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Grendel

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No, that was me, don’t worry!

Why didn’t you post about it sooner? Trying to brush it under the carpet?

I’ve been busy over Christmas with all these games on
 

Grendel

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and I'm sure you'll tell us what the reason is so you can quit being such a cocktease and spell it out.

Id say as it’s just another example of Labour front bench incompetence

This person seems a rather odious chap but if he’s got a British passport I guess that’s that.

It’s a fitting end to the year for Starmer. Big up his release and his part in it. Then the ostrich egg lands on his head and he bids a hasty retreat.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Id say as it’s just another example of Labour front bench incompetence

This person seems a rather odious chap but if he’s got a British passport I guess that’s that.

It’s a fitting end to the year for Starmer. Big up his release and his part in it. Then the ostrich egg lands on his head and he bids a hasty retreat.
How Abd El-Fattah was granted citizenship says a lot about the state. He’s never lived in the UK and yet the government specifically lobbied the Egyptian government to ‘return’ him to Britain. Frankly, he should be denaturalised at a bare minimum and the country needs to have a hard think about what it means to be British citizen.

British citizenship has become an administrative process. It needs to tied to a civic national identity as it is in France and the USA.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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How Abd El-Fattah was granted citizenship says a lot about the state. He’s never lived in the UK and yet the government specifically lobbied the Egyptian government to ‘return’ him to Britain. Frankly, he should be denaturalised at a bare minimum and the country needs to have a hard think about what it means to be British citizen.

British citizenship has become an administrative process. It needs to tied to a civic national identity as it is in France and the USA.
And then we can follow the USA and deport people who’ve gone though the process
 

Grendel

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And then we can follow the USA and deport people who’ve gone though the process

This is nothing to do with anything other than Starmer bigging himself and his legal abilities up and then looking like a total fool - it sums up his inability to lead this country.
 
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mmttww

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example of Labour front bench incompetence.

are there actually many people on here that think he's doing a good job or defend his record as PM? because from what I've seen, if you were hoping folks would rush to defend him or give Jenrick a kicking so you could get into it with them, you were always going to be disappointed.
 

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British citizenship has become an administrative process. It needs to tied to a civic national identity as it is in France and the USA.
If only we could enjoy the uncomplicated nationalist politics and sense of social cohesion enjoyed by the Americans and the French.
 

Grendel

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are there actually many people on here that think he's doing a good job or defend his record as PM? because from what I've seen, if you were hoping folks would rush to defend him or give Jenrick a kicking so you could get into it with them, you were always going to be disappointed.

What do you keep blabbering on about Jenrick
 

Marty

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Yet another own goal by the adults. They're all as incompetent as the other.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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If only we could enjoy the uncomplicated nationalist politics and sense of social cohesion enjoyed by the Americans and the French.

Ah yes, there’s no nationalist parties and social cohesion is at an all time high in the rest of Europe… 😂
 

Grendel

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because he led the outrage charge on this one.

Well I’m surprised anyone would celebrate his coming to the uk but I think Shemima Begum should not have had her citizenship revoked so I’m hardly demanding that for a pound shop racist like this moron
 

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They're all as incompetent as the other.
Sums up the state of our politicians.

You've got Conservative MPs who were campaigning for his release now outraged. You've got Farage & Reform, who had Lucy Connolly up on stage as a hero despite her being found guilty of inciting racial hatred, reporting historic tweets to the police and Starmer looking like a dear in the headlights.

We're governed by incompetents.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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Sums up the state of our politicians.

You've got Conservative MPs who were campaigning for his release now outraged. You've got Farage & Reform, who had Lucy Connolly up on stage as a hero despite her being found guilty of inciting racial hatred, reporting historic tweets to the police and Starmer looking like a dear in the headlights.

We're governed by incompetents.
We’re all incompetents chief
Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try harder but I think this is at the root of our current issues
We expect far more from others than we do from ourselves
Let’s be better
 

SBT

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Ah yes, there’s no nationalist parties and social cohesion is at an all time high in the rest of Europe… 😂
The United States hands out citizenship to anyone who happens to be born there. I’m not sure how their system is meant to be better (or less “administrative”) than ours?
 
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Grendel

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OK. Did you hope people on here would be?

You seem to be editing my posts for some reason.

Many have in the uk especially celebrities and the government until it became embarrassing

If I said I wanted more black people to die on here I think I’d be in for a tough time
 

mmttww

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I’m amazed no one has mentioned this absolute fiasco

Still don't think you've explained why you're amazed. I'm not amazed that a politician(s) would switch their stance to score points or scramble to seem to be on the right side of history, so it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot to talk about.
 

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