Sky Blue Pete
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With help and support I agree
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Grendel
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The issue is Pete believes people can be cured.
Child abusers like all people who are addicted to unnatural urges are manipulative and want to find a way to carry on with their desires. There will be zero accountability. Even if you can get 10% not to relapse 90% will and all it does is make these people better at covering the way they operate
Grendel
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You will still be end up with 9 out of 10 abusers eager and ready again to abuse again which is why they must remain incarcerated for ever or put down
Sky Blue Pete
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I prefer rehabilitated rather than cured and actually with attraction and addiction I completely accept that the urges won’t go away
I am far more interested in people understanding that, owning what they’ve done, understanding why they did it, the impact on the victims and them to work out what they can do to not reoffend
I believe that’s possible for many people involved in addictive behaviour.
Sky Blue Pete
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Well that’s not what we do
It’s also not what the evidence says in other similar countries or even our country for many offences
Grendel
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They just don’t get caught doing it again. Fuck me you are out of your depth
Sky Blue Pete
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Grendel
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Where’s yours FFS
Sky Blue Pete
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I’ve shared the recidivism rates and you say they just don’t get caught
I’ll share again
Sky Blue Pete
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Captain Dart
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National Public Radio.
Grendel
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The nativity is astonishing.
Sky Blue Pete
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In the government statistics.
Lol
Sky Blue Pete
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Pioneering project to rehabilitate people who have committed sex offences - Lucy Faithfull Foundation
This month, we launch a trailblazing project to rehabilitate people who have committed sexual offences. Through Circles of Support and Accountability, we’ll be working with people in the West Midlands to help them to not offend again. Each circle includes 4 to 6 trained volunteers from the local...
www.lucyfaithfull.org.uk
I prefer doing what we can to stop people offending to be honest but I’ll challenge what I can to ensure we don’t leave our communities and institutions more at risk than less
Way over 99% of those convicted will be released so why not do something to make their chance of offending less
Grendel
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Pioneering project to rehabilitate people who have committed sex offences - Lucy Faithfull Foundation
This month, we launch a trailblazing project to rehabilitate people who have committed sexual offences. Through Circles of Support and Accountability, we’ll be working with people in the West Midlands to help them to not offend again. Each circle includes 4 to 6 trained volunteers from the local...
I prefer doing what we can to stop people offending to be honest but I’ll challenge what I can to ensure we don’t leave our communities and institutions more at risk than less
Way over 99% of those convicted will be released so why not do something to make their chance of offending less
What’s the percentage of people being raped even reporting it?
Sky Blue Pete
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Youre saying you’re the expert rather than those that work in the area
Ok
it’s like nicks answer about being friends with violent mates
Instead of saying no he made excuses for their behaviour
Give me evidence that shows you can’t rehabilitate offenders especially those convicted of a sexual offence
Nick
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Slipping up and having a takeaway is again very different to sexually assaulting a child.
I'm not sure why you keep trying to play it down.
Look at that man in Gregg's, bet he has a wank and is eating a sausage roll. Must be the next Ian Huntley.
Nick
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What you're getting at, maybe not meaning to is to normalise noncing. Wasn't there a thing set up back in the day?
I've said I've got a mate who was arrested for a scrap outside a night club years ago and it's not comparable to somebody who harms kids, who I know would have backs turned on them, if not a slap.
Sky Blue Pete
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Gosh move on Nick
We are discussing the 12 step programme ffs
Sky Blue Pete
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I found it interesting that you would make excuses for their violent behaviour that’s all
You need to get your mind sexual offences
Nick
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And why are you discussing that? So you can play down sex offending.
Nick
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Where did I say that?
Pete, with all due to respect. The game you're playing to try and "gotcha" doesn't work. Normal people aren't friends with convicted / proven nonces.
You keep trying to spin it like it's a bloke who had a drunken fight. It's fucking weird.
Sky Blue Pete
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Nope grendel said it doesn’t work
Sky Blue Pete
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I’m absolutely not and I think you’re being mightily defensive
Nick
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I'm not the one trying to play down people assaulting children and saying it's ok to be mates with them.
How do you really not see what you're writing? Then you have pathetic, childish responses like this.
Grendel
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Based on several years experience - which you have by your own admission none
They really are just a rubbish Trump tribute act
Hmmm, Id imagine it was more a throw away comment. Doubt they could ever do something like that in power
The bigger issue here is WTF was the society doing not only banning Reform but then that embarrassing public announcement about it. Just virtue signalling bollocks
I’m no fan of reform and worry about them winning the next election but it’s stuff like this that is likely to only increase their support. They’ve shown at council level they can’t deliver and I would imagine would struggle in a debate about what they’ve got to offer so have them along and debate them!
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Definitely invite them now and get them to explain why they'd cut the funding.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I thought they'd keep him in place until May as well, so he has to carry the can for the inevitable LE bloodbath. Gives the party a reason for getting rid of him in terms of policy/delivery and giving someone else a relatively blank slate.