Ellis simms (14 Viewers)

CovveeBreak

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I wonder if it's worth trying to convert him into a centre half. We all know we need another and others like Dion have shown it's possible before. I remember Clough saying something like any CF could easily play there. Simms has the height and occasionally shows pace and strength. Would be just as much of a threat from set pieces.

Don't shout me down, only a suggestion (runs to get tin hat) :)

You mean the lad who can't time a header and doesn't like to use his size?
 

TomRad85

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There was people that took a dislike to him pretty early on for some reason.

The guy had a 19 goal season for us the season before last so clearly can score. It's down to the manager and coaches to get the best from him.
Not me, backed him for absolutely ages. I'm not sure why people are so tetchy about fans forming an opinion on a player over a long period of time. There's only so many times you can watch someone play totally awful before you just have to accept it for what it is.
He should be moved on and we should be looking to improve on him as soon as it is possible to do so.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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Thought he made some good runs off the ball when he came on, and his raw physicality does give teams something to think about. He still should have done better even today when he came on, but if Ellis Simms is our first option off the bench then we are in a very good situation in terms of strikers.

Yes he did, but on one occasion he was played through and run into the penalty area but lost control of the ball, if he had kept the ball at his feet he probably would have scored and that's his problem.
 

TomRad85

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As for it being down to the manager and coaches. I'm not sure what to say, total hogwash. Simms always seems to have a get out with some on here.
You might have a point if players were showing no improvement under Lampard but honestly I'm struggling to think of any more that haven't at least stayed the same. Many have improved beyond all recognition.
Simms has to want it and I'm not sure he does.
 

Briles

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I wonder if it's worth trying to convert him into a centre half. We all know we need another and others like Dion have shown it's possible before. I remember Clough saying something like any CF could easily play there. Simms has the height and occasionally shows pace and strength. Would be just as much of a threat from set pieces.

Don't shout me down, only a suggestion (runs to get tin hat) :)
I wouldn't trust his first touch as a CB
 

fatso

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There was people that took a dislike to him pretty early on for some reason.

The guy had a 19 goal season for us the season before last so clearly can score. It's down to the manager and coaches to get the best from him.
No one took an early dislike to him at all, that's complete hyperbole.

The fact is that people who watch and assess a player on his merits could see he couldn't jump, or control a ball, or head a ball or use his strength to his advantage.

He's a pretty poor player who had a good half a season and that's him done
Much like Mark Mcnulty.
 

TomRad85

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No one took an early dislike to him at all, that's complete hyperbole.

The fact is that people who watch and assess a player on his merits could see he couldn't jump, or control a ball, or head a ball or use his strength to his advantage.

He's a pretty poor player who had a good half a season and that's him done
Much like Mark Mcnulty.
Some people did but that's not really the point as people do that for everyone including Haji 'Shite'. We have people who write players off before they've even signed and it fucks me right off.
But Simms has been here ages now, people see what they see and most now agree he's not very good, including Lampard I think.
 

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