Do you want to discuss boring politics? (34 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Some people do choose it as they don’t or can’t cope with responsibility

I would guess that the majority do so either to escape abuse or losing their homes

 

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[PVA]

Bank of England warns of growing risk that AI bubble could burst

Possibility of ‘sharp market correction has increased’, says Bank’s financial policy committee

www.theguardian.com

Who'd have thought it? Certainly not this genius....

Keir Starmer says technology can create a ‘better future’ as he addresses AI fears

Prime minister announces funding to boost UK’s artificial intelligence infrastructure in speech at London Tech Week

www.theguardian.com

What?

They are two different things.

 

[wingy]

That's my assumption, so if there are houses available for them, then they should be available to the homeless too.

But this is normal times 🫣
,you have to keep up all our illustrations, I mean how is the pound maintaining it's value otherwise?

 

[wingy]

What?

They are two different things.

What a strange thing to get annoyed about.

I'm assuming one of those articles is code,,!

 

[Grendel]

Look, my brother lived for some time as homeless. He was a serial liar who had a normal family life at one stage. He even won on the pools a sum which would be £300,000 now.

He then lied about going to work, lied about his home and hadn’t paid mortgage for years. He defrauded his in laws and then our own mother who was left penniless. I disowned him.

He was in and out of prison - going back to who he stole off as he money laundered for criminal gangs.

I had to re engage as he had terminal cancer. He did live then in a property but it was nothing more than a squat. He couldn’t cope with life. He was far happier he admitted on his own or in prison where everything was given him.

A lot of people are like he was. He didn’t want treatment for whatever mental heath issue he had as he didn’t see anything wrong with him.

When he first game out he forged my signature as guarantor on a flat - which he trashed. He treated the family home as a squat - didn’t wash up or clean anything - just left mould everywhere.

He died recently with hardly any money to his name and just shit to deal with.

He couldn’t cope with actual life and he’s not alone.

 

[Sick Boy]

So homeless because he was an addict in this case. Presumably not because he really wanted to live on the streets.

That's not exactly an unusual story, a friend's son went through something very similar. It's also far from the only reason people end up homeless.

What bothers me is when people pitch it as a lifestyle choice, and hence see no need to try do anything about it.

Unfortunately addiction has the power to lead you back to a life away from your home, your wife and son and on to the streets. I haven’t spoken to him for 3 years now and expect the next time I hear about him it’ll be to go to his funeral.

 

[Sick Boy]

Look, my brother lived for some time as homeless. He was a serial liar who had a normal family life at one stage. He even won on the pools a sum which would be £300,000 now.

He then lied about going to work, lied about his home and hadn’t paid mortgage for years. He defrauded his in laws and then our own mother who was left penniless. I disowned him.

He was in and out of prison - going back to who he stole off as he money laundered for criminal gangs.

I had to re engage as he had terminal cancer. He did live then in a property but it was nothing more than a squat. He couldn’t cope with life. He was far happier he admitted on his own or in prison where everything was given him.

A lot of people are like he was. He didn’t want treatment for whatever mental heath issue he had as he didn’t see anything wrong with him.

When he first game out he forged my signature as guarantor on a flat - which he trashed. He treated the family home as a squat - didn’t wash up or clean anything - just left mould everywhere.

He died recently with hardly any money to his name and just shit to deal with.

He couldn’t cope with actual life and he’s not alone.

Sorry to hear that. The not coping with life aspect is very true and it’s the same for my friend. There’s other stuff that I could post that would explain why he ended up returning down the path he went on but it’s not for me to share.

 

[Grendel]

Sorry to hear that. The not coping with life aspect is very true and it’s the same for my friend. There’s other stuff that I could post that would explain why he ended up returning down the path he went on but it’s not for me to share.

He was first time round in an open cat 4 prison. Thought it was great. He got me to get him fishing equipment and he watched sky sports.

There was some issues clearly with his childhood but you never knew fact from fiction.

Even when he was dying and I went to the hospital no one believed he had any relatives. He had done weird friends making his care decisions. He said I had died in a car accident 10 years ago in his notes and he had fathered a love child in Australia. She is a photographer in Oxford. She came to see him as well but it just summed him up.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He was first time round in an open cat 4 prison. Thought it was great. He got me to get him fishing equipment and he watched sky sports.

There was some issues clearly with his childhood but you never knew fact from fiction.

Even when he was dying and I went to the hospital no one believed he had any relatives. He had done weird friends making his care decisions. He said I had died in a car accident 10 years ago in his notes and he had fathered a love child in Australia. She is a photographer in Oxford. She came to see him as well but it just summed him up.

My grandad worked as a psychiatrist and was involved in evaluating prisoners’ parole claims. He mentioned one man who was allowed out for a few days and immediately attempted to rob a bank, just to get a longer stay inside because he was scared of going back into society.

So there’s undoubtedly some truth in what you’re saying. How we deal with it though I’m not sure, my hunch is that such people staying on the street will cost society even more than housing them and trying to reintegrate at least some of them.

 

[rob9872]

It's like Brooks in Shawshank

 

[Grendel]

My grandad worked as a psychiatrist and was involved in evaluating prisoners’ parole claims. He mentioned one man who was allowed out for a few days and immediately attempted to rob a bank, just to get a longer stay inside because he was scared of going back into society.

So there’s undoubtedly some truth in what you’re saying. How we deal with it though I’m not sure, my hunch is that such people staying on the street will cost society even more than housing them and trying to reintegrate at least some of them.

He was a former Alumni of your place as well

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Look, my brother lived for some time as homeless. He was a serial liar who had a normal family life at one stage. He even won on the pools a sum which would be £300,000 now.

He then lied about going to work, lied about his home and hadn’t paid mortgage for years. He defrauded his in laws and then our own mother who was left penniless. I disowned him.

He was in and out of prison - going back to who he stole off as he money laundered for criminal gangs.

I had to re engage as he had terminal cancer. He did live then in a property but it was nothing more than a squat. He couldn’t cope with life. He was far happier he admitted on his own or in prison where everything was given him.

A lot of people are like he was. He didn’t want treatment for whatever mental heath issue he had as he didn’t see anything wrong with him.

When he first game out he forged my signature as guarantor on a flat - which he trashed. He treated the family home as a squat - didn’t wash up or clean anything - just left mould everywhere.

He died recently with hardly any money to his name and just shit to deal with.

He couldn’t cope with actual life and he’s not alone.

Well done for doing all you could grendel
We know there are some but it’s not the majority far from it

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He was a former Alumni of your place as well

When was he there? Probably went with my dad

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

When was he there? Probably went with my dad

Or me

 

[rob9872]

Well done for doing all you could grendel
We know there are some but it’s not the majority far from it

I'd have thought it heartwarming for some of you on here to know G isn't the biggest c**t in his own family

 

[Sick Boy]

Very odd of you to mention me yesterday randomly on another topic, rather you tag me in it instead of acting like a child. Very strange small bloke you are, still at least it got you a few likes on here

It was a step up from @fernandopartridge ‘s dad jokes to be fair.

 

[Grendel]

Well done for doing all you could grendel
We know there are some but it’s not the majority far from it

It may not be the majority but people who are living on streets or temporary housing through addiction or mental health issues are not going to be easily homed.

I’ve had some pretty unfortunate situations with homeless people. Once some guy was begging outside McDonald’s saying he needed some money for a shelter. He was east European I think. I hadn’t got any. When I got home I got £10 and gave it him. He said he needed £15 and started threatening me.

I now only get food for them. The other week some bloke said he wanted chicken strips or something and I got some round things. He moaned and said that’s not what he wanted. I mean seriously.

 

[Grendel]

When was he there? Probably went with my dad

Oh gosh early 60’s until 72 I’d guess

 

[rob9872]

It was a step up from @fernandopartridge ‘s dad jokes to be fair.

Having a go at FP is fine, but a bit much to bring his family into into it

 

[Sick Boy]

Having a go at FP is fine, but a bit much to bring his family into into it

<groan>

 

[Sick Boy]

It may not be the majority but people who are living on streets or temporary housing through addiction or mental health issues are not going to be easily homed.

I’ve had some pretty unfortunate situations with homeless people. Once some guy was begging outside McDonald’s saying he needed some money for a shelter. He was east European I think. I hadn’t got any. When I got home I got £10 and gave it him. He said he needed £15 and started threatening me.

I now only get food for them. The other week some bloke said he wanted chicken strips or something and I got some round things. He moaned and said that’s not what he wanted. I mean seriously.

It’a very difficult and much more complex than some think. The last time I saw my friend he literally got a call to go to a housing appointment somewhere but instead chose to go off and drink on the street.

 

[rob9872]

Two Somalians are begging on the streets of Manchester for the same amount of time in the same area. One only collects a few coins each day, the other has a suitcase full of £10 notes, great car, mortgage free house, beautiful family and and lots of spare money to spend.

The first guy asks “How come I beg as long as you do and don’t get any of the same rewards?” The other says, “well look at your sign. It say’s you have a wife, six kids to support and another on the way”. He asked “Well what does yours say then?” The second guy turns it round to reveal “I only need another £10 to move back to Somalia”!

 

[Grendel]

It’a very difficult and much more complex than some think. The last time I saw my friend he literally got a call to go to a housing appointment somewhere but instead chose to go off and drink on the street.

Obviously people who are there as they cannot afford their rent or bankrupt and runaway children from abusive homes is very different.

However I think a lot are there for very different reasons

 

[fernandopartridge]

What?

They are two different things.

Yes, they are two different things, well done. One thing is an obvious bubble and the other is a prime minister putting tremendous faith in said obvious bubble.

 

[PVA]

Yes, they are two different things, well done. One thing is an obvious bubble and the other is a prime minister putting tremendous faith in said obvious bubble.

They're not remotely related but crack on I guess.

 

[Dougin]

Released to where though is the question? Obviously denied means out of the country (or should), but where do the accepted ones go? I assume they're not released onto the streets and if they're not, then my secondary question, was is that same route available for the homeless because I have suspicions that it isn't (but no facts to base those upon).

Parachute them over France where they came from.

 

[SBT]

If you want Britain to become a Muslim theocracy where criticism of the government is censored and almost everyone is an immigrant….vote Reform!

UK must emulate UAE or go bust, says Reform UK’s Richard Tice

Britain must stop being decadent and follow the Emirates’ example of energy, ambition and pride, says party’s deputy leader

www.arabianbusiness.com

 

[SBAndy]

A childhood friend of mine became homeless a few years ago after getting addicted to heroin over 10 years ago. When we were in contact he turned down multiple attempts to help him from authorities and even us giving him money on the condition he gave you drugs.

Is he called Spud?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

If you want Britain to become a Muslim theocracy where criticism of the government is censored and almost everyone is an immigrant….vote Reform!

UK must emulate UAE or go bust, says Reform UK’s Richard Tice

Britain must stop being decadent and follow the Emirates’ example of energy, ambition and pride, says party’s deputy leader

www.arabianbusiness.com

Was reminded today about you have to design the society without knowing what role or start you are given
Tice assumes he’ll be the leader rather than the person in prison for adultery

 

[rob9872]

Is he called Spud?

Potato

 

[Grendel]

Was reminded today about you have to design the society without knowing what role or start you are given
Tice assumes he’ll be the leader rather than the person in prison for adultery

The country is the ultimate example of hypocrisy - I’ve seen more prostitutes in the hotels there than Thailand

 

[fernandopartridge]

Is this any good for you Mr Trump? Imagine being as stupid to vote for this dweeb

 

[fernandopartridge]

Your water bills have just gone up 70% because clearly we're running out, likewise energy, and yet....

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Tory's desperately scraping the barrel by staying they will scrap stamp duty.

 

[Sick Boy]

Is this any good for you Mr Trump? Imagine being as stupid to vote for this dweeb

He has the backbone of a worm.