Do you want to discuss boring politics? (31 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

Not because you are lol.
Corbyn, Sultana, Lynch

Corbyn is the leader, that Gary Barlow if you will. The girls love him and he’s clearly the one at the forefront.

Sultana is the eye candy, nice to look at, but don’t get on the wrong side of her because she has a fiery side

Mick is the enforcer, the strong silent type. Doesn’t say much, but he gets the job done. Deep down he’s a lover at heart though. He just needs someone to break through that tough eco-skeleton

 

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[Mcbean]

i will support anyone who will bring down the current bunch of muppets in charge - for that one and only reason and my support will end when that happens

 

[shmmeee]

i will support anyone who will bring down the current bunch of muppets in charge - for that one and only reason and my support will end when that happens

The politics of a toddler at dinner.

 

[chiefdave]

Corbyn, Sultana, Lynch

3 at the back? Going to need some decent backups. Not sure Corbyn has the stamina for every game and Lynch is bound to get himself sent off and suspended.

 

[Mcbean]

The politics of a toddler at dinner.

similar to many politicians then

 

[rob9872]

Scargill and Kinnock in front of the back 3 so will need some pace out wide. I reckon Thunberg and Owen Jones could add that with their youth as two of my other hated individuals. Ed Miliband in the 10, Blair up top.

 

[wingy]

Strange word that Income/incoming.

 

[tisza]

I reckon we'll see more independent Muslim MPs (double figures) in next Parliament than MPs from the new Corbyn/Sultana/Lynch party. Whether they align with traditional Labour, the new party or form an independent bloc remains to be seen.

 

[Captain Dart]

The politics of a toddler at dinner.

Thanks Mr Labour at all costs no matter how they screw us.

 

[Sick Boy]

i will support anyone who will bring down the current bunch of muppets in charge - for that one and only reason and my support will end when that happens

They’re doing a decent job of that themselves.

 

[Captain Dart]

I reckon we'll see more independent Muslim MPs (double figures) in next Parliament than MPs from the new Corbyn/Sultana/Lynch party. Whether they align with traditional Labour, the new party or form an independent bloc remains to be seen.

But... but .. diversity is our strength innit?

We'll see how it pans out, I doubt anyone can predict right now, I'd actually be surprised if Sultana holds on to her seat.

 

[shmmeee]

Thanks Mr Labour at all costs no matter how they screw us.

No worries Mr “any old crank who tells me I don’t have to face difficult choices”

 

[SBT]

I reckon we'll see more independent Muslim MPs (double figures) in next Parliament than MPs from the new Corbyn/Sultana/Lynch party. Whether they align with traditional Labour, the new party or form an independent bloc remains to be seen.

Which constituencies? Would be pretty unprecedented given how small and concentrated the Muslim vote is, I don’t see how double figures is feasible at all.

 

[shmmeee]

Which constituencies? Would be pretty unprecedented given how small and concentrated the Muslim vote is, I don’t see how double figures is feasible at all.

There are three majority Muslim constituencies in the UK and all have a Labour MP who won against a Muslim independent in 2024.

 

[SBT]

There are three majority Muslim constituencies in the UK and all have a Labour MP who won against a Muslim independent in 2024.

I suspect people are somewhat overestimating both the size of the Muslim population and the coherence/importance of ‘the Muslim vote’.

 

[tisza]

But... but .. diversity is our strength innit?

We'll see how it pans out, I doubt anyone can predict right now, I'd actually be surprised if Sultana holds on to her seat.

Purely based on recent voting patterns - local and national.

Which constituencies? Would be pretty unprecedented given how small and concentrated the Muslim vote is, I don’t see how double figures is feasible at all.

twenty constituencies with at least 30% Muslim population.

There are three majority Muslim constituencies in the UK and all have a Labour MP who won against a Muslim independent in 2024.

2 of those by the skin of their teeth - vote share from previous elections halved. 2 where if just 1 independent Muslim had stood (rather than 2 or more) they'd have lost their seats.

 

[SBT]

twenty constituencies with at least 30% Muslim population.

30% vote share isn’t always enough to win a seat, assuming that every eligible Muslim votes for the same candidate, which they won’t.

 

[tisza]

I suspect people are somewhat overestimating both the size of the Muslim population and the coherence/importance of ‘the Muslim vote’.

Estimated to be in the region of 3.5 million voters by next general election. As for cohesion it has traditionally tended to be in the 75% + for Labour

 

[tisza]

30% vote share isn’t always enough to win a seat, assuming that every eligible Muslim votes for the same candidate, which they won’t.

nearly 40 seats were won with less than a 33% share last GE. You're also making an assumption that non-Muslims wouldn't vote for an independent Muslim candidate.
Entering a new age where traditional voting patterns are falling away.

 

[shmmeee]

Purely based on recent voting patterns - local and national.

twenty constituencies with at least 30% Muslim population.

2 of those by the skin of their teeth - vote share from previous elections halved. 2 where if just 1 independent Muslim had stood (rather than 2 or more) they'd have lost their seats.

Voters aren’t Lego and you don’t know how people would have voted with different parties or different narratives going in.

 

[shmmeee]

nearly 40 seats were won with less than a 33% share last GE. You're also making an assumption that non-Muslims wouldn't vote for an independent Muslim candidate.
Entering a new age where traditional voting patterns are falling away.

I think you’re vastly overestimating the number of people who want to vote for openly religious regressive and misogynistic candidates tbh.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Serious issues for anybody that would vote for a party with them 2 clowns in, be hilarious when they split the vote though

Then you say you're going to vote for a party made up entirely of clowns.

 

[Mcbean]

It’s kept Khan in power as Londons Mayor

 

[SBT]

It’s kept Khan in power as Londons Mayor

He won by 11%! It’s a largely irrelevant constituency.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Any new ideas apart from private credit expansion?

 

[shmmeee]

Any new ideas apart from private credit expansion?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Then you say you're going to vote for a party made up entirely of clowns.

Going by the polls, I’d say reform are the most popular party made up entirely of ‘clowns’

 

[Nick]

Any new ideas apart from private credit expansion?

Might pick up some repossessed bargains

 

[wingy]

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How does it effect the age old argument on here about affordability?

 

[wingy]

The mainstay of our economic ambition,the other stuff is just superfluous nonsense!

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Going by the polls, I’d say reform are the most popular party made up entirely of ‘clowns’

But still clowns.

 

[shmmeee]

How does it affect the age old argument on here about affordability?

It makes it worse.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Planning had been a shitshow and population has grown rapidly over 15-20 years. What did people expect ?

Again, no acknowledgement of trade offs, if people want loose borders it will cause significant demand on housing, especially in a world where planning is a mess and we have an aging demographic

The attempt to squeeze landlords to get more properties onto the owner occupier market has, unsurprisingly, reduced the private rental availability (when compared with rising population), and together with high interest rates* has caused an increase in rents making it harder for people to save for deposits

The real world means there’s unintended consequences and needs joined up to thinking and tough decisions, many on the ideological left (and on the right to be fait) don’t seem to quite get this.

*caused by continued sticky inflation

 

[shmmeee]

Planning had been a shitshow and population has grown rapidly over 15-20 years. What did people expect ?

Again, no acknowledgement of trade offs, if people want loose borders it will cause significant demand on housing, especially in a world where planning is a mess and we have an aging demographic

The attempt to squeeze landlords to get more properties onto the owner occupier market has, unsurprisingly, reduced the private rental availability (when compared with rising population), and together with high interest rateshas caused an increase in rents making it harder for people to save for deposits

The real world means there’s unintended consequences and needs joined up to thinking and tough decisions, many on the ideological left (and on the right to be fait) don’t seem to quite get this.

*caused by continued sticky inflation

yawn immigration again. Except that’s not where the crisis started. Just another attempt not to engage with actual demographic change because we can blame the brown people again.

 

[CCFCSteve]

yawn immigration again. Except that’s not where the crisis started. Just another attempt not to engage with actual demographic change because we can blame the brown people again.

How many times shmmeee, you can try to make this a racist argument if you want but as half my old team and quite a few mates/contacts in my phone are ‘brown’ I find that offensive

I’m talking about uncontrolled immigration, when infrastructure and house building can’t keep up especially when there’s no planning for it. I’ve explained this numerous times

ps you might not have noticed but over the last 15-20 years a lot of the immigration was white.