CovveeBreak
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You mean the lad who can't time a header and doesn't like to use his size?
I wonder if it's worth trying to convert him into a centre half. We all know we need another and others like Dion have shown it's possible before. I remember Clough saying something like any CF could easily play there. Simms has the height and occasionally shows pace and strength. Would be just as much of a threat from set pieces.
Don't shout me down, only a suggestion (runs to get tin hat)
Not me, backed him for absolutely ages. I'm not sure why people are so tetchy about fans forming an opinion on a player over a long period of time. There's only so many times you can watch someone play totally awful before you just have to accept it for what it is.There was people that took a dislike to him pretty early on for some reason.
The guy had a 19 goal season for us the season before last so clearly can score. It's down to the manager and coaches to get the best from him.
Thought he made some good runs off the ball when he came on, and his raw physicality does give teams something to think about. He still should have done better even today when he came on, but if Ellis Simms is our first option off the bench then we are in a very good situation in terms of strikers.
I wouldn't trust his first touch as a CBI wonder if it's worth trying to convert him into a centre half. We all know we need another and others like Dion have shown it's possible before. I remember Clough saying something like any CF could easily play there. Simms has the height and occasionally shows pace and strength. Would be just as much of a threat from set pieces.
Don't shout me down, only a suggestion (runs to get tin hat)
No one took an early dislike to him at all, that's complete hyperbole.There was people that took a dislike to him pretty early on for some reason.
The guy had a 19 goal season for us the season before last so clearly can score. It's down to the manager and coaches to get the best from him.
Some people did but that's not really the point as people do that for everyone including Haji 'Shite'. We have people who write players off before they've even signed and it fucks me right off.No one took an early dislike to him at all, that's complete hyperbole.
The fact is that people who watch and assess a player on his merits could see he couldn't jump, or control a ball, or head a ball or use his strength to his advantage.
He's a pretty poor player who had a good half a season and that's him done
Much like Mark Mcnulty.
People were posting donkey pictures after a couple of weeks! And the same for Haji, with some vile language chucked in tooNo one took an early dislike to him at all, that's complete hyperbole.
go back and read the threads from less than 2 months after he signed if you don't think people took an early disliking to him.No one took an early dislike to him at all, that's complete hyperbole.
A lot of people didn't like Rudoni to start with, basically because he wasn't O'Hare I think, which is absolutely laughable now. Another level entirely to O'Hare.People were posting donkey pictures after a couple of weeks! And the same for Haji, with some vile language chucked in too
Don't underestimate how quickly people can jump on players, or how bad the misjudgements can be.
Further to this point, I've just seen in City Unseen, Lampard talking about BTA coming back to pre season in great shape and putting in everything to improve his standards. At some point the player has to take personal responsibility. Good for BTA.As for it being down to the manager and coaches. I'm not sure what to say, total hogwash. Simms always seems to have a get out with some on here.
You might have a point if players were showing no improvement under Lampard but honestly I'm struggling to think of any more that haven't at least stayed the same. Many have improved beyond all recognition.
Simms has to want it and I'm not sure he does.
The Donkey pictures didn't start until he'd been playing for a few weeks, it was obvious to some (myself included) that he was a poor player by then.People were posting donkey pictures after a couple of weeks! And the same for Haji, with some vile language chucked in too
Don't underestimate how quickly people can jump on players, or how bad the misjudgements can be.
I wonder if it's worth trying to convert him into a centre half. We all know we need another and others like Dion have shown it's possible before. I remember Clough saying something like any CF could easily play there. Simms has the height and occasionally shows pace and strength. Would be just as much of a threat from set pieces.
Don't shout me down, only a suggestion (runs to get tin hat)
No one took an early dislike to him at all, that's complete hyperbole.
The Donkey pictures didn't start until he'd been playing for a few weeks, it was obvious to some (myself included) that he was a poor player by then.
He will only go if we can replace. Don’t see it.He will be away before the window closes.
I think he will go and we will sign a versatile forward with Obikwu moving up to be 3rd choice ST.He will only go if we can replace. Don’t see it.
Can’t see it but would be for the best for him and us.I think he will go and we will sign a versatile forward with Obikwu moving up to be 3rd choice ST.
Obikwu, needs a loan, still very raw. You can tell from Lampard comments also he’s not sure vs glowing for andrews.I think he will go and we will sign a versatile forward with Obikwu moving up to be 3rd choice ST.
I just dont get why Obikwu is still around if he was to go out on loan.Obikwu, needs a loan, still very raw. You can tell from Lampard comments also he’s not sure vs glowing for andrews.
I agree it’s probably best for ES to move for club and player, but it’s too late in day now.
Bassette and Simms go yes a forward is needed - with everything else going on don’t see it happening now.
He's been out on loan a lot, maybe they see a benefit in keeping him around the standard of players and training we have for as long possible.I just dont get why Obikwu is still around if he was to go out on loan.
Surely letting him go slightly earlier on and integrating with his loan team faster is more beneficial.
Problem is FL is not giving Simms game time and all the indications are that he doesn't want him . He's very frustrating as I think that he's got something to offer but not in this system.I don’t get why the same people writing off BTA are continuing to write off Simms. Both of them are good goal scorers and it’s a long season and he’ll get chances to prove his worth.
We’re not signing a striker with 26 championship goals for £3m. It’s a non-starter.
It’s been 4 games this season and he started in the cup and will probably score Tuesday. It’s a long season and he’ll get chances.Problem is FL is not giving Simms game time and all the indications are that he doesn't want him . He's very frustrating as I think that he's got something to offer but not in this system.
Got no axe to grind here, but although you decided after a few weeks that he was a poor player, he scored plenty of goals, and put in some great performances, especially in the cup against top opposition. He can certainly be frustrating, but I think it would be very hard to find a better backup for Haji. I realise I may be going against the grain of opinion here, but I'd be sorry to see him go.@Calista
As I said, no one was on Simm's back when he came here, he had a chance to be a fans favourite, but (again) as I said it only took a few weeks for people to realise how poor he was (he couldn't even trap a ball ffs, and still cant)
Ive no idea what your trying to prove by reposting my comments, but they make perfect sense to me.
He just has a different play style… Lampard was quite complementary of his performance post-Luton. As for his appearances v Derby and QPR, there’s not really much to read into.The City Unseen shows how much energy is put into the training sessions (which translated into that great first hour on Saturday - not harmed by the QPR defenders being less mobile than the yellow inflatables at Ryton!) ... but also showed how much less hungry for the ball that Simms is in training, and he seems a bit of an outcast. Sad for the guy but he needs to get more involved if he is to stay.
I don't think it would be as hard as some make out in all honesty. He offers very little.Got no axe to grind here, but although you decided after a few weeks that he was a poor player, he scored plenty of goals, and put in some great performances, especially in the cup against top opposition. He can certainly be frustrating, but I think it would be very hard to find a better backup for Haji. I realise I may be going against the grain of opinion here, but I'd be sorry to see him go.
I think he'll be off, shame but realistically he's going backwards and could be affecting the groupThe City Unseen shows how much energy is put into the training sessions (which translated into that great first hour on Saturday - not harmed by the QPR defenders being less mobile than the yellow inflatables at Ryton!) ... but also showed how much less hungry for the ball that Simms is in training, and he seems a bit of an outcast. Sad for the guy but he needs to get more involved if he is to stay.
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