Do you want to discuss boring politics? (19 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Pete]

They’re more principled than me and want a principled approach to a sustainable future

They’re also politically engaged which for 25, 22 and 18 year olds makes me pretty proud

 

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[TomRad85]

They’re more principled than me and want a principled approach to a sustainable future

The one who bought another buy to let property will be delighted when the commie tit hypnotist rips them away. Luckily the majority won't be so daft as to vote for them so it's easy to vote 'principled' without having to worry.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Pretty disgraceful this

UK deaths of 1,611 homeless people in 2024 is record high

Most are linked to suicide or drugs, with spice and nitazines increasingly deadly.

www.bbc.co.uk

Just hearing some stats listening to ex army and prisoners it’s pretty horrendous
But hey it’s those on the boats fault and Islam

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The one who bought another buy to let property will be delighted when the commie tit hypnotist rips them away. Luckily the majority won't be so daft as to vote for them so it's easy to vote principled without having to sorry.

Hence why most young people don’t engage with politics cause the grown ups know better eh ffs

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Just hearing some stats listening to ex army and prisoners it’s pretty horrendous
But hey it’s those on the boats fault and Islam

Homelessness is common but it isn’t normal

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Homelessness is common but it isn’t normal

71% of prisoners released without accommodation reoffend within 12 months
19% reoffend with accommodation
Madness

 

[Dougin]

71% of prisoners released without accommodation reoffend within 12 months
19% reoffend with accommodation
Madness

They would probably re offend anyway to get money for the drugs they got heavily addicted to whilst inside prison.

The biggest scandal is I think prisons are just far too easy to get drugs into. Part of me thinks they are not bothered as a prisoners are easier to deal with if they’re getting high.

 

[Grendel]

Not if they live in constituencies where the Greens can win.

I can’t see them doing very well with the nutjob they have in charge now

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I can’t see them doing very well with the nutjob they have in charge now

I don’t see them losing the constituencies they gained at the last election, mostly in very left wing areas with lots of dissatisfaction at the Labour Party.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

They would probably re offend anyway to get money for the drugs they got heavily addicted to whilst inside prison.

The biggest scandal is I think prisons are just far too easy to get drugs into. Part of me thinks they are not bothered as a prisoners are easier to deal with if they’re getting high.

The stats are the stats my friend
Drugs are a huge issue but far from making prisoners easier to deal with it means the prison is completely unsafe and as the first principle of the job is safety then rehabilitation then it’s extremely important

 

[SBAndy]

Well that's a few wasted votes. Might as well take the ballot paper home and wipe your arse on it.

A cracking example of recycling.

 

[duffer]

71% of prisoners released without accommodation reoffend within 12 months
19% reoffend with accommodation
Madness

To be honest, I'm surprised the re-offending rate is that low. If you're homeless you've got very little support, and even less chance of getting a job.

It's an open door into crappy low level crime like shoplifting and theft, and drugs and alcoholism of course. Just locking people up to put them back into the same cycle a few months or year or so later is madness. Expensive too.

 

[Grendel]

To be honest, I'm surprised the re-offending rate is that low. If you're homeless you've got very little support, and even less chance of getting a job.

It's an open door into crappy low level crime like shoplifting and theft, and drugs and alcoholism of course. Just locking people up to put them back into the same cycle a few months or year or so later is madness. Expensive too.

Perhaps we should give ex cons free houses

 

[Marty]

71% of prisoners released without accommodation reoffend within 12 months
19% reoffend with accommodation
Madness

I don't want to talk about something I have little knowledge (it's never stopped me before). A friend of mine worked with the homeless and the amount of people that refused accommodation or refused any sort of help blew her mind. She said they earn more money begging on the streets and they get more freedom too.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don't want to talk about something I have little knowledge (it's never stopped me before). A friend of mine worked with the homeless and the amount of people that refused accommodation or refused any sort of help blew her mind. She said they earn more money begging on the streets and they get more freedom too.

If that’s true it’s pretty incredible

 

[SBT]

Badenoch really is a tragic figure in many ways. The first black leader of a political party in this country, and the Tories decide to pivot towards ethnic nationalism behind her back.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I quite like Polanski and liked his video promoting the green's. Seems fairly normal.

 

[wingy]

Needs a new scheme.
Adopt a human (ex prisoner)
Give them House's to convert into abode's like that big build scheme in Manchester for ex services etc ?

 

[chiefdave]

Pretty disgraceful this

UK deaths of 1,611 homeless people in 2024 is record high

Most are linked to suicide or drugs, with spice and nitazines increasingly deadly.

www.bbc.co.uk

That's pretty horrific. Seems like homeless people are often forgotten about and its a problem that's certainly getting worse.

 

[nicksar]

If that’s true it’s pretty incredible

Beggars in London with a decent spot make an average of 250 to 300 quid a day.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That's pretty horrific. Seems like homeless people are often forgotten about and its a problem that's certainly getting worse.

I don’t think anyone should be homeless unless by choice. Though if it is more profitable to be on the street, that’s shocking in itself

 

[Nick]

I don’t think anyone should be homeless unless by choice. Though if it is more profitable to be on the street, that’s shocking in itself

Think it depends, there are definitely professional beggars and people who do it just for the money as opposed to people who really are homless and on their arse and really need the help.

Even in Cov there are gangs of beggars so I imagine in places like London it will be off the scale. I used to work in Nottingham and the amount of people sleeping in doorways was mental.

 

[Grendel]

I don’t think anyone should be homeless unless by choice. Though if it is more profitable to be on the street, that’s shocking in itself

It is possible to be institutionalised into it. Even the bbc article says many of the deaths occur in temporary accommodation. Same as prison.

 

[PVA]

I don't want to talk about something I have little knowledge (it's never stopped me before). A friend of mine worked with the homeless and the amount of people that refused accommodation or refused any sort of help blew her mind. She said they earn more money begging on the streets and they get more freedom too.

We keep getting told our welfare system is too generous and too easy to game, leading to all these people coming over on boats to live a life of luxury and handouts. Now we're saying people are better off living on the streets. I can't keep up!

 

[fernandopartridge]

Starmers claim to have negotiated the uk closer to Europe going well

EU steel tariff hike threatens 'biggest crisis' for UK industry - BBC News

The EU is the destination for 78% of steel products made in the UK for overseas markets.

www.bbc.co.uk

Similar to his sucking up to Trump in America. 25% tariffs there.

If this story shows anything it's that Starmer humiliating himself with that idiot Trump is a pointless endeavour.

 

[Grendel]

We keep getting told our welfare system is too hrbtoid) generous and too easy to game, leading to all these people coming over on boats to live a life of luxury and handouts. Now we're saying people are better off living on the streets. I can't keep up!

it’s to do with being institutionalised into a way of living it’s pretty obvious if you can actually be bothered to think about it

 

[fernandopartridge]

it’s to do with being institutionalised into a way of living it’s pretty obvious if you can actually be bothered to think about it

In a strange way there is probably more of a sense of community living on the streets with others. Definitely appears that way in Manchester.

The hard reality is that giving money to beggars is wrong.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It is possible to be institutionalised into it. Even the bbc article says many of the deaths occur in temporary accommodation. Same as prison.

Pretty dystopian thing to be institutionalised into, and a sad state of affairs.

 

[duffer]

Just to check, there's no one here conflating professional begging with homelessness is there?

Or saying that homelessness, at least for the vast majority of people who find themselves in that situation, is a lifestyle choice?

That would seem to be a remarkably unsympathetic approach to a genuine problem.

Homelessness is not a lifestyle choice - Shelter England

Let’s be very clear. Homelessness is not a lifestyle choice. This is what the home secretary claimed on Saturday when apparently confirming a report that the government intends to introduce legislatio...

england.shelter.org.uk

 

[PVA]

it’s to do with being institutionalised into a way of living it’s pretty obvious if you can actually be bothered to think about it

God I bet you're fun at parties.

 

[Sick Boy]

They would probably re offend anyway to get money for the drugs they got heavily addicted to whilst inside prison.

The biggest scandal is I think prisons are just far too easy to get drugs into. Part of me thinks they are not bothered as a prisoners are easier to deal with if they’re getting high.

Probably true to an extent. Most of it will staff taking them in as well and let’s face it, there’s hardly a queue of people looking to do the job.

 

[Sick Boy]

I don't want to talk about something I have little knowledge (it's never stopped me before). A friend of mine worked with the homeless and the amount of people that refused accommodation or refused any sort of help blew her mind. She said they earn more money begging on the streets and they get more freedom too.

A childhood friend of mine became homeless a few years ago after getting addicted to heroin over 10 years ago. When we were in contact he turned down multiple attempts to help him from authorities and even us giving him money on the condition he gave you drugs.

 

[Grendel]

Just to check, there's no one here conflating professional begging with homelessness is there?

Or saying that homelessness, at least for the vast majority of people who find themselves in that situation, is a lifestyle choice?

That would seem to be a remarkably unsympathetic approach to a genuine problem.

Homelessness is not a lifestyle choice - Shelter England

Let’s be very clear. Homelessness is not a lifestyle choice. This is what the home secretary claimed on Saturday when apparently confirming a report that the government intends to introduce legislatio...

england.shelter.org.uk

Once again Duffer bundles into a thread which he has zero knowledge of regarding the subject matter

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

They’re also politically engaged which for 25, 22 and 18 year olds makes me pretty proud

They are voting green? How embarrassing can you get

 

[mmttww]

How embarrassing can you get