EFL to end season this week - City likely to be promoted (3 Viewers)

SIR ERNIE · May 11, 2020

clint van damme said:
Ian Dennis said earlier on 5live he expects L1 and L2 to be voided this week.

Yes, I fear that's what will happen.

clint van damme · May 11, 2020

cc84cov said:
Voided and is crowned champions ? Or just all voided ?

He just said voided and some method bought in to decide the outcomes. He mentioned home and away PPG which would be slightly different to PPG but I'd imagine we'd still be champuons
Though in my previous post to that I quoted the Forest Green chairman who said he expected the season to be completed so who knows what's going on!

chiefdave · May 11, 2020

clint van damme said:
He just said voided and some method bought in to decide the outcomes. He mentioned home and away PPG which would be slightly different to PPG but I'd imagine we'd still be champuons

Think someone needs to explain to him what voided means.

clint van damme · May 11, 2020

chiefdave said:
Think someone needs to explain to him what voided means.

I may have used the wrong term when quoting him. I was laughing through the washing up.at the time!
Though I take voided to be different to null and void.

cc84cov · May 11, 2020

chiefdave said:
Think someone needs to explain to him what voided means.

Voided to me can mean voided on PPG or voided as in scrapped no1 up or down

cc84cov · May 11, 2020

clint van damme said:
I may have used the wrong term when quoting him. I was laughing through the washing up.at the time!
Though I take voided to be different to null and void.

Yes it can be different but u didn’t say hence why I asked what your meant lol

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · May 11, 2020

Legally I'm pretty sure void means it is expunged from the records as if it didn't happen. The distinction comes on whether something is void or voidable (which means someone has the choice to void something or not but if they do it is treated as if it never happened)

So if it were voided then it would be taken to have never happened and thus promotion/relegation based upon it wouldn't be possible.

clint van damme · May 11, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Legally I'm pretty sure void means it is expunged from the records as if it didn't happen. The distinction comes on whether something is void or voidable (which means someone has the choice to void something or not but if they do it is treated as if it never happened)

So if it were voided then it would be taken to have never happened and thus promotion/relegation based upon it wouldn't be possible.

Well I think I must have misquoted him.because he spoke of the league been decided using home and away PPG.
Like I said, that's a total contradiction of what the Forest Green chairman said earlier so I doubt anyone really knows

oakey · May 11, 2020

Thanks Clint for clarifying.
You nearly gave me a f××king heart attack before.

clint van damme · May 11, 2020

oakey said:
Thanks Clint for clarifying.
You nearly gave me a f××king heart attack before.

Sorry!!

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · May 11, 2020

clint van damme said:
Well I think I must have misquoted him.because he spoke of the league been decided using home and away PPG.
Like I said, that's a total contradiction of what the Forest Green chairman said earlier so I doubt anyone really knows

Maybe. Or he did use the term but incorrectly. Everyone at times uses terms that aren't exactly what they mean (I do it all the time)

Sick Boy · May 11, 2020

SIR ERNIE said:
Yes, I fear that's what will happen.

If the PL is gearing up for relegation, I’d be surprised if the Championship then had promotion but not relegation.

cc84cov · May 11, 2020

chiefdave said:
Think someone needs to explain to him what voided means.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Legally I'm pretty sure void means it is expunged from the records as if it didn't happen. The distinction comes on whether something is void or voidable (which means someone has the choice to void something or not but if they do it is treated as if it never happened)

So if it were voided then it would be taken to have never happened and thus promotion/relegation based upon it wouldn't be possible.

Next time @chiefdave make sure you fully understand the meaning of the word you quoted means pal before trying to beg likes ending up looking silly lol

Paxman II · May 11, 2020

I recall in the days of the pools panel, they would describe a match as 'void' meaning it never took place (never played) so void from the pools match day coupon when you were checking your chances of getting some winnings.
Or another way to look at it, would be to say all matches involving Bury have been voided.

chiefdave · May 11, 2020

cc84cov said:
Next time @chiefdave make sure you fully understand the meaning of the word you quoted means pal before trying to beg likes ending up looking silly lol

Er, the definition you've given there is what I thought it meant hence querying how it could both be voided and promotion decided on PPG.

lord_garrincha · May 11, 2020

Good to hear that the FA are insisting on relegation whether they play or not. Relegation amongst the EFL (Ch to L1, L1 to L2) should not be an issue as they remain in the EFL, albeit in a lower league... I doubt that there will be any L2 relegations on that basis. Just Barrow replacing Bury.

Big_Ben · May 11, 2020

I took it to mean that the remaining games would be voided i.e. the season finishes here, and the PPG for the season so far will decide the places. At least that's what makes most sense to me.

Philosoraptor · May 12, 2020

lord_garrincha said:
Good to hear that the FA are insisting on relegation whether they play or not. Relegation amongst the EFL (Ch to L1, L1 to L2) should not be an issue as they remain in the EFL, albeit in a lower league... I doubt that there will be any L2 relegations on that basis. Just Barrow replacing Bury.

It's unfortunate to say but I do hope there is relegation from the EFL on the basis of the league pyramid which links the sport together from the top teams to the grassroots. It's the difference between the FA Cup and the League Cup.

I would expect there to be a cut off point somewhere down to the pyramid where leagues have been abandoned and there is no way this can be successfully be done.

I'm guessing the last thing a lot of people want to see would be the sport morphing into a setup like American Football.

hill83 · May 12, 2020

clint van damme said:
I may have used the wrong term when quoting him. I was laughing through the washing up.at the time!
Though I take voided to be different to null and void.

You plonker.

Sbarcher · May 12, 2020

clint van damme said:
Well I think I must have misquoted him.because he spoke of the league been decided using home and away PPG.
Like I said, that's a total contradiction of what the Forest Green chairman said earlier so I doubt anyone really knows

That misquote was avoidable.

Nick · May 12, 2020

Are we prompted yet?

Robccfc87 · May 12, 2020

Nick said:
Are we prompted yet?

I was by my bloody alarm this morning!!!

Sick Boy · May 12, 2020

The article seemed to think there could be an announcement by today or tomorrow, wonder if that’ll be the case

steve cooper · May 12, 2020

Support from an unlikely source
Ex-Sunderland striker and prominent EFL pundit proposes this intriguing solution to decide League One promotion

Covstu · May 12, 2020

Sick Boy said:
The article seemed to think there could be an announcement by today or tomorrow, wonder if that’ll be the case

I hate this waiting, just got to conclude this either way and make a decision

Ring Of Steel · May 12, 2020

With it being lockdown this has become a bit of a 'thing' for me now, it feels like Christmas Eve and waiting to find out if we're on the good list (promotion) or the bad list (league cancelled)

shmmeee · May 12, 2020

I hope they announce the announcement. Get at least a little of that feeling of unified elation all at once instead of finding out in dribs and drabs on here one day.

skybluesam66 · May 12, 2020

shmmeee said:
I hope they announce the announcement. Get at least a little of that feeling of unified elation all at once instead of finding out in dribs and drabs on here one day.

I hope that they announce that they are going to announce the announcement

clint van damme · May 12, 2020

I hope they wait until my sky blue smoke bombs arrive

cc84cov · May 12, 2020

Expecting it by the end of this week for sure have a feeling tomorrow could be the day

Philosoraptor · May 12, 2020

steve cooper said:
Support from an unlikely source
Ex-Sunderland striker and prominent EFL pundit proposes this intriguing solution to decide League One promotion

Yes, it's called 'Sticko'.

Edit: Sticko doesn't look at the future games to be played and gives an estimate but it values every game which has already been played and gives a final table based on those results.

steph: The Stephenson Rating System in PlayerRatings: Dynamic Updating Methods for Player Ratings Estimation

https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/PlayerRatings/vignettes/AFLRatings.pdf

Here's the chronology.

Chess rating system - Wikipedia

steve cooper · May 12, 2020

I get the feeling that more and more people who basically oppose the idea of cancellation / deciding promotion are now accepting it, some are suggesting tweaks which they see as making things more fair but virtually no-one thinks we shouldn't be promoted.

clint van damme · May 12, 2020

clint van damme said:
I hope they wait until my sky blue smoke bombs arrive

they've just turned up, get the announcement made!

jordan210 · May 12, 2020

Does anyone actually know when the meeting is.

I can narrow it down to a few days. but no one actually seams to have any idea.

Today
Tomorrow
Tomorrow and Thursday

skyblueinBaku · May 12, 2020

jordan210 said:
Does anyone actually know when the meeting is.

I can narrow it down to a few days. but no one actually seams to have any idea.

Today
Tomorrow
Tomorrow and Thursday

I'm sure that I read somewhere that there will be 2 meetings (or votes) - tomorrow and Thursday.

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