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[fernandopartridge]

Ps how do you properly build any significant new energy infrastructure etc in a country where we can’t even build transport infrastructure in a timely, cost efficient manner. Everything just gets bogged down in nonsense see HS2 as well as stuff like this…

Lower Thames Crossing planning application becomes UK's longest ever - at more than 350,000 pages, and costing almost £300m

The planning application for a £10bn road project to relieve traffic on the M25 at Dartford has become Britain's biggest ever.

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Delaying things because of inflationary pressures doesn't make the inflation go away either!

 

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[CCFCSteve]

Delaying things because of inflationary pressures doesn't make the inflation go away either!

Problem is due to these planning related delays, not only does the planning process end up costing a load more than expected but you end up having to pay a lot more for the project (as you say due to inflation etc). Happening in private sector as well as public and is one of the major issues we need to address as a country

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Problem is due to these planning related delays, not only does the planning process end up costing a load more than expected but you end up having to pay a lot more for the project (as you say due to inflation etc). Happening in private sector as well as public and is one of the major issues we need to address as a country

There is a balance to be struck between having too few regulations as to be dangerous, and too many as to be cumbersome. As a layperson in this area it does look far too lopsided in the latter direction.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Ps how do you properly build any significant new energy infrastructure etc in a country where we can’t even build transport infrastructure in a timely, cost efficient manner. Everything just gets bogged down in nonsense see HS2 as well as stuff like this…

Lower Thames Crossing planning application becomes UK's longest ever - at more than 350,000 pages, and costing almost £300m

The planning application for a £10bn road project to relieve traffic on the M25 at Dartford has become Britain's biggest ever.

www.cityam.com

It’s a huge problem, all of our infrastructure projects always come in over budget with huge delays. At some point, a PM will get elected to have a bonfire of red tape.

The prevailing mood of the country was that our state apparatuses were paralysed by a feeble Tory government riddled with infighting. We’re barely 18 months into a new Labour government and it’s unravelling. Putting party politics aside, it’s clear that the state is broken on a fundamental level.

 

[PVA]

At some point, a PM will get elected to have a bonfire of red tape.

Wasn't that supposed to be a big Brexit benefit? In reality it's actually made it worse for many.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Wasn't that supposed to be a big Brexit benefit? In reality it's actually made it worse for many.

International trade for SMEs is undoubtedly more difficult post-Brexit. For big corporations and the like, not much has changed.

What a lot of people don’t really understand about Brexit is that most EU regulations are still on the statute books. To generalise, an extensive copy and paste job removing references to EU and Commission to UK Parliament and the monarchy.

The Tories did flirt with a sun set law which would allow all these to expire unless specifically kept on. For whatever reason, they backed away from that presumably because of Tory in-fighting and the day-to-day parliamentary business would’ve been taken up with this.

The idea that Brexit would come without disruption and there would be this ‘big bang’ of economic growth was going to be fanciful. These massive constitutional changes take decades to make a difference, just as it did with the UK joining the EC in the first place.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It’s a huge problem, all of our infrastructure projects always come in over budget with huge delays. At some point, a PM will get elected to have a bonfire of red tape.

The prevailing mood of the country was that our state apparatuses were paralysed by a feeble Tory government riddled with infighting. We’re barely 18 months into a new Labour government and it’s unravelling. Putting party politics aside, it’s clear that the state is broken on a fundamental level.

But you have to be careful. There tends to be an overreaction by both sides whenever change occurs. When we have a massive deregulation because of rules stifling business and growth. Then a few years later it all goes to shit because the things that we build as a result of that deregulation break and are proved to be dangerous (or in terms of the finance industry collapse and cause recession). Then we have a huge new load of regulation brought in to protect against that. An so it goes on...

Striking that balance between the two if very hard, especially when you have a very loud and powerful group complaining when they have any kind of regulation to adhere to at all. There are so many things that need to be taken into consideration when making decisions that they are sadly going to be long winded and costly. But we'd probably find that cheap in the long run if we didn't have those processes and had to fix them after the fact because we didn't consider them in the planning stage.

On the whole, I think regulation (and legislation in general) should be what an ethical person would do even if the legislation wasn't there. Then it's not really a burden as it's what you would naturally be doing anyway. And if you are someone who complains about that because you wouldn't do it, we need to stop to you because you're going to cause nothing but problems. Like there being a law against murder. 99.9% of people will never commit a murder but that doesn't mean we should remove murder from the statute books.