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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (25 Viewers)

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chiefdave

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,691
Deleted member 5849 said:
Am I allowed to ask the context? Sunak or Hancock?
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,692
Lying c**t.

It won't matter of course. The whole inquiry was pretty pointless really let's be honest.


 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,693
PVA said:
Lying c**t.

It won't matter of course. The whole inquiry was pretty pointless really let's be honest.


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Which inquiry?

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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,694
What’s that saying about honour amongst thieves?
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,695
Election in May 2024. Govt departments have been sent mail regarding this.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,696
fernandopartridge said:
Which inquiry?

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The one where, when questioned under oath, it was perfectly acceptable to say you can't remember anything about it, or to say that you lost all messages during that time (only to post one for the world to see a few days later).
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,697
PVA said:
The one where, when questioned under oath, it was perfectly acceptable to say you can't remember anything about it, or to say that you lost all messages during that time (only to post one for the world to see a few days later).
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Didn’t government lawyers draft the paperwork that he’d lost his phone? The pack is falling and it’s infighting that’s doing it. Hilarious.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,698
PVA said:
The one where, when questioned under oath, it was perfectly acceptable to say you can't remember anything about it, or to say that you lost all messages during that time (only to post one for the world to see a few days later).
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The statement he made under oath was for a claim in the high court against DHSC in relation to a breach of PCR2015 wasn't it?



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Grendel

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,699
I think using Mrs Mone as a member of the prosecution is on somewhat flaky ground
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,700
skybluetony176 said:
Didn’t government lawyers draft the paperwork that he’d lost his phone? The pack is falling and it’s infighting that’s doing it. Hilarious.
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Government lawyers are independent of the government, I wouldn't blame them for submitting a statement to court he'll have made a statement of truth on.

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,701
Grendel said:
I think using Mrs Mone as a member of the prosecution is on somewhat flaky ground
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Could start to warm to her a little if she took down some of the other crooks and liars with her mind you.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,702
fernandopartridge said:
The statement he made under oath was for a claim in the high court against DHSC in relation to a breach of PCR2015 wasn't it?



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Yes, seems you are correct.

But the fact remains he said he no longer had messages from that time period when he was being questioned over potentially dodgy PPE contracts. But has miraculously found them two years later to try an bury someone else.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,703
Grendel said:
I think using Mrs Mone as a member of the prosecution is on somewhat flaky ground
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No prosecution needed, he exposed himself as a liar. Monumentally stupid.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,704
PVA said:
Yes, seems you are correct.

But the fact remains he said he no longer had messages from that time period when he was being questioned over potentially dodgy PPE contracts. But has miraculously found them two years later to try an bury someone else.
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To be honest it doesn't matter as apparently statements to the COVID inquiry are made under oath in the same way that they are to the High Court. I'd say he should be done for perjury if the messages are from the same phone he claims to have lost.

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David O'Day

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,705
Lord Bethell is likely to get called to the inquiry anyway as he was an important minister during the crisis so we will get tp see him try and explain this,
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,706
PVA said:
No prosecution needed, he exposed himself as a liar. Monumentally stupid.
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There doesn’t even need to a prosecution? No trial? Just lock him up?
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,707
fernandopartridge said:
To be honest it doesn't matter as apparently statements to the COVID inquiry are made under oath in the same way that they are to the High Court. I'd say he should be done for perjury if the messages are from the same phone he claims to have lost.

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Yes agreed.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,708
Grendel said:
There doesn’t even need to a prosecution? No trial? Just lock him up?
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Yes of course, that is literally what I meant.
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,709
Peter Bone MP loses seat as recall petition triggers by-election Peter Bone MP loses seat as recall petition triggers by-election

Surely enough is enough by now?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,710
BodicoteSkyBlue said:
Peter Bone MP loses seat as recall petition triggers by-election Peter Bone MP loses seat as recall petition triggers by-election

Surely enough is enough by now?
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Have some thought please @Ian1779 will now be on suicide watch

Ian - stay safe - Bill Cash is still an MP
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,711
If any business or organisation had so many people accused of sexual misconduct it'd (rightly) be a national scandal, there'd be inquiries and investigations, and the organisation would be brought to its knees.

Yet the fucking government is full of them and it's just the norm these days.

Absolutely bonkers really.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,712
If I was Mone or her old man and thinking of taking a few down I wouldn’t go out on the boat too often the edges are notoriously slippy and probably not wise to go for a walk in the park either.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,713
18k majority, tough to overcome
 

Ian1779

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,714
Grendel said:
Have some thought please @Ian1779 will now be on suicide watch

Ian - stay safe - Bill Cash is still an MP
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I’ve completed my therapy - I was one of the 13.2% that signed the petition.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,715
Ian1779 said:
I’ve completed my therapy - I was one of the 13.2% that signed the petition.
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Is that the abv?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,716
Cultural vandalism btw

Ministry of Justice plan to destroy historical wills is ‘insane’, say experts

Department hopes to save £4.5m a year by digitising – then binning – about 100m wills that date back 150 years
www.theguardian.com
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Dec 20, 2023
  • #32,717
So, is the US moving towards a civil uprising? Trump out?
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 20, 2023
  • #32,718
Flying Fokker said:
So, is the US moving towards a civil uprising? Trump out?
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Huh? Trump is off the ballot in Colorado, but even if the Supreme Court don’t overturn the state’s decision (remember he appointed 3 of the 7 justices) then it likely won’t have any impact on either the Republican primary (which he will win anyway) or the general (where he was unlikely to win Colorado anyway).
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 20, 2023
  • #32,719
PVA said:
Lying c**t.

It won't matter of course. The whole inquiry was pretty pointless really let's be honest.


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Not the brightest are they ?!

ps some good news. Think I mentioned last week 10 year bond yields, which lenders use as one of the barometers for mortgages, already dropping loads recently (now around 3.5%), BoE also more likely to reduce rate sooner than expected if inflation stays on this trajectory. Mortgage/lending rates should drop a bit next near. Also usually good for shares etc….well until possible/likely recession hits


 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2023
  • #32,720
What price a Trump win and a surprise Tory majority in 2025. 20
CCFCSteve said:
Not the brightest are they ?!

ps some good news. Think I mentioned last week 10 year bond yields, which lenders use as one of the barometers for mortgages, already dropping loads recently (now around 3.5%), BoE also more likely to reduce rate sooner than expected if inflation stays on this trajectory. Mortgage/lending rates should drop a bit next near. Also usually good for shares etc….well until possible/likely recession hits


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I just fixed mine for two years so of course this happens.

You’re welcome everybody.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 20, 2023
  • #32,721
shmmeee said:
What price a Trump win and a surprise Tory majority in 2025. 20


I just fixed mine for two years so of course this happens.

You’re welcome everybody.
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Sorry to hear that. Always the case isn’t it. To be fair, if inflation re-accelerates might still be a good move. Don’t see rates plummeting next year anyway, they should drop a bit though
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 20, 2023
  • #32,722
CCFCSteve said:
Sorry to hear that. Always the case isn’t it. To be fair, if inflation re-accelerates might still be a good move. Don’t see rates plummeting next year anyway, they should drop a bit though
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We’re currently heading towards another Suez crisis with carriers avoiding the Red Sea due to attacks on shipping from Yemen. BP diverting tankers around Africa so it’s not a stretch to see fuel at the pump going up in the new year with the knock on effect going to affect everything else. We’re net importers and with other shipping lines doing the same there could well be a period of shortages and the extra cost of taking the long route being passed down to consumers. All a knock on effect from the Israel’s war in Gaza, rebels from Yemen are attacking international shipping in solidarity with Palestinians. Actually quite a good tactic in some respects, watch the international community pile the pressure on Israel now. Children dying in their thousands through indiscriminate bombing, knock yourselves out. Wait, what, it’s effecting us directly. You must stop now.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Dec 20, 2023
  • #32,723
fernandopartridge said:
Which inquiry?

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Why the fuck is this scheduled to run for 3 years minimum? What a pointless & pathetic waste of time & resource.....

Sweden had already completed their inquiry & implemented many actions on the back of it before the UK inquiry had even started.

This country is so shit at doing anything efficiently.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 20, 2023
  • #32,724
shmmeee said:
What price a Trump win and a surprise Tory majority in 2025. 20


I just fixed mine for two years so of course this happens.

You’re welcome everybody.
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Yeah still got 18 months on mine at peak rate. tbh the gamble was two years and things get better - am a bit shafted if they get worse!
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 20, 2023
  • #32,725
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yeah still got 18 months on mine at peak rate. tbh the gamble was two years and things get better - am a bit shafted if they get worse!
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Always sensible to fix if you’re pushing the limits mate. I remember being stuck on 6% for a while for my first place, painful at the time but was affordable. swings and roundabouts over mortgage lifetime.
 
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