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Transfer Rumour Ellis Simms (1 Viewer)

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sometimesDanielle

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #701
sometimesDanielle said:
Simms is the best
Better than Gyokeres

I’ll get my coat
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Better than anyone
Anyone Doug didn’t get
 

San Francisco

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #702
Skyblueweeman said:
Oh, and the Simms deal is definitely done. I dreamt I was at Ryton and helping COH with his rehabilitation and I asked about Simms and if it was true. Callum smiled and said 'I can't say a thing mate'.

But then I saw Simms walking out onto the training pitch.

It's happening lads.
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Was the window still boarded up in your dream?
 
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rob9872

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #703
bigfatronssba said:
I went to that show Think it was the same one where he ended it by saying he was raising money for abused children….to buy their silence
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Was at Warwick Arts if it was the same one.
 
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Esoterica

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #704
Ashdown said:
In Robins I trust….but this guy Simms has a lot to live up to. Not sure what he’s used to but playing for Coventry in our usual set up he is going to have to work his arse off and be ultra fit like Vik.
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Getting a top quality right wingback in is probably the most important piece of the puzzle now. Creative attacking wingbacks that are genuinely comfortable in the final third will go a long way to easing the loss of the other aspects of Gyokeres game. I know people will look more at our centre back situation but for me the wingbacks will be key to returning to a better possession based game, especially if we are looking to play 2 strikers, not the box, and therefore lighter in the middle of the park.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #705
Esoterica said:
Getting a top quality right wingback in is probably the most important piece of the puzzle now. Creative attacking wingbacks that are genuinely comfortable in the final third will go a long way to easing the loss of the other aspects of Gyokeres game. I know people will look more at our centre back situation but for me the wingbacks will be key to returning to a better possession based game, especially if we are looking to play 2 strikers, not the box, and therefore lighter in the middle of the park.
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Great point on the wing backs

We need a top RWB
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #706
Yorkshire SB said:
Comedy gold. Where are the Doug out brigade?

@fernandopartridge
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Is the deal inconsistent with there being no money until Vik is sold?

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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #707
Van Ewjik, Kitching, Latibeaudiere, McNally, Whittaker, Simms, Yates is a dream window.

Supplemented by 3 loans of quality and a Hamer contract and we have got a stronger squad than last year.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #708
 
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djr8369

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #709
Ccfcisparks said:
Van Ewjik, Kitching, Latibeaudiere, McNally, Whittaker, Simms, Yates is a dream window.

Supplemented by 3 loans of quality and a Hamer contract and we have got a stronger squad than last year.
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Let’s get some of them in before we get too excited!
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #710
Esoterica said:
Getting a top quality right wingback in is probably the most important piece of the puzzle now. Creative attacking wingbacks that are genuinely comfortable in the final third will go a long way to easing the loss of the other aspects of Gyokeres game. I know people will look more at our centre back situation but for me the wingbacks will be key to returning to a better possession based game, especially if we are looking to play 2 strikers, not the box, and therefore lighter in the middle of the park.
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I'm not so sure. It depends who we're playing as often the wing backs sit back a lot. I think a creative number 10 to fill in for O'hare is vital - so we don't have to rely on Palmer. I do agree with the CB's though, I think that whoever comes in will quickly adapt playing along side Fadz, and the system works well.
 

Briles

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #711
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
To be honest the expectation is warranted some what being our most expensive signing ever
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I mean not really, taking into account inflation since bellamy in 2000 the "highest transfer fee" label is kind of redundant in this case
 
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JulianDarbyFTW

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #712
It's remarkable really. Mark Robins and co have gone from wheeling and dealing free transfers in League 2 to now being in a position to buy at £8m, primarily through canniness in the marketplace and improving players. He's been slowly building an empire over the past few years.
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #713
JulianDarbyFTW said:
It's remarkable really. Mark Robins and co have gone from wheeling and dealing free transfers in League 2 to now being in a position to buy at £8m, primarily through canniness in the marketplace and improving players. He's been slowly building an empire over the past few years.
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It's really exciting times at Coventry, enjoy it whilst it lasts.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #714
Briles said:
I mean not really, taking into account inflation since bellamy in 2000 the "highest transfer fee" label is kind of redundant in this case
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Good point - 13.9m in these days for Bellamy
 
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Briles

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #715
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Good point - 13.9m in these days for Bellamy
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Madness that ain't it
 
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djr8369

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #716
JulianDarbyFTW said:
It's remarkable really. Mark Robins and co have gone from wheeling and dealing free transfers in League 2 to now being in a position to buy at £8m, primarily through canniness in the marketplace and improving players. He's been slowly building an empire over the past few years.
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It’s like a really good FM save.
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #717
fernandopartridge said:
Is the deal inconsistent with there being no money until Vik is sold?

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It's probably because there is no football and things have been a little dull lately, but the fanbase is more bi-polar than it ever has been. You have people so anti-King that he'll be blamed for starting the Ukraine war, and others so pro-King that they are losing all rationale.

I haven't seen a whole lot of Simms but on the face of it, it looks a good signing. I do think £8m is overpriced (based on where he is at in his career and his record, like I said, he might be a really good player. I don't watch any of Sunderland and the only real game I have seen of him was when he started up front for Everton on his own at Old Trafford and Everton as a collective were horrendous, so I can't judge) and can see why other fanbases would say as much, but I don't think we're going to be paying that for him unless we get promoted, and then straightaway it isn't overpriced.

It looks to be a promising start, and I hope we can build on it. But at the same time, (and I will be thrown in with the doom merchants) we're reinvesting some of the Gyokeres fee. If we hadn't, it would have been truly shocking. Let's hope it's the sign of things to come and we get to see a lot more of that fee reinvested in the squad.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #718
fernandopartridge said:
Is the deal inconsistent with there being no money until Vik is sold?

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No. As I said yesterday if Vik deal is agreed might just mean we can confirm deals we’ve been working on.
 

Esoterica

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #719
napolimp said:
I'm not so sure. It depends who we're playing as often the wing backs sit back a lot. I think a creative number 10 to fill in for O'hare is vital - so we don't have to rely on Palmer. I do agree with the CB's though, I think that whoever comes in will quickly adapt playing along side Fadz, and the system works well.
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The wing backs sitting back a lot was exactly the problem. A back 5 with 2 sitting midfielders. Fortunately we had Gyokeres unique attributes which meant when we were forced to go long and playing counter attacking football for most of 2nd half of the season, it was relatively successful. It was the problem in the first half of the play off final. A giant Christmas tree formation, easily nullified by the opposition packing midfield and preventing any easy passing outlet from the back to our own advanced midfield and forwards who were narrow and isolated.
Getting the wingbacks higher changes the whole dynamic of the midfield. It feels brave, maybe even reckless leaving the back 3 exposed but with 2 sitting midfielders they need to do more lateral work covering the gaps left by the wingbacks, rather than up and down the pitch. Then the Opposition can’t overload one area of the pitch as there are outlets wide, space opens up in the middle as a result and finding the time and space for possession based football becomes much easier. Also, we’re play off finalists now, think teams will sit off us much more, especially at home, making last season’s style even more redundant.

Anyway, this post will be TL: DR for most people. Not trying to start an argument, just enjoy these tactical discussions

Side note: If we do play with 2 out and out strikers, I doubt Palmer will get much of a look in this season. Will be 20 mins off the bench, replacing the 2nd striker. But I do think there is a place for him playing as the 2nd forward or in a box midfield.
 
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rob9872

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #720
I think this demonstrates our level of desperation!
 

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Yorkshire SB

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #721
fernandopartridge said:
Is the deal inconsistent with there being no money until Vik is sold?

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Let’s be clear, your comment was meant to stir about the goings on at the club. We’re spending big cash to replace Vik. If your contact is genuine (which I doubt), and isn’t a shit stirrer, perhaps they’d have told you that we had a big signing lined up to replace him, rather than a ridiculous ‘no money until Vik goes, and execution chairman won’t foot it’.

There’s nuance in the truth, and I’m inclined to think that you’re on a downer about Doug and happy to run on the negative, or at least believe it.

You’ve separately claimed;
Bad negotiation when we turned down the reported lower offer from Sporting, and we’d fucked it and might run out of time and not get a replacement.

As it goes, just a few days later, we’ve got a reported higher fee and replaced him immediately with a top prospect for a considerable amount.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #722
@GIMOC we see you lurking...
 
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djr8369

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #723
rob9872 said:
I think this demonstrates our level of desperation!
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And how many of us are supposed to be working…
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #724
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Good point - 13.9m in these days for Bellamy
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I never understood how they got tricked into buying a crock for that sort of money. Who did the medical, his brother?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #725
Ccfcisparks said:
@GIMOC we see you lurking...
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@GIMOC what's your whatsapp group saying about this?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #726
Yorkshire SB said:
Let’s be clear, your comment was meant to stir about the goings on at the club. We’re spending big cash to replace Vik. If your contact is genuine (which I doubt), and isn’t a shit stirrer, perhaps they’d have told you that we had a big signing lined up to replace him, rather than a ridiculous ‘no money until Vik goes, and execution chairman won’t foot it’.

There’s nuance in the truth, and I’m inclined to think that you’re on a downer about Doug and happy to run on the negative, or at least believe it.

You’ve separately claimed;
Bad negotiation when we turned down the reported lower offer from Sporting, and we’d fucked it and might run out of time and not get a replacement.
[citation needed]
As it goes, just a few days later, we’ve got a reported higher fee and replaced him immediately with a top prospect for a considerable amount. [citation needed]
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #727
Speedie's Head said:
I never understood how they got tricked into buying a crock for that sort of money. Who did the medical, his brother?
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Taking out what happened in the end - had we stayed up Bellamy would have been worth the money. Once he’d got over that injury turns out he was a decent player.

I remember Hartson coming to the casino post match and he told a story how he was told on relegation we’d keep him, Bellamy and Hadji and make Hartson captain. He went on holiday and when he came back- he was told all 3 of them were being sold

makes you think If Richardson had stuck to his guns - Bellamy, Hartson and Hadji would have got us promoted at first ask
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #728
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Taking out what happened in the end - had we stayed up Bellamy would have been worth the money. Once he’d got over that injury turns out he was a decent player.

I remember Hartson coming to the casino post match and he told a story how he was told on relegation we’d keep him, Bellamy and Hadji and make Hartson captain. He went on holiday and when he came back- he was told all 3 of them were being sold

makes you think If Richardson had stuck to his guns - Bellamy, Hartson and Hadji would have got us promoted at first ask
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Strachan wanted Hartson in that Autumn but couldn't get the deal done. We'd have stayed up without doubt
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #729
Speedie's Head said:
Strachan wanted Hartson in that Autumn but couldn't get the deal done. We'd have stayed up without doubt
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Weren’t they haggling over a million for 3 months? I’m sure that was the sticking point - we eventually signed him in February when it was too late
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #730
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Weren’t they haggling over a million for 3 months? I’m sure that was the sticking point - we eventually signed him in February when it was too late
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I don't know the detail but I remember it was an on-off saga. Didn't Richardson attack Hartson when he left?
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #731
Ccfcisparks said:
@GIMOC we see you lurking...
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They hatin'
Patrollin' and tryna catch me ridin' dirty
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #732
Yea tbf @GIMOC say something

I get fed the same info as you and own it if i look a prick (which is most the time) you cant be slinking about staying quiet

I still think Doug's got to spend more of the fee for Vik before i start believing in him. and a new fucking window

But got to own it mate
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #733
Sunderland fans trying to console themselves by insisting the £8m is in instalments rather than clauses.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #734
Saddlebrains said:
Sorry mate just had to clean your mums cum off my lips

Its a great start

But it's easy to throw 7 million at something when youve got 20 million coming in next week

A few more transfer fees thrown out and il be sucking dougs arse
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Don't be bitter because my moms got a bigger d*ck than you.

Yo mama so ugly her birth certificate is an apology letter from the condom factory.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 7, 2023
  • #735
Ccfcisparks said:
Sunderland fans trying to console themselves by insisting the £8m is in instalments rather than clauses.
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Doesn’t really matter 2bh. We’ve just got 20m so we’re still plus 12m - is it a lot - yes, but I hope we pay it, means he’d have fired us to the prem
 
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