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EFL to end season this week - City likely to be promoted (2 Viewers)

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 1, 2020
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jto123 said:
They could be pressured by the bigger clubs in League 1. Remember there are a few who will vote with the majority. If they see that the championship are playing, they may well think that we should too.
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Doesn’t it benefit the smaller clubs to keep the “bigger” names in league one? Sunderland and Ipswich will bring significant numbers.

Ultimately the imbalance of tv money means teams are already releasing their retained lists. I’d bet my house that those teams are going to vote to end the season
 
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jto123

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,152
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Doesn’t it benefit the smaller clubs to keep the “bigger” names in league one? Sunderland and Ipswich will bring significant numbers.

Ultimately the imbalance of tv money means teams are already releasing their retained lists. I’d bet my house that those teams are going to vote to end the season
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Fingers crossed you are right. Logically it would make sense, but this is the EFL after all.
 
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JulianDarbyFTW

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,153
bradwellskyblues said:
even if the timeline was possible which i dont think it is , the added regs like 5 subs mean lge 1 clubs would need 20-25 man playing squads allowing for certain number of injuries ,not viable for most clubs
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I wonder if the 5 subs thing will become a permanent fixture in the game. Hope not, but I can see some arguments that it helps the players remain fresh and reduces injuries.
 

better days

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,154
Mcbean said:
Dumb question here but it is the EFL who preside over the Championship? And therefore it’s them who will ultimately give the options for League 1 - a spike in infection will stop the lot for sure the ppg
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Yes
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,155
10 infections among the Championship teams as of Fridays tests.
That's up from 2 the Friday before
 
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Specs WT-R75

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,156
3 options that I can see here.

1. We resume on 23rd/24th June (midweek) for those teams with 10 games to play. Playing 2 games a week takes you to final game weekend of 25th July. Playoffs s/f on 28th & 1st Aug. Possibly that isn't even in line with what the EFL want but pretty close.
2. We decide that (1) isn't feasible and resume a week later but with no playoffs at all - just top 3. Done and dusted on 1st August which complies with the EFL request.
3. Season ends.

There's 2 weeks from the vote for (1), and 3 weeks for (2). No doubt teams will argue that they need more than 2 weeks training, but "it is what it is" - same for everyone.

Personally I think season is done myself. 7 more days to wait peeps!
 

tisza

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,157
Specs WT-R75 said:
There's 2 weeks from the vote for (1), and 3 weeks for (2). No doubt teams will argue that they need more than 2 weeks training, but "it is what it is" - same for everyone.

Personally I think season is done myself. 7 more days to wait peeps!
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Just don't see out of contract players extending if training is as little as 2 weeks.
5 weeks training in Germany has led to a 250% increase in injuries. Players just can't afford the risk of being injured and out of contract when the new season starts.
Championship clubs already claiming about June 20th being way too early for their players and they would have been back just under a month with that restart date.
 

Alkhen

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,158
Can't see how the league can restart with players and staff still on furlough. we will be weeks behind the two leagues above. Frankly i think the Prem and Champ are being driven to start due to not wanting or being able to repay TV money if they don't. cant really see that being a factor for us. I feel like the EFL are going through the motions without any real intention of restarting L1

I mean who actually cares bar the fans of a few teams in and around the playoffs and Tranmere? No chance Sky will be showing any L1 matches bar the playoff final if there is going to be daily Champ and prem matches to air
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,159
10 teams in the Prem don’t want relegations if the season can’t be finished.....this is going to drag for weeks and weeks yet
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,160
SkyBlueDom26 said:
10 teams in the Prem don’t want relegations if the season can’t be finished.....this is going to drag for weeks and weeks yet
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They should all be relegated.
 

tisza

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,161
SkyBlueDom26 said:
10 teams in the Prem don’t want relegations if the season can’t be finished.....this is going to drag for weeks and weeks yet
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getting silly.
Get to 36 games, bottom 3 adrift and there's a spike - relegation cancelled??
All this hype about all the games on TV etc. Who wants to watch Bournemouth-Norwich or Brighton-Watford if there's nothing riding on it?
All the talk of football solidarity in a time of crisis shown for the BS it is. It's all about self-interest at the top and bottom of all the Divisions.
 
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bradwellskyblues

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  • Jun 1, 2020
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charlton manager says 3 players including leading scorer lyle taylor have refused to play for club as they dont want to get injured as they are all out of contract.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,163
tisza said:
getting silly.
Get to 36 games, bottom 3 adrift and there's a spike - relegation cancelled??
All this hype about all the games on TV etc. Who wants to watch Bournemouth-Norwich or Brighton-Watford if there's nothing riding on it?
All the talk of football solidarity in a time of crisis shown for the BS it is. It's all about self-interest at the top and bottom of all the Divisions.
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The game needs jeopardy otherwise you have Rugby Union or MLS
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,164
tisza said:
getting silly.
Get to 36 games, bottom 3 adrift and there's a spike - relegation cancelled??
All this hype about all the games on TV etc. Who wants to watch Bournemouth-Norwich or Brighton-Watford if there's nothing riding on it?
All the talk of football solidarity in a time of crisis shown for the BS it is. It's all about self-interest at the top and bottom of all the Divisions.
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Deffo is silly mate it’s pathetic, if there are no relegations from the prem then I can’t see how they will promote teams from the EFL
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,165
bradwellskyblues said:
charlton manager says 3 players including leading scorer lyle taylor have refused to play for club as they dont want to get injured as they are all out of contract.
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Just release them then, players need to realise that the big wages for average are at an end as there will be hundreds if not thousands not getting new clubs this summer.
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,166
bradwellskyblues said:
charlton manager says 3 players including leading scorer lyle taylor have refused to play for club as they dont want to get injured as they are all out of contract.
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That is ridiculous.
The players can't have it all...either sign a contract and be covered, or don't sign a contract and accept the consequences.
 
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Malaka

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,167
tisza said:
Just don't see out of contract players extending if training is as little as 2 weeks.
5 weeks training in Germany has led to a 250% increase in injuries. Players just can't afford the risk of being injured and out of contract when the new season starts.
Championship clubs already claiming about June 20th being way too early for their players and they would have been back just under a month with that restart date.
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but most of those players were available for the next game as they were down to fatigue
 

Malaka

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,168
bradwellskyblues said:
charlton manager says 3 players including leading scorer lyle taylor have refused to play for club as they dont want to get injured as they are all out of contract.
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And they wont want a relegation on their CV
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,169
But in Charltons’ case what is the point of playing the players who don’t want to play due to their contract situation hardly going to break a sweat are they, atleast they are being honest.
 

tisza

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,170
Malaka said:
but most of those players were available for the next game as they were down to fatigue
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so fatigue suggests the "preseason" wasn't long enough.
Also it's a fact that periods of fixture congestion like Xmas see a spike in injuries and players are going to have to replicate that sort of workload.
Jogging/running might be okay for the aerobic side but the muscular side will have fallen away for many players.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,171
QPR has said a few things...

Championship return: QPR 'appalled' by EFL plans for 20 June restart
 

tisza

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,172
Magwitch said:
But in Charltons’ case what is the point of playing the players who don’t want to play due to their contract situation hardly going to break a sweat are they, atleast they are being honest.
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Going to get to the end of the season and some sides that miss out on play-offs or get relegated going to be bleating "it wasn't fair as some games had weakened sides." etc. No incentive/point in mid-table clubs in any Division overworking their players now if they've already got one eye on beginning of next season
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,173
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Just release them then, players need to realise that the big wages for average are at an end as there will be hundreds if not thousands not getting new clubs this summer.
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Probably using it as leverage to getting new contracts?
 
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Specs WT-R75

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,174
Its all a mess. Even with this it is all about self interest and explaining why if a team gets relegated it won't be fair. There is no "fair" solution, just some that are less-fair.

It's clear that playing out the games is fairer than PPG and so on... they should just get on with it. When the EFL vote through the rule changes next week Charlton will be going down under PPG, so the only way they get out of the mess they are in is by playing. Yes it will be unfortunate not to have Lyle but many other teams will be in similar positions.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,175
Lyle Taylor is a well known knobhead anyway.
 
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larry_david

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,176
bradwellskyblues said:
charlton manager says 3 players including leading scorer lyle taylor have refused to play for club as they dont want to get injured as they are all out of contract.
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Don't pay em then from now til end of July.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,177
JulianDarbyFTW said:
I wonder if the 5 subs thing will become a permanent fixture in the game. Hope not, but I can see some arguments that it helps the players remain fresh and reduces injuries.
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Cant wait for Robins to bring five players on in the 87th minute
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,178
Liquid Gold said:
Lyle Taylor is a well known knobhead anyway.
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Agree. Bloody good player, though. Bit like Toney.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,179
If they do bring in 5 subs then the ref better add the proper amount of time on. We only get 60 minutes ish as is.
 

better days

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,180
bradwellskyblues said:
charlton manager says 3 players including leading scorer lyle taylor have refused to play for club as they dont want to get injured as they are all out of contract.
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Tbh I think that will be the position of all out of contract players who have a move lined up
A bad injury would kibosh the move
Football is a ruthless game and I guarantee that Charlton wouldn't give a long extension in such circumstances
Their new owners seem to be even worse than the previous scumbags
 

tisza

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,181
larry_david said:
Don't pay em then from now til end of July.
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all relevant players technically under contract until June 30th?
 

larry_david

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,182
tisza said:
all relevant players technically under contract until June 30th?
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Sorrry June yes think you are right. Either way they refuse to play because they are worried they will get injured for their next clubs, no pay then
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,183
larry_david said:
Sorrry June yes think you are right. Either way they refuse to play because they are worried they will get injured for their next clubs, no pay then
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I don't imagine they are too concerned missing out on one pay cheque when the sign on fee alone for their new club could well be about 20x more.
 

larry_david

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,184
If lyle taylor is on 20k a week I bet he probably would be.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,185
bradwellskyblues said:
charlton manager says 3 players including leading scorer lyle taylor have refused to play for club as they dont want to get injured as they are all out of contract.
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Not surprising
 
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