just throw in a fast bowler as that's what the WIndies have.
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Knee jerk sounds like his latest injury
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #107
If they can’t get Thorpe then beg Goich to come back but I would imagine he wouldn’t be popular with the players as he would cut out the sloppy shot making.
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #108
I can’t be the only one that can see Cook opening in the first Ashes test if he gets off to a solid start at Essex!?
 

tisza

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #109
We talked about lack of runs in county cricket last summer.
Stat attack - 70 batting bonus available in Div 1. No side that averaged more than 3 per game (surrey best with 41 pts but that is 7 games at the Oval!!).
6 of the 8 Div 1 sides averaged less than 2 pts per game.
Of course Div 1 sides packed with over the hill Kolpak players doesn't help either
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #110
County games were finishing on a regular basis inside 2 days, total under 200 runs in any inns.
Worrying times for red ball fans.
Red ball games played start/end of season when conditions are at their toughest!
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #111
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
County games were finishing on a regular basis inside 2 days, total under 200 runs in any inns.
Worrying times for red ball fans.
Red ball games played start/end of season when conditions are at their toughest!
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don't worry things will dramatically improve when CC starts running alongside the 100 ball tournament ............................................. money-grabbing idiots
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #112
I like Nasser Hussain's observation that the So-called next in line batsmen are moving themselves down the order in CC cricket because it is easier.eg. Denley, Roy, Vince
 

Gazolba

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #113
Went to look at the cricket score this morning, and then realized they'd already beaten us!
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #114
Read on Twitter today that Bob Willis has Sadie we need a player like Ian Bell and quite a few people said how about a player like him how about him. I think he was discarded to early but I think he has been away to long now.

There does seem to be a shortage of players coming through
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #115
tisza said:
I like Nasser Hussain's observation that the So-called next in line batsmen are moving themselves down the order in CC cricket because it is easier.eg. Denley, Roy, Vince
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I don’t hold out much hope if that’s the next three to come in.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #116
It won’t be Clarke in next as he has been stood down by the lions for some iffy behaviour
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #117
Terry Gibson's perm said:
It won’t be Clarke in next as he has been stood down by the lions for some iffy behaviour
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Oh yeah that case which has gone to a retrial, he’s not a party in the trial but they left him out whilst it’s being resolved.

From my viewing of the lions this winter no real standouts with th bat, think Duckett and Billings have been the ‘better’ of the bunch
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #118
I see the Windies captain Holder has been suspended for the 3rd Test for slow over rate, fair enough as they’ve been very slow, lucky for England really as it could have been over within 2 days!
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #119
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Oh yeah that case which has gone to a retrial, he’s not a party in the trial but they left him out whilst it’s being resolved.

From my viewing of the lions this winter no real standouts with th bat, think Duckett and Billings have been the ‘better’ of the bunch
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Neither of them are likely to pull up any trees in test cricket also another two keepers is their aim to have six keeper batsman and then a few bowlers
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #120
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Neither of them are likely to pull up any trees in test cricket also another two keepers is their aim to have six keeper batsman and then a few bowlers
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Agree, Billings continually getting in ODI squad is the same as Wood and the test squad ‘one of the boys’ you feel!
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 3, 2019
  • #121
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Oh yeah that case which has gone to a retrial, he’s not a party in the trial but they left him out whilst it’s being resolved.
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May not be party to the trial but hasn't done himself any favours. Pretty ordinary behaviour at best.
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #122
Chris Gayle back in the ODI squad. This series will show how good we really are.
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #123

Get him back on the staff!!
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #124
3rd Test- Foakes has been dropped! Can you believe it!
Disgraceful decision, Jennings back in Denly to 3.

Foakes dropped to keep in the ‘boys’!
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #125
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
3rd Test- Foakes has been dropped! Can you believe it!
Disgraceful decision, Jennings back in Denly to 3.

Foakes dropped to keep in the ‘boys’!
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I would have committed the ultimate sin and dropped Buttler.
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #126
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I would have committed the ultimate sin and dropped Buttler.
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Likewise, Foakes should be keeping wicket in the first Ashes test for me.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #127
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:

Get him back on the staff!!
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The bowlers improved under him and Cooley and have gone backwards under Silverwood
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #128
All fit, my ‘guaranteed’ selections for the first Ashes test would be-

1. Burns
2.
3.
4.Root
5.Stokes
6. Bairstow
7. Foakes (k)
8. Ali
9.
10. Broad
11. Anderson
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #129
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
All fit, my ‘guaranteed’ selections for the first Ashes test would be-

1. Burns
2.
3.
4.Root
5.Stokes
6. Bairstow
7. Foakes (k)
8. Ali
9.
10. Broad
11. Anderson
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Woakes at 9 and the calls are getting louder to bring back Ian Bell I personally think his time has gone
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #130
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Woakes at 9 and the calls are getting louder to bring back Ian Bell I personally think his time has gone
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Woakes has got to sort his injury problems out and get fit for the start of the season and World Cup.

Agree on Bell, would be interesting if he did hit the ground running in div 1.... but they’d have to bat him for England at 3
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #131
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Woakes has got to sort his injury problems out and get fit for the start of the season and World Cup.

Agree on Bell, would be interesting if he did hit the ground running in div 1.... but they’d have to bat him for England at 3
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I'd love to see woakes get given a go as an opener. Too late for the ashes now though.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #132
If they don’t perform tomorrow something has to give and players like Ali put under pressure.
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #133
Terry Gibson's perm said:
If they don’t perform tomorrow something has to give and players like Ali put under pressure.
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But even if say Ali fails it’ll take something ridiculous for him to be dropped from the Ashes 11
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #134
So Jennings back in and a fit Foakes dropped.
Laughable.
Root not brave enough to drop his mates.
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
3rd Test- Foakes has been dropped! Can you believe it!
Disgraceful decision, Jennings back in Denly to 3.

Foakes dropped to keep in the ‘boys’!
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Ha. I wrote same thing but obviously didn't push post button when news came out.see above.
Time for a rethink of Root's captaincy if he isn't strong enough to rock the boat.

This current set-up likes mistreating young players after a couple of games.
Picking on a young lower order player when fault lies with top order. Jennings shouldn't be on this tour let alone back in side
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 9, 2019
  • #135
any point saying anything about Jennings performance/dismissal?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 9, 2019
  • #136
Time for Stokes to punish them
 

oucho

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  • Feb 9, 2019
  • #137
tisza said:
So Jennings back in and a fit Foakes dropped.
Laughable.
Root not brave enough to drop his mates.

Ha. I wrote same thing but obviously didn't push post button when news came out.see above.
Time for a rethink of Root's captaincy if he isn't strong enough to rock the boat.

This current set-up likes mistreating young players after a couple of games.
Picking on a young lower order player when fault lies with top order. Jennings shouldn't be on this tour let alone back in side
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Quite right. The team is crying out for a solid top order player. They have been picking such a player as a number 8 batsman, but have dropped him to pick Keaton Jennings instead, with predictable results. Perhaps a better plan would be to pick Foakes as a specialist number 3, get Bairstow to bat a 5, Stokes at 6 and Buttler at 7 for the impact, Gilchrist-style roal originally envisaged for him when he was brought back in May. Oh and find a decent opener to partner Burns; it isn't Denly by the looks of things and it sure ain't Jennings who looks about as a competent a Test opener as I do.
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 10, 2019
  • #138
Stokes saying England's batting approach and discipline hasn't changed for this Test. Maybe the England set-up is so insular they believe that nonsense - kind of like a cult.

Getting bowled out for low scores happens against good attacks etc but I don't think I've seen a series when so many wickets have been thrown away.
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Feb 10, 2019
  • #139
Jennings race was run at Test level before this test so it’s ridiculous and a waste to give him this Test perfect opportunity to have given Foakes a go at 3
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 10, 2019
  • #140
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Jennings race was run at Test level before this test so it’s ridiculous and a waste to give him this Test perfect opportunity to have given Foakes a go at 3
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Agreed.
World and his wife (apart from England selectors) know Jennings can't handle pace or movement,
Said in Sri Lanka could see Foakes at 3 - fights for his wicket and technically pretty good.
 
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