Do you want to discuss boring politics? (13 Viewers)
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fernandopartridge
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It isn't. He was elected leader of the party based on a pack of lies.
Newsflash - that's what leaders do.
And yet he still hasn't cheated and lied his way through life, been sacked in every job he's ever had etc etc. Again, to compare the two's character is ridiculous.
Starmer has contributed to this country, Johnson is a stain on it.
Sick Boy
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Erm, you questioned his integrity and compared it to Johnson's.
That is quite literally comparing their character
fernandopartridge
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PVA says being a liar is OK as that's what leaders must do to retain power
fernandopartridge
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rob9872
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Brilliant, we're now arguing over which party has the biggest bunch of cunts. Do you not get it? You don't get to be in those positions unless you're a total prick initially on a local level and then on a party level, treading over all and sundry in your way to get you to the top. There are no colours in this and I include Reform, Lib dem and Independent too. All out to feather their own nest and anyone who thinks differently is delusional.
All we can hope is that whichever bunch of corrupt, backtracking lying charlatans cheat their way into power, that throughout their tenure, they do some things that we agree with and like. I may be cynical and it might be a terrible indictment on our political system, but they're all cunts.
... even with all that said, most of Europe is similar and yet still probably the least corrupt continent for power and authority. The world is fucked, try to have some fun on your way through.
All we can hope is that whichever bunch of corrupt, backtracking lying charlatans cheat their way into power, that throughout their tenure, they do some things that we agree with and like. I may be cynical and it might be a terrible indictment on our political system, but they're all cunts.
... even with all that said, most of Europe is similar and yet still probably the least corrupt continent for power and authority. The world is fucked, try to have some fun on your way through.
fernandopartridge
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Sick Boy
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Desperate times for the sycophants.
I didn't say it was OK, but crack on.
Ironic when you've just claimed you didn't say something that is there in black and white.
Ccfcisparks
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Starmer is doing that bad a job I'm surprised Grendel hasn't started referring to him by his full name like he does with Anthony Charles Lynton Blair
rob9872
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Ccfcisparks
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Yes Stephen Yaxley Lennon is doing a terrible job I'm glad you agree Rob!!
rob9872
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He's a c**t, I just hate it when people use his name the same with Blair, Johnson etc. We all know who they are, it's just a terrible version of oneupmanship (imo) a bit like I also hate the terms: Gammon, snowflake, woke, Karen etc etc.
Sorry I realise I'm just a miserable old curmudgeon!
chiefdave
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would be absolutely hilarious if Labour changed the rules thinking it will gain them votes then the majority of the votes go to other parties.
rob9872
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I'm not sure. They might be new and fresh, but the young possibly aren't as fed up with what's going on and as disenfranchised with the main offering as adults are. I can see Green being the biggest winners there.
Having said that, my daughter is nearly 18. No interest, knows nothing about politics and beyond Starmer couldn't name a politician on either side of the house.
Ccfcisparks
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10000% reform will get a lot more voters from that generation than people realise.
Social media and Tiktok are making an extremely racist generation
shmmeee
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Don’t you live in Italy?
Ccfcisparks
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Ah ok forgot you can't comment on politics if you dont live in that country.
Sick Boy
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Does that exclude me from being able to take part in conversations about it?
shmmeee
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No just informs your input is all.
Sick Boy
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Hahaha classic.
shmmeee
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Would you give my opinion as much weight as yours on Italian politics?
rob9872
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I'm not sure that's true (possibly your feed lol) in seriousness, maybe the things you engage with. My daughter's main follows (apart from the City of course she's been brought up well
) are all Central Cee, Sidemen, Jude Bellingham, Gavi (although that's because she fancies the latter two!). Her main friendship group is way more diverse than mine in colour, religion and sexuality. In fact brought it home to me when I thought of characteristics that I'd describe someone with, even friends, I'd have said the ginger guy, the fat guy, the black guy, the bald guy, the tall guy etc. I collected her from her best mate's house who is Columbian, at the same time three lads came out, one Asian, one black, one white and that's how I'd have described them if asked, nothing racist just an observation (btw it's not a modern take one an Englishman, Irishman, Scot's man joke
). She said something about 'Curran' I said which one is Curran, and she replied 'the one with the grey jumper'. Of course she's right and I'm wrong, but the fact she didn't see it and made that observation, made me question my own sub-conscious. Appreciate that's a very small sample size and not everyone is the same, but I believe lots more of it in her generation and I think older generations are way more racist, social media etc has just given a platform where posters think they can be anonymous and say what they wouldn't say in the 'real world' and think it has no consequences.
Ccfcisparks
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Yes potentially. I agree wiht your last point. I think it does give people a position to say it anonymously which is why I think there appears to be a rise in it. I tried to limit my X account to not see that crap but it seems like its just thrown in your face at the moment!!I'm not sure that's true (possibly your feed lol) in seriousness, maybe the things you engage with. My daughter's main follows (apart from the City of course she's been brought up well
Her main friendship group is way more diverse than mine in colour, religion and sexuality. In fact brought it home to me when I thought of characteristics that I'd describe someone with, even friends, I'd have said the ginger guy, the fat guy, the black guy, the bald guy, the tall guy etc. I collected her from her best mate's house who is Columbian, at the same time three lads came out, one Asian, one black, one white and that's how I'd have described them if asked, nothing racist just an observation (btw it's not a modern take one an Englishman, Irishman, Scot's man joke
Appreciate that's a very small sample size and not everyone is the same, but I believe lots more of it in her generation and I think older generations are way more racist, social media etc has just given a platform where posters think they can be anonymous and say what they wouldn't say in the 'real world' and think it has no consequences.
Sick Boy
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I would do if you’d spent most of your life living in Italy, were born in Italy and had an active interest in Italy and Italian politics, yes.