The first sentence should be easy enough to verify. To prove the second though, you’ll need evidence that similar crimes carried out by white British people were still investigated, or investigated more thoroughly than those by other groups.
I genuinely don’t know if that is the case.
Why bring it up? It hasn’t been brought up in the report.
It’s odd that you and Shhmeee talk about ‘inappropriate relationships’ between 16-17 year olds and people in their 20s. Yes, it’s odd but the legal age of consent is 16. The report is talking about specific organised gangs that targeted underage girls that were vastly overrepresented in certain ethnic groups.
The actual scandal is that the authorities knew what was going on but did not investigate suspects/prosecute perpetrators to the fullest extent of the law because they were concerned with being labelled racist and ‘inflaming community tensions’. This obviously exacerbated the problems in those communities because perpetrators were given carte blanche to commit offences.
There’s testimonies of ex-Labour MPs where they were told by party HQ to specifically not mention the ethnicity of offenders. Likewise, Dominic Cummings claims he’s seen documents where the DoE has been involved in cover ups.
And here was I thinking this was a scandal about girls being abused.
Make no mistake, the attempts to play down the ethnic elements of this abuse which may have helped to allow it to continue are an outrageous scandal, and if this enquiry brings those responsible to justice then I’m all for it. But if it serves as a vehicle to turn this scandal solely into a question of the merits of multiculturalism then I don’t see how that properly serves the victims.
It’s a scandal. Not only did establishment know about it, they gaslit the public by insisting that white perpetrators were the problem and therefore, any focus on other ethnic group meant you were racist and didn’t actually care about victims.
Incidents like this really does call into question the UK’s immigration policies post-1997. If our society fragments into community of communities, that’s not good. Different cultures have different values and what happens if this becomes a source of conflict?
Yes it is and I’ve explained how that is downstream of the issue of accepting teenagers in inappropriate relationships. The stats show Pakistani origin men are overrepresented. Not that it’s exclusively Pakistani men. Kick all Pakistanis out as Douglas Carswell is currently arguing would not solve this problem.
What is the policy solution you are proposing? Is it by any chance “stop all immigration” like it is for every other policy challenge in the country?
It’s not a downstream and you’re fundamentally wrong on this. There’s not ‘relationships’, this is systemic raping of young girls where often there were 10s of people involved. In fact, there are multiple testimonies of people where they claimed to name around 100 perpetrators. This isn’t a ‘downstream of accepting teenagers in inappropriate relationships’.
Douglas Carswell wants to deport all offenders. Which, find me an ordinary person who doesn’t want to deport violent criminals? Even a majority of Green voters would deport criminals where sexual assault is concerned. This is a policy that is overwhelmingly supported by the public yet you mock it as extreme. Out of touch.
The policies? Be more selective when granting visas of low income migrants and deport foreign criminals and if the ECHR or Human Rights Act prevents this, then we need to look at amending the HRA and/or leaving the ECHR.
The ‘stop all immigration’ trope is just you lashing out because you’ve got no facts to fall back on.
