Do you want to discuss boring politics? (9 Viewers)
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Grendel
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Id say as it’s just another example of Labour front bench incompetence
This person seems a rather odious chap but if he’s got a British passport I guess that’s that.
It’s a fitting end to the year for Starmer. Big up his release and his part in it. Then the ostrich egg lands on his head and he bids a hasty retreat.
Mucca Mad Boys
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How Abd El-Fattah was granted citizenship says a lot about the state. He’s never lived in the UK and yet the government specifically lobbied the Egyptian government to ‘return’ him to Britain. Frankly, he should be denaturalised at a bare minimum and the country needs to have a hard think about what it means to be British citizen.
British citizenship has become an administrative process. It needs to tied to a civic national identity as it is in France and the USA.
Sky Blue Pete
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And then we can follow the USA and deport people who’ve gone though the process
Grendel
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This is nothing to do with anything other than Starmer bigging himself and his legal abilities up and then looking like a total fool - it sums up his inability to lead this country.
mmttww
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are there actually many people on here that think he's doing a good job or defend his record as PM? because from what I've seen, if you were hoping folks would rush to defend him or give Jenrick a kicking so you could get into it with them, you were always going to be disappointed.
If only we could enjoy the uncomplicated nationalist politics and sense of social cohesion enjoyed by the Americans and the French.
Sky Blue Pete
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Grendel
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What do you keep blabbering on about Jenrick
Sky Blue Pete
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Aren’t we all
Maybe our expectations are too high of others and not high enough of ourselves
Maybe our expectations are too high of others and not high enough of ourselves
mmttww
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because he led the outrage charge on this one.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Grendel
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Well I’m surprised anyone would celebrate his coming to the uk but I think Shemima Begum should not have had her citizenship revoked so I’m hardly demanding that for a pound shop racist like this moron
chiefdave
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Sums up the state of our politicians.
You've got Conservative MPs who were campaigning for his release now outraged. You've got Farage & Reform, who had Lucy Connolly up on stage as a hero despite her being found guilty of inciting racial hatred, reporting historic tweets to the police and Starmer looking like a dear in the headlights.
We're governed by incompetents.
Sky Blue Pete
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We’re all incompetents chief
Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try harder but I think this is at the root of our current issues
We expect far more from others than we do from ourselves
Let’s be better
The United States hands out citizenship to anyone who happens to be born there. I’m not sure how their system is meant to be better (or less “administrative”) than ours?Ah yes, there’s no nationalist parties and social cohesion is at an all time high in the rest of Europe…
mmttww
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OK. Did you hope people on here would be?
Grendel
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You seem to be editing my posts for some reason.
Many have in the uk especially celebrities and the government until it became embarrassing
If I said I wanted more black people to die on here I think I’d be in for a tough time
mmttww
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Still don't think you've explained why you're amazed. I'm not amazed that a politician(s) would switch their stance to score points or scramble to seem to be on the right side of history, so it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot to talk about.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Jimmy Carr has been coming out with some interesting things on the podcast rounds.
Sky Blue Pete
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I like his idea of no tax till you’re 30 and moving wealth from the old to the young
Mucca Mad Boys
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You’d also have to massively shrink state for that to happen.
Broadly speaking, I’m a fan of generous tax allowances for families. The cost of everything and a generation of cultural malignment of parenthood has been prohibitive for young people starting families.
The advice to people of my generation to defer having kids ‘until 30’ is turning out to be disaster for many people.
Grendel
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Jimmy Carr discussing paying tax my my
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Sky Blue Pete
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Yep of course
Mucca Mad Boys
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In fairness, he doesn’t laugh his own expense and he went down the typical Labour cabinet minister excuse of ‘bad advice’.Jimmy Carr discussing paying tax my my
7 Famous Tax Dodgers & What They Did Wrong | Crunch
Welcome to the tax rogues Hall of Shame! featuring Alan Partridge, Vince Cable, Kerry Katona, Bernard Black and Wesley Snipes.
Personally, my view is that people will always try to reduce their tax burden and only apologise when they caught. Though that’s hardly an original view to have.
StrettoBoy
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Fraternite!