Do you want to discuss boring politics? (21 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Pete]

Bloody hell Pete, as a protest vote I understand it, but they really are scraping the bottom.

More than reform really?

 

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[SBT]

What happens in the public sector if these people don’t deliver? In the private sector, they get sacked.

Pretty sure public sector workers get sacked too.

We’ve moved from the original argument of “public sector workers don’t make consequential business decisions” to “public sector workers do make the same decisions, they just aren’t as productive”. Spare us another essay and let us know when you’ve decided where the goalposts are going to sit first.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Pretty sure public sector workers get sacked too.

We’ve moved from the original argument of “public sector workers don’t make consequential business decisions” to “public sector workers do make the same decisions, they just aren’t as productive”. Spare us another essay and let us know when you’ve decided where the goalposts are going to sit first.

If Grendel is Mark Francois I'm picturing that MMB is Grant Shapps

 

[Grendel]

If Grendel is Mark Francois I'm picturing that MMB is Grant Shapps

I’ve always pictured you as Alan Carr if I’m honest

 

[rob9872]

More than reform really?

Nope. Equal. Greens and Your Party the same. All would be a car crash.

As much as I'm not a fan of Labour and particularly this lot, they have a level of experience and knowledge that can't be done on the fly. If the main two cant get it right with tools, funding, history, experience etc etc then I xant see others making a better fist of it. It's why I'm really struggling for the next vote at present. I hope the Conservatives come back stronger, but I cant see it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I’ve always pictured you as Alan Carr if I’m honest

Yes I remember you saying that before. Tom Watson is the better comparison, a morbidly obese guy turned merely overweight

 

[rob9872]

I’ve always pictured you as Alan Carr if I’m honest

In the past he's described himself as overweight and ginger so I have more of a 90s Mick Hucknall in my head for you @Brighton Sky Blue - probably way off the mark.

 

[Grendel]

Pretty sure public sector workers get sacked too.

We’ve moved from the original argument of “public sector workers don’t make consequential business decisions” to “public sector workers do make the same decisions, they just aren’t as productive”. Spare us another essay and let us know when you’ve decided where the goalposts are going to sit first.

You seem very triggered by this

 

[rob9872]

Yes I remember you saying that before. Tom Watson is the better comparison, a morbidly obese guy turned merely overweight

Ah ok then nothing like my image lol

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Ah ok then nothing like my image lol

Physical appearance wise imagine Ed Sheeran but with better facial hair, fashion sense and above all else, a better voice

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You seem very triggered by this

Can you just fast forward to the inevitable Basildon Gazzette gag?

 

[Grendel]

Physical appearance wise imagine Ed Sheeran but with better facial hair, fashion sense and above all else, a better voice

I was actually once told I was the spitting image of Sam Allardyce which given he’s over 10 years older wasn’t entirely flattering

 

[SBT]

You seem very triggered by this

Don’t worry yourself, we’re just having a conversation.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I was actually once told I was the spitting image of Sam Allardyce which given he’s over 10 years older wasn’t entirely flattering

For you it's a close call between Nick Ferrari, Jim Davidson and Mark Francois. All have the same general appearance and mischievous look which I assume you adopt when up to mischief on here

 

[SBT]

I was actually once told I was the spitting image of Sam Allardyce which given he’s over 10 years older wasn’t entirely flattering

I’m not saying I picture you as being fat, but you did once claim that Masterchef was responsible for £2 billion in revenue a year

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I’m not saying I picture you as being fat, but you did once claim that Masterchef was responsible for £2 billion in revenue a year

@Mucca Mad Boys and who says that the public sector isn't productive?

 

[SBT]

For you it's a close call between Nick Ferrari, Jim Davidson and Mark Francois. All have the same general appearance and mischievous look which I assume you adopt when up to mischief on here

Low centres of gravity too

 

[PVA]

If Grendel is Mark Francois I'm picturing that MMB is Grant Shapps

Ah tiny little Mark, he holds such gravitas

 

[StrettoBoy]

This government was the party of the change remember

Sensibly they didn't promise that things would change for the better.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

This brings me back to something you dismissed in an earlier post. How do you measure a teacher's productivity? A nurse's?

You can't apply a profiteering mentality to running a school, hospital or a care home. Well you can try, and we've seen how it ends up.

On the macro level, the public sector produces less of it does and is measured on than pre-covid. Considering the technological advancements in the workplace, that tells you something.

So we can go around in circles talking about how to measuring what nurses/teachers produce… the bottom line is that the amount we’re expanding the public sector, we’re getting relatively zero gain.

I can see this is personal to you because you’re a teacher. No one is really questioning frontline staff, it’s more the expansion of the middle management and things like the civil service who are producing less. To go after an easy target, NHS trusts in 2022-24 (whenever it was) was hiring ‘Directors of DEI’ on 5 figure salaries in the middle of an NHS staff and waiting list crisis.

These rising costs have obvious implications on public services.

If Grendel is Mark Francois I'm picturing that MMB is Grant Shapps

Wow, that’s mean and my feelings are hurt.

You seem very triggered by this

The denialism and deflection on this topic is indicative of government employees as a whole.

There are plenty of civil servants on record saying they do next to nothing all day. Let’s ignore the swelling size of the public sector payroll and flatlining productivity.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

On the macro level, the public sector produces less of it does and is measured on than pre-covid. Considering the technological advancements in the workplace, that tells you something.

So we can go around in circles talking about how to measuring what nurses/teachers produce… the bottom line is that the amount we’re expanding the public sector, we’re getting relatively zero gain.

I can see this is personal to you because you’re a teacher. No one is really questioning frontline staff, it’s more the expansion of the middle management and things like the civil service who are producing less. To go after an easy target, NHS trusts in 2022-24 (whenever it was) was hiring ‘Directors of DEI’ on 5 figure salaries in the middle of an NHS staff and waiting list crisis.

These rising costs have obvious implications on public services.


Wow, that’s mean and my feelings are hurt.


The denialism and deflection on this topic is indicative of government employees as a whole.

There are plenty of civil servants on record saying they do next to nothing all day. Let’s ignore the swelling size of the public sector payroll and flatlining productivity.

Ah, I see, it's the civil service you want to cut down to size. Who and how many are you firing?

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

@Mucca Mad Boys and who says that the public sector isn't productive?

Since we’re exchanging playful barbs… Do you even understand the difference between revenue and profit?

 

[Grendel]

After another car crash interview by David Lammy surely it’s time for him to leave to the back benches

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Since we’re exchanging playful barbs… Do you even understand the difference between revenue and profit?

I mean this is a bit outside of my areas of expertise, but I just assumed that Gregg Wallace and John Torode weren't on £1 billion a year each.

 

[Grendel]

Ah tiny little Mark, he holds such gravitas

I hate to break this to you but I’m the same height as your beloved Mr Starmer and younger

Just please don’t rim me every day

 

[PVA]

I hate to break this to you but I’m the same height as your beloved Mr Starmer and younger

Just please don’t rim me every day

I never said anything about your height. You're so very weird.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

For you it's a close call between Nick Ferrari, Jim Davidson and Mark Francois. All have the same general appearance and mischievous look which I assume you adopt when up to mischief on here

10000% Jim Davidson

 

[Grendel]

I never said anything about your height. You're so very weird.

You had a height issue with Sunak I recall? Little Rishi?

 

[Grendel]

10000% Jim Davidson

As you claim to be a woman I’m guessing your trying to be the Miranda Hart of SBT but lacking in the comedy delivery

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

After another car crash interview by David Lammy surely it’s time for him to leave to the back benches

Not since the days of Chris Pincher has a politician’s surname described him so well

 

[rob9872]

Physical appearance wise imagine Ed Sheeran but with better facial hair, fashion sense and above all else, a better voice

Could be worse, one of my mates said "what have you been up to Levi", when Levi Bellfield got locked up insinuating I looked like him. Not the most flattering comparison.

 

[rob9872]

As you claim to be a woman I’m guessing your trying to be the Miranda Hart of SBT but lacking in the comedy delivery

Brutal!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Could be worse, one of my mates said "what have you been up to Levi", when Levi Bellfield got locked up insinuating I looked like him. Not the most flattering comparison.

Nah I've always pictured you as Jeremy Clarkson

 

[PVA]

You had a height issue with Sunak I recall? Little Rishi?

So I mentioned Francois' and Sunak's height then, not yours, so no idea what you're going on about.

 

[Grendel]

So I mentioned Francois' and Sunak's height then, not yours, so no idea what you're going on about.

Is lack of height a weakness as a political leader then?