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EFL to end season this week - City likely to be promoted (7 Viewers)

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steve cooper

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,116
Sbarcher said:
So far it’s around 90% death rate in the 65+ age group. Below 45 it’s about 1%. Obviously still a risk but the much bigger risk is for spectators and staff.
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Yes, "send three and fourpence, we're going to a dance" (google it)
It just shows how easily things can be misunderstood.
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,117
Terry_dactyl said:
Have the championship decided to play on?! I must have missed that...or already forgotten.
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It hasn’t been voted on but it has been agreed in conversation with the clubs that they should carry on.
 
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steve cooper

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,118
clint van damme said:
They tested all the staff at the Weston hospital in Wesston super mare due to a spike in cases in the are and it was something like 40 percent tested positive all asymptomatic.
I'd have to look up the exact numbers and I may have my figures a little wrong but it was certainly a high amount and would back up that theory.
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Yes, I guess there have been very few random tests done up to now, information like that can be very useful and re-assuring.
 

Marty

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,119
clint van damme said:
They tested all the staff at the Weston hospital in Wesston super mare due to a spike in cases in the are and it was something like 40 percent tested positive all asymptomatic.
I'd have to look up the exact numbers and I may have my figures a little wrong but it was certainly a high amount and would back up that theory.
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They have done a similar thing at a homeless shelter as well, something like 104 tested positive but only one or two showed very minor symptoms.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,120
The easing of the lockdown is bound to increase the incidence of cases. It’s interesting to note the reports of children being mainly asymptomatic and potentially 40% of people testing postive were also asymptomatic.
In terms of death rates - whilst the numbers of younger aged people dying is much lower. There are some medium to long term impacts on some, including neurological issues and scarring of the lungs.
So to downplay the impact on younger people is inappropriate
 

better days

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,121
Gibbo said:
What has it got to do with Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs? Idle curiosity
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Hm Customs & Excise merged with Inland Revenue so they control payroll now and administer the furlough scheme
 

better days

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,122
Marty said:
They have done a similar thing at a homeless shelter as well, something like 104 tested positive but only one or two showed very minor symptoms.
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This is very interesting
I am slightly involved in the testing in the general community where the rate of infection is being found to be very low outside London
Hospitals, care homes and homeless shelters etc are showing much higher rates
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,123
Sbarcher said:
So far it’s around 90% death rate in the 65+ age group. Below 45 it’s about 1%. Obviously still a risk but the much bigger risk is for spectators and staff.
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I know post Thatcher it has always been about me me me, but the risk to focus on more than any other is that of increasing the spread the virus, that's what big events will do.

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fernandopartridge

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,124
Grendel said:
Yes it does show the very low risk rate and I’m sure I read somewhere that 90% under 45 had health issues
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Yeah but have a look at the break down of the underlying health conditions, there is a huge 'other' category which suggests relatively minor underlying problems that a lot of the population may have

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Alkhen

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,125
Championship season set to restart on 20 June as coronavirus lockdown eases

Championship to restart 20th June. Can't see League one being ready to go in 20 days. What's the cut off point I wonder?
 

shepardo01

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,126
Alkhen said:
Championship season set to restart on 20 June as coronavirus lockdown eases

Championship to restart 20th June. Can't see League one being ready to go in 20 days. What's the cut off point I wonder?
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The meeting on the 8th!
 

Alkhen

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,127
shepardo01 said:
The meeting on the 8th!
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Can't possibly happen can it? Gonna need minimum of 2 weeks training probably 3. Would be deep in to August before playoffs are sorted
 

Frank Sidebottom

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,128
Alkhen said:
Can't possibly happen can it? Gonna need minimum of 2 weeks training probably 3. Would be deep in to August before playoffs are sorted
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Next season is pencilled in to start on the weekend of 12th September..... if the season is curtailed we won't have played a competitive game in over 6 months.
 
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jto123

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,129
Alkhen said:
Championship season set to restart on 20 June as coronavirus lockdown eases

Championship to restart 20th June. Can't see League one being ready to go in 20 days. What's the cut off point I wonder?
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Looks more likely that the league one season is going to play out. Clubs may argue that they can't play without crowds, but that may well be the case for the next 18 months. We're going to have to win this on the pitch. Strap yourselves in for a bumpy ride...
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,130
jto123 said:
Looks more likely that the league one season is going to play out. Clubs may argue that they can't play without crowds, but that may well be the case for the next 18 months. We're going to have to win this on the pitch. Strap yourselves in for a bumpy ride...
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I’d disagree. League one hasn’t started testing yet and the play offs will need to be completed before the championship on July 30th.

if they start training on the 8th they’ll need at least 3 weeks. Meaning we won’t be starting until July - there’s no chance we complete a season in 30 days
 

clint van damme

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,131
If league one restarts and we fuck.it up where are we going to riot (while maintaining social distancing)
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,132
clint van damme said:
If league one restarts and we fuck.it up where are we going to riot (while maintaining social distancing)
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The Ricoh
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,133
Timperley said:
Next season is pencilled in to start on the weekend of 12th September..... if the season is curtailed we won't have played a competitive game in over 6 months.
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Or look at this way. We haven’t lost a competitive game in 9 months
 
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jto123

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,134
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’d disagree. League one hasn’t started testing yet and the play offs will need to be completed before the championship on July 30th.

if they start training on the 8th they’ll need at least 3 weeks. Meaning we won’t be starting until July - there’s no chance we complete a season in 30 days
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In principle I agree, but I can see the EFL clubs being pressured into restarting. The fact that the government have given the green light and that the championship will start will make it difficult for smaller clubs to argue that they cannot play.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,135
clint van damme said:
If league one restarts and we fuck.it up where are we going to riot (while maintaining social distancing)
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If we fuck it up we can just threaten legal action and spit our dummy out can't we?
 

clint van damme

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,136
Skybluefaz said:
If we fuck it up we can just threaten legal action and spit our dummy out can't we?
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There would be good, another court case!!
 

ccfcway

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,137
Skybluefaz said:
If we fuck it up we can just threaten legal action and spit our dummy out can't we?
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It’s a tactic we are familiar with
 

chiefdave

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,138
jto123 said:
In principle I agree, but I can see the EFL clubs being pressured into restarting. The fact that the government have given the green light and that the championship will start will make it difficult for smaller clubs to argue that they cannot play.
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Pressured by who? We know what is being voted on so it’s down to the clubs.

I don’t think the PL clubs or TV companies give a shit what happens in L1 and we all know they’re the ones with the power.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,139
jto123 said:
In principle I agree, but I can see the EFL clubs being pressured into restarting. The fact that the government have given the green light and that the championship will start will make it difficult for smaller clubs to argue that they cannot play.
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How can championship clubs make it difficult? It’s of no consequence to championship - the only clubs that may argue is Barnsley, Luton, Charlton and Hull all of which have no real clout.

If the likes of Shrewsbury and Doncaster think they’ll struggle financially then nothing them 4 clubs can say will change their minds. This season is done
 
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Magwitch

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,140
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’d disagree. League one hasn’t started testing yet and the play offs will need to be completed before the championship on July 30th.

if they start training on the 8th they’ll need at least 3 weeks. Meaning we won’t be starting until July - there’s no chance we complete a season in 30 days
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Will they need three weeks ? And we don’t have to start on a weekend do we, can be any day of the week, don’t get me wrong I’m not hankering to play on I want the easier option off ppg, but if the championship decide to play on not sure what argument there is for league one. The EFL have been dawdling along imo looking for what the championship is doing, My money is still on for ppg but wouldn’t be surprised we play on too.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 31, 2020
  • #3,141
Magwitch said:
but if the championship decide to play on not sure what argument there is for league one.
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Money. More Championship games are televised so they have a much bigger issue if they have to pay back a portion of the TV money for games not played. Same for all other income, its far higher than at our level.

Plus due to wages being high the benefit of furloughing players is minimal. Average championship wage is over £45K a month, being able to claim £2.5K off the government isn't going to help much with that.
 
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usskyblue

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  • Jun 1, 2020
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skybluesam66

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,143
US. Glad your car is on the right side of the road
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,144
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’d disagree. League one hasn’t started testing yet and the play offs will need to be completed before the championship on July 30th.

if they start training on the 8th they’ll need at least 3 weeks. Meaning we won’t be starting until July - there’s no chance we complete a season in 30 days
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Do they need to be completed before the championship playoff? I know usually the L1 final is the day before but is it set in stone that has to happen?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,145
Alkhen said:
Championship season set to restart on 20 June as coronavirus lockdown eases

Championship to restart 20th June. Can't see League one being ready to go in 20 days. What's the cut off point I wonder?
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From what I can remember when Brody was on 5Live the cut off date has been and gone.

Around 10 days ago.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,146
CV22SBA said:
Do they need to be completed before the championship playoff? I know usually the L1 final is the day before but is it set in stone that has to happen?
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They said the other day they want the l1 & 2 play offs before the championship. Sounds like they want it done and dusted before July 31st.
Magwitch said:
Will they need three weeks ? And we don’t have to start on a weekend do we, can be any day of the week, don’t get me wrong I’m not hankering to play on I want the easier option off ppg, but if the championship decide to play on not sure what argument there is for league one. The EFL have been dawdling along imo looking for what the championship is doing, My money is still on for ppg but wouldn’t be surprised we play on too.
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I’m basing on both the Chsmpionship and prem starting training 3/4 weeks before restart. Robins said himself we’d need a month
 

Mcbean

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,147
Dumb question here but it is the EFL who preside over the Championship? And therefore it’s them who will ultimately give the options for League 1 - a spike in infection will stop the lot for sure the ppg
 
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jto123

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,148
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
How can championship clubs make it difficult? It’s of no consequence to championship - the only clubs that may argue is Barnsley, Luton, Charlton and Hull all of which have no real clout.

If the likes of Shrewsbury and Doncaster think they’ll struggle financially then nothing them 4 clubs can say will change their minds. This season is done
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I wasn't implying that the championship clubs would apply pressure, but that by due of them playing it puts pressure on clubs arguing that we cannot play. The timeline still looks like it is in our favour, but I wouldn't rule out some flexibility from the EFL just yet.
 
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jto123

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,149
chiefdave said:
Pressured by who? We know what is being voted on so it’s down to the clubs.

I don’t think the PL clubs or TV companies give a shit what happens in L1 and we all know they’re the ones with the power.
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They could be pressured by the bigger clubs in League 1. Remember there are a few who will vote with the majority. If they see that the championship are playing, they may well think that we should too.
 
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bradwellskyblues

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3,150
even if the timeline was possible which i dont think it is , the added regs like 5 subs mean lge 1 clubs would need 20-25 man playing squads allowing for certain number of injuries ,not viable for most clubs
 
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