Sky Blue Pete
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Nice climb down by x and musk on grok making images of children
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Grendel
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Jenrick is just another chancer that invented himself as Far Right as he thought he would be more popular
chiefdave
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Took 60K posts but the thread has finally jumped the shark
chiefdave
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Think Reform, where I presume Jenrick is about to defect to, need to be a bit careful with taking on failed Conservative politicians.
Pretty hard to present yourself as the alternative to the establishment when an ever increasing number in your party are from the government recently voted out.
Pretty hard to present yourself as the alternative to the establishment when an ever increasing number in your party are from the government recently voted out.
She seems to tell it how it is. Admitted Tories made mistakes. Hasn’t fucked about with Jenrick to try to placate the further right of the party. Liked the call of considering banning under 16s from social media.
Admittedly shes no Polanski, Farage or Starmer but compared to how she was performing a year ago she appears to be improving. I don’t think that’s overly controversial
Mucca Mad Boys
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The idea that Jenrick has had a damascene conversion to Brexit and on immigration is a bit of stretch. When you’re in the public eye, it’s v difficult to change your opinion genuinely without accusations of opportunism.
I’m pretty sure he’s supposed to have said that he’ll lurch rightwards to then govern as a centrist… he comes across as disingenuous
If Reform are about to secure a Labour MP defection, it might do something to balance the narrative of Reform picking up failed Tories.
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep they only had 10 years on their own after a year it’s time to trust them again
Mucca Mad Boys
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I’ve always like how she interviews and communicates her thought processes.
I’m not plussed about Labour/Green voters questioning why we like her somewhat… I don’t like Polanski but can see his appeal to people on the left.
Starmer never had any appeal, it was apparent that he was a pound shop Blair before he stepped foot in Number 10.
Sky Blue Pete
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Reform were establishment figures and are just becoming it more and more
Mucca Mad Boys
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Anyone who fancies a laugh:
Mucca Mad Boys
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I wouldn’t really call them establishment… outcast Tories, yes. Farage is on record saying he wants a hostile takeover of the Tories.
It’s probably that the Greens will start to poach Labour Left MPs after the next GE if it became apparent that they will supplant Labour. You need some experience of government and the levers of power if you want to be a transformative government of any colour.
It just seems that neither the previous governments no longer know how to ‘get things done’.
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fernandopartridge
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The man of the people
Ccfcisparks
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Just a disgusting sell out of a man
fernandopartridge
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Exactly, his sole principle is self enrichment
Sky Blue Pete
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Suggestion being it’s not possible to make meaningful change as there are no levers to use I think
What do you have left then?
I agree on this subject it seems/should be luaded but it needs to be applied across the board anyone who's spouting toxic opinions in society she needs to root out even the one's who's platforms are abusing their position,so maybe she's spotted a trend?